2 things the Kings should seriously consider
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The best thing we could do IMO is find a way to trade up to the first pick in the draft and then take LaMarcus Aldridge. Gives us a PF/C who is athletic, solid on D, can take it to the post or hit an elbow jumper, high BB IQ. He does all of this at Texas, even with guards who are more interested in shooting jumpers instead of feeding him like they should. He has the potential to be a Garnett/Webber. Otherwise it is just too hard these days to acquire a young big without major questions about them, except through the top of the draft. There are other bigs lower down in the draft we could look at, but why not take a swing for the park and possibly set up a new Kings dynasty.
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I agree, but assuming we'd get back a defensive big or 1 or 2 players, SAR should mostly be used off the bench then. That won't happen with Skinner here, who I think should start being started with the SAR/Brad situations. If it's Cato/Battie/Etan/Pryzbilla, probably happens (starts) with most of them.
Either way I'd be fine with SAR in the line-up once he gets those wires out, or coming off the bench.
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Love to get James + thought about that as soon as Embry took over as Gm there + said he was willing to ship out anyone who didn't want to be there (James has grumbled some). Be a nice Bobby replacement, and if we also got that shotblocker up front, we could almost be complete.
Problems are that he is actually not that young (30 I think) -- not ahuge factor, but might slow down in a couple of years. And he is a FA this year. Would hate to trade for him and then lose him. Much might depend on whetehr he would rather start for a bad team or be the 6th man for a good one (we would obviously have to prove we'd make the moves to get good).
Problems are that he is actually not that young (30 I think) -- not ahuge factor, but might slow down in a couple of years. And he is a FA this year. Would hate to trade for him and then lose him. Much might depend on whetehr he would rather start for a bad team or be the 6th man for a good one (we would obviously have to prove we'd make the moves to get good).
Kings need a great/good defender at PF. Add that to Miller, Artest, Bonzi, and Bibby, and you have a scary team.
Rasheed Wallace (aside from the Artest/Sheed/Bonzi together angle) would be just absolutely perfect for this team. PJ Brown could work. I'm sure there are other guys, but those two come to mind as good fits.
Rasheed Wallace (aside from the Artest/Sheed/Bonzi together angle) would be just absolutely perfect for this team. PJ Brown could work. I'm sure there are other guys, but those two come to mind as good fits.
Same conclusion many of us have been coming too, but unfortunately the how/who question becomes tricky.
--Wallace is obviously unattainable (and doesn't rebound, which would be a significant problem). ONly guy oin that team we might be able to get would be Darko, who is obviously a gigantic wildcard.
--PJ is really old and would be a very short term solution if he was one at all. If SAR were here, might not even start despite our need. And he has also been said to be mysteriously unattainable as the Hornets are loading up trying to make a playoff push here.
--Evans is out there. Rugged, Rebounds. But not a great defender or the shotblocker we need.
--There were rumors Eddie Griffin might be available. I was interested in the offseason, now I'm not sure do you add his personality to a Bonzi/Artest core? And is he a great defender or just a numbers guy? Interesting though.
--Fortson's a thug, but too much so, and him + Bonzi and Artest = asking for it. Again woould have a hard time starting over SAR unless that was the trade. A bench guy now.
--Boozer's probably available if he ever returns to basketball. Combines the rebounding of Kenny with the post play of SAR, but plays no defnese, has an atitude, and a huge contract. Not to mention the injuries.
--Everybody wants Nene, but that's a move for next year even if you can get him (whihc appears difficult). And Nene is more post scorer than he is great defender/rebounder.
--Swift might be available again now, but only becuiase he's been a major disappointment in Houston. Blocks shots, but really not a very strurdy defender or rebounder, and lacks a brain stem.
--Etan Thomas might be available, but he's a bencher unless you trade SAR for him. + no offense.
--Gadzuric has been mentioend and I like him, but again likely a bencher, and a center more than PF. Also no offense (which I think is ok, but hard to sell Rick on).
--Chandler has been my choice -- tall, young, full of potential. We'd be scary if we had him I think. But he has a huge contract. Not much offense (which I'm ok with). And I have no idea if he is actually available for a team as short as the Bulls are without him.
--Then of course there's always the KG pipedream. He and McHale were supposed to have some big argument last week, so strike while the iron is hot!
--Wallace is obviously unattainