[Game] 76ers @ Kings - 1/2/14 - 7 p.m. PST

33 points (6 missed free-throws to0) 14 rebounds 2 ast 2 stl 1 blk 5 to (3 offensive fouls...) in 28 minutes is a wee bit spectacular. I would have loved it if the refs didn't take Cousins out of the game, but hey, my rose colored glasses are helping me focus in on Cousins tonight.
 
20 and 7 are great until you realize that he allows like 40+ ppg either directly from the player he is defending or from the help defense that allows other players to be free.

Mind you, the whole team sucks on defense; however, it makes it harder when you've got a guy like IT on the floor. He's a bench player and nothing more. A guy you put in to spark a fire and get the Kings back into the game or maintain a lead...

He was on MCW for most of the night, who had 7 pts on 3-11 and 5 assists. The only time I saw him get abused was when he got switched off on to Turner on a mismatch.
 
Oh please. Any PG that can average 20 and 7 while shooting as well has Thomas is a staring caliber player. His size and decision making might hold him back from being elite, but he is nothing less than a starter in this league.

The amount of negativity directed at him in this thread is hilarious when you consider that our "shooting" guards are a combined 1-11.

When your PG is only good on one side of the basketball court, then that is an incomplete player. You choose to focus on the 20 and 7. I choose to focus on the 113 points just dropped on our heads by a team that has half the talent. There is no point in 20 and 7 if you don't win and the other team has a field day.
 
IT is so good at driving and dishing because no one can keep up with him. But the main problem is he hits a shot then thanks he is MJ and starts jacking up too many shots.
He can be and should be a pass first PG and we would win some of these games.
He can get to the rim anytime, so why not do it?

No, just no. One of the reasons DMC can be effective is that people have to guard IT. If you make him solely a pass first PG, you completely take that away.

Blaming IT tonight is just delusional.
 
What could have been if we had used the 2012 pick for Drummond and wasn't Lillard available? The TRob pick really hurt, missing on all star talent. F-ing Magoofs
 
Oh please. Any PG that can average 20 and 7 while shooting as well has Thomas is a staring caliber player. His size and decision making might hold him back from being elite, but he is nothing less than a starter in this league.

The amount of negativity directed at him in this thread hilarious when you consider that our "shooting" guards are a combined 1-11.
Well, that's conflating issues. Our SG's were poor. They've been poor more often than not.

They are not however responsible for running the offense and getting the right guys the right looks at the right times, nor are they the guarding the point of attack frequently on defense and responsible for the initial breakdown many times, leaving everyone else scrambling. IT is killing us with how easily he gets rubbed off and left behind on screens as well as he's pretty much non-existent on rotations and help defense due to his size.

Some focus too much on who actually hits the shot against us. Have to look at what led to it and the body of work on any given possession. It's an issue for us that opposing PG's can get where they want, or make the passes to whom they want without the passing lanes or their vision to the target cut off/down. That has a direct effect on the tempo of the game. Little resistance from our end at the point of attack lets the opponent get into the rhythm they want and get the shots they want. Of course our poor rotations play a part and everyone has a responsibility there, but we're at a disadvantage just about every night when our PG is giving little resistance. That doesn't always show up in the box score though. It's where the picks are set(get into the ballhandler and the picks are set farther from the basket or are tougher to use as you push away from the spots the opponent wants), how freely you can come off them, how much passing lanes are effected, vision of the court and offense, taking a few dribbles left or right unobstructed to deliver a better pass in rhythm, targeting IT in P&R's or help actions as they know he's a liability on rotations/help defense, etc.. This all has an effect on the flow, the rhythm. How many points MCM had is only one aspect of the defense tonight.

In football it's not good if your CB's and SF's are below average and getting lost in coverage. It's a problem. However, if your defensive line is awful, doesn't put pressure on the QB and can't stop the run game to save their lives, that's a bigger issue than the CB's. The CB's would always be at a disadvantage if your defensive line isn't applying pressure and not stopping the run, it sets things in motion. It effects the rhythm of the opponent. It's part of the foundation of a good defense, having a solid D-Line. Without it, breakdowns happen and everyone scrambles. It's similar to this situation. If you repeatedly can't stop or effect the point of attack or rhythm of the attack, everyone will be at a disadvantage. Others deserve blame, but it also distracts from the main issue or one of the main issues.
 
