[Game] 29/82: Kings vs. Lakers 21 December 2024 3 pm PT/6 pm ET

[iowamcnabb]

I mean it’s self inflicted. Foul on a turn around fade away jumper with 2 seconds left. Cant get the rebound on 2 missed free throws and we missed several 3s to close the gap.

I don’t feel as bad about this one as others, enough other things to think about.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

DDR really hasn’t been himself since that Nuggets fumble.

Back injuries, even smaller ones, tend to really throw off your rhythm. Hasn't been the same since then

 

[SacTownKid]

They can’t seem to decide whether they want to be a high post Princeton offense team or an iso/pick-and-roll and as a result they are currently playing like neither.

And they hunt those 3's. Sorry, Huerter or Monk taking a shot over DDR or Fox in crunch time makes no sense even if it's wide open. That's on Fox and DeRozan though.

 

[NewArena]

Some of the shot selection tonight was beyond brutal. And length is definitely a big deal - seeing Lyles and Jones miss point blank shots at the rim, looking like little guys … that hurt. There was a possession in the 3rd quarter where they had like 4 chances to score and came away with nothing.

 

[TaxMan]

Hmmm….didn’t watch the game. Checked the score a couple times, but didn’t care to watch the game at this point.

I tell you, maybe it’s a midlife crisis on my part, but fandom changes as you age. I don’t feel the need to sit through this pain to try to justify my fandom. Life is good folks, try to enjoy Christmas and/or whatever other holiday that brings you joy.

 

[sackings]

Tired of these ISO plays late in the clutch. It’s all 1on1 plays and it’s so predictable. Move the ball to get open shots! It’s so frustrating.

 

[SacTownKid]

Back injuries, even smaller ones, tend to really throw off your rhythm. Hasn't been the same since then

Yeah, I mean, dudes 35. He shouldn't have to carry but if anyone thinks he can for a whole season, good luck. Again, averages win out. Age, shots, defense. It's all the same.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Back injuries, even smaller ones, tend to really throw off your rhythm. Hasn't been the same since then

Another reason to put him on the second unit for a bit and move Keegan to the 3 ... if we can get a starting 4.

 

[NewArena]

They always seem to take out a key player for us in the 3rd quarter with phantom fouls. Fox the other night and tonight was Keegan lol gotta love it

 

[NewArena]

As weird as this team is, I’m sure they’ll beat the Lakers in LA on the 28th lol won’t matter much but yea. Oh well.

 

[The_Jamal]

I mean it’s self inflicted. Foul on a turn around fade away jumper with 2 seconds left. Cant get the rebound on 2 missed free throws and we missed several 3s to close the gap.

I don’t feel as bad about this one as others, enough other things to think about.

Been the story of the season. I can't help but think "The Kings played really good basketball for 40 minutes tonight...and played like a JV high school team the other 8". They consistently aren't making the plays to secure wins with clean basketball.

I don't know. I find this season wholly unenjoyable so far. This was supposed to be the year of a big pay-off from us "learning" how to win and be a successful franchise over the last 2 years. And we've just gone backwards.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Yeah, I mean, dudes 35. He shouldn't have to carry but if anyone thinks he can for a whole season, good luck. Again, averages win out. Age, shots, defense. It's all the same.

I suspected he came back too soon, because back injuries never heal that fast. Who knows though, they won't say it

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I said it before and I'll keep saying it. Extending Brown was an unnecessary move. This season should have been a prove it year, in the last season of the initial contract he agreed to

 

[Tetsujin]

I'm totally willing to concede that I may just be being browbeaten into the media narrative. The other night when Fox picked up his fifth foul in a tie game I decided I should just go get dinner.

When I got home the whole Kings universe was apoplectic and then I've seen 48 hours of Fox is gone commentary. He's probably moved into top 3 Sac Kings status for me so this is all very hard to process. And tbh there's a lot of folks I follow elsewhere that I am tuning out/muting but I can't exactly do that here.

I don't know. I'd like to see us fix this with a couple rotation moves it is feeling like that may not be enough.

The key is to stay off the internet lol

media guys get way more engagement off of panic posts and wild trade ideas than anything else so it just all compounds on itself at once haha

 

[SacTownKid]

I said it before and I'll keep saying it. Extending Brown was an unnecessary move. This season should have been a prove it year, in the last season of the initial contract he agreed to

Maybe, but Brown rolls the ball out and lets his stars go to work. At some point, it's on them, rotations and overthinking aside. This was another game where it almost was riding on Huerter hitting a big 3 and as soon as he missed Brown was pissed. I'm sure he also saw freaking D'lo guarding DDR in the post. That's an auto bucket if you aren't dumb, lol.