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I watched the second half, and several times IT ended up on Turner. If I can find a video of it, I will gladly post it for you. By the way, each time he guarded him was a bucket or foul for Turner. Wroten too. Killed IT. I call it like I see it. I will tell you the game plan for each team the Kings face for the rest of the season with IT starting. Drive to the hoop and kick the ball out to someone, and don't worry, at least 3 people will be open at all times. I don't care if you're an IT fan. Look at my photo to the left. I'm calling for him to be benched right now because he isn't helping and he is thinking too much. Tough love is sometimes best for a player.

Turner is a 6'7 SF/SG. He is ALWAYS going to win a match up against IT or just about any other PG in this league.
 
Turner is a 6'7 SF/SG. He is ALWAYS going to win a match up against IT or just about any other PG in this league.

I don't deny that, but teams are far less likely to expose the opposing PG if they are 6'2 as compared to 5'8 or 5'9. It is just that everyone from every team penetrates on IT and does what they want. It's not supposed to be like that. I like IT, I really do, but his limitations are really being exposed right now.
 
Pretend you were NBA scout at this game taking notes on Kings:

They rely on Cousins for almost everything and he's one heck of a beast but there's some strategy to get him out of the game for stretches. Cousins can be partially neutralized when baited into cheap fouls, especially techs since leads league in that category. The Kings don't get back on D and can be run on as a result. The Kings PGs are terrible defenders and can be exploited at will. The Kings SG, rookie McLemore is extremely inconsistent andas a result Kings backcourt is nothing to fear. The Kings are not deep with a weak bench overall. Kings rely heavily on their so-called big three (Cuz, IT, Gay) to pull out victories. Almost every night all three have to be on or Kings in trouble. Kings are an undisciplined team on both offense and defense, inconsistent on both ends, they rarely trap, full court press or otherwise take advantage of their so-called great athleticism.
 
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Pretend you were NBA scout at this game taking notes on Kings:

They rely on Cousins for almost everything and he's one heck of a beast but there's some strategy to get him out of the game for stretches. Cousins can be partially neutralized when baited into cheap fouls, especially techs since leads league in that category. The Kings don't get back on D and can be run on as a result. The Kings PGs are terrible defenders and can be exploited at will. The Kings other backcourt mate, rookie McLemore is extremely inconsistent andas a result Kings backcourt is nothing to fear. The Kings are not deep with a weak bench overall. Kings rely heavily on their so-called big three (Cuz, IT, Gay) to pull out victories. Almost every night all three have to be on or Kings in trouble. Kings are an undisciplined team on both offense and defense, inconsistent on both ends, they rarely trap, full court press or otherwise take advantage of their so-called great athleticism.

Well said, thumbs up
 
Pretend you were NBA scout at this game taking notes on Kings:

They rely on Cousins for almost everything and he's one heck of a beast but there's some strategy to get him out of the game for stretches. Cousins can be partially neutralized when baited into cheap fouls, especially techs since leads league in that category. The Kings don't get back on D and can be run on as a result. The Kings PGs are terrible defenders and can be exploited at will. The Kings SG, rookie McLemore is extremely inconsistent andas a result Kings backcourt is nothing to fear. The Kings are not deep with a weak bench overall. Kings rely heavily on their so-called big three (Cuz, IT, Gay) to pull out victories. Almost every night all three have to be on or Kings in trouble. Kings are an undisciplined team on both offense and defense, inconsistent on both ends, they rarely trap, full court press or otherwise take advantage of their so-called great athleticism.
Can you be more negative????? And btw usually scouting reports are about what the team does well
 
Can you be more negative????? And btw usually scouting reports are about what the team does well

Listen to Coach Malone in his post-game presser. He just said, "we looked like the team playing a back to back not the other team who just played and won in Denver last night." Then he went on to dissect all the other "negatives" - no energy from the get go, too many turnovers, poor defense, etc, etc.
 