 

[The_Jamal]

I said it before and I'll keep saying it. Extending Brown was an unnecessary move. This season should have been a prove it year, in the last season of the initial contract he agreed to

He already ****ing proved it when he won coach of the year and lead the Kings to 2 of their most successful seasons in franchise history.

Show me one example of a team in Brown's circumstance where they let him go into a season with a lame-duck contract. I'll wait.

Also, who cares? It's vivek's money, and coach salaries aren't tied up with the salary cap. I'd rather him take of a coach who's been successful with our franchise so it shows the Kings can be a competent organization. Rather than **** around with the ONLY successful coach this team has seen since Rick Adelman. This take is so unbelievably short-sighted.

 

[NewArena]

Feels like the teams we had with John Salmons dribbling around and coming up with nothing. So gross how excited many of us were before the season smh i at least thought we could be a 6th seed

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Maybe, but Brown rolls the ball out and lets his stars go to work. At some point, it's on them, rotations and overthinking aside. This was another game where it almost was riding on Huerter hitting a big 3 and as soon as he missed Brown was pissed. I'm sure he also saw freaking D'lo guarding DDR in the post. That's an auto bucket if you aren't dumb, lol.

Just never made sense to me, going into a pivotal season for the franchise

 

[pdxKingsFan]

The key is to stay off the internet lol

media guys get way more engagement off of panic posts and wild trade ideas than anything else so it just all compounds on itself at once haha

I work in academia and didn't take 3 weeks vacation... staying off the internet right now is hard.

 

[NewArena]

I’m sure certain members can’t wait to magically appear in this thread lol enjoy yourselves! At least one of us is having fun.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

y’know who’ll help with hustle board situations? Devin Carter.

6’3 combo guard ain’t helping crap man get real

 

[iowamcnabb]

I said it before and I'll keep saying it. Extending Brown was an unnecessary move. This season should have been a prove it year, in the last season of the initial contract he agreed to

And then we would be blaming the start on more instability from the franchise. And maybe Deebo doesn’t sign because the organization doesn’t commit.

Not extending of him would be of no help to this season or future seasons. If Vivek wants him gone, he will gone.

 

[Tetsujin]

6’3 combo guard ain’t helping crap man get real

he was one of the best rebounders in college last season. Get real

 

[SacTownKid]

Just never made sense to me, going into a pivotal season for the franchise

I don't disagree, but I'm never crying for an owner having to banish a coach, lol. At least you can. Signing players back and getting the shaft hurts far worse. If Brown ain't the dude, impress us with your wealth Vivek. haha.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

We don't have to whack Coach Brown but it might be time to shake up the seating chart with the assistants.

 

[SLAB]

Ugh gross. Blow it up. Onto the next iteration of this team. lol go Kings

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

And then we would be blaming the start on more instability from the franchise. And maybe Deebo doesn’t sign because the organization doesn’t commit.

Not extending of him would be of no help to this season or future seasons. If Vivek wants him gone, he will gone.

If that's true, then great. But I suspect that it would tend to influence decisions going forward......and it's his money, not ours. So feel free to throw it around

 

[NewArena]

The only way to turn anything around is to just put this team on the road for the rest of the season. Now we have to take on Haliburton tomorrow lol can’t wait for those takes

 

[SacTownKid]

6’3 combo guard ain’t helping crap man get real

At some point it's a talent/need issue. The Kings need talent/defense and the sad fact is the only spot that can be attained is SG. Every other spot is taken.

 

[Kingz19]

Well, the only cards Brown on his own has left to play outside of waiting for this team to play better

These aren’t my preferences but’s it’s either swapping Monk for Keon in the starting lineup, or moving DeMar to the bench.

Moving Keon to the starting lineup would be a different look that could possibly yield good results. He’s also been our most consistent catch and shoot three point shooter as well as well as a reliable defender.

To be clear, I don’t think DeRozan deserves to be moved to the bench. He’s mostly been as advertised but Kings are a mess and that idea is purely in search of a fluidity(and offensive bench boost) that eludes the Kings.

I have no idea who would be an ideal fit in the starting lineup in that scenario. McBuckets doesn’t seem like a serious idea and would likely be viewed as a slap in the face. Huerter certainly hasn’t earned his way back in the starting lineup.

But I’m pretty sure Brown finally deciding to let Monk start was what he considered his break glass button. He is probably right.

The massive offensive underperformance from Keegan and Huerter and the overall team 3 pt shooting completely threw a wrench into the whole concept of what this team is supposed to be…and it’s not getting better…it’s also no longer early to have any hope that it will get meaningfully better.

I don’t see any answers in house.

Monte needs to figure something out.

Dude has been mostly watching strikes float across the plate since his active 2022 offseason.

I’ve slowly lost faith that he has any more ideas left… or even recognizes how fatal the flaws on this team are since his efforts to address them the last two years couldn’t even be described as half hearted.

I’m down on this team.