A good scouting report has everything -- What the team does well so they can stop it, and what the team does bad, so they can exploit it.
Yea and I bet its filled with sarcasm also... everyone needs to just calm down a bit and stop being so high on the good games and so low on the bad
 
I went to the game! The last time I saw a home game was in 1996 before moving out of state. Too bad the refs sucked, along with our defense and lack of team-ball. The crowd sure gave the booberries to Hawes. Oh well, still a blast to be around Kings fans and see the team.
 
I can tell that there are going to be a lot of people not liking IT's grade in the grades thread tonight!

Havn't looked to see if they are up yet but outside of a couple plays MCW didn't dominate him like he has been doing to most of the league lately. The guys numbers are on pace with Magic Johnson. The refs were highly distracting to me and since I couldn't grade tonight i was paying as close attention as i normally so but number two is that the only thing made me yell at my tv were his two transition threes at the start of the game. I am just not a fan of those when I think we can get him a better look if Cousins gets the ball first. He made one of them, got blocked on the other but hit another three in that same time frame on a kick out from Cousins. No other issues screamed at me for him.
 
Trust me when he gets more talent around him he will drive and dish. I don't blame him for not doing it now with outlaw thorton d will throwing up bricks over and over again
He does start with Cousins and Gay, right?
 
that substitution pattern in the first half was keith smart like. that was stupid Mike Malone that was stupid. maybe you will learn your lesson though. some in the past never did. Jimmer, thornton, outlaw, wiliams and acy that is bad very bad
 
The most salient point for me last night was that Cuz is the BIG difference maker. When he was in the game, everybody was better... IT (mostly) stayed out of hero mode, Jimmer was on fire, Gay was free to do his damage. When he left the game (thanks refs) nearly everyone's offense fell apart. The crappy offense with him on the bench led to a lot of fast break / in-the-paint plays for the sixers.
 
that substitution pattern in the first half was keith smart like. that was stupid Mike Malone that was stupid. maybe you will learn your lesson though. some in the past never did. Jimmer, thornton, outlaw, wiliams and acy that is bad very bad

Not disagreeing, but unfortunately his hand was forced a bit by the free-whistling ways of the refs...
 
Well, that's conflating issues. Our SG's were poor. They've been poor more often than not.

They are not however responsible for running the offense and getting the right guys the right looks at the right times, nor are they the guarding the point of attack frequently on defense and responsible for the initial breakdown many times, leaving everyone else scrambling. IT is killing us with how easily he gets rubbed off and left behind on screens as well as he's pretty much non-existent on rotations and help defense due to his size.

Some focus too much on who actually hits the shot against us. Have to look at what led to it and the body of work on any given possession. It's an issue for us that opposing PG's can get where they want, or make the passes to whom they want without the passing lanes or their vision to the target cut off/down. That has a direct effect on the tempo of the game. Little resistance from our end at the point of attack lets the opponent get into the rhythm they want and get the shots they want.
Of course our poor rotations play a part and everyone has a responsibility there, but we're at a disadvantage just about every night when our PG is giving little resistance. That doesn't always show up in the box score though. It's where the picks are set(get into the ballhandler and the picks are set farther from the basket or are tougher to use as you push away from the spots the opponent wants), how freely you can come off them, how much passing lanes are effected, vision of the court and offense, taking a few dribbles left or right unobstructed to deliver a better pass in rhythm, targeting IT in P&R's or help actions as they know he's a liability on rotations/help defense, etc.. This all has an effect on the flow, the rhythm. How many points MCM had is only one aspect of the defense tonight.

In football it's not good if your CB's and SF's are below average and getting lost in coverage. It's a problem. However, if your defensive line is awful, doesn't put pressure on the QB and can't stop the run game to save their lives, that's a bigger issue than the CB's. The CB's would always be at a disadvantage if your defensive line isn't applying pressure and not stopping the run, it sets things in motion. It effects the rhythm of the opponent. It's part of the foundation of a good defense, having a solid D-Line. Without it, breakdowns happen and everyone scrambles. It's similar to this situation. If you repeatedly can't stop or effect the point of attack or rhythm of the attack, everyone will be at a disadvantage. Others deserve blame, but it also distracts from the main issue or one of the main issues.

but... but... but most PG's in the nba are bad defenders!!!!!

;)
 
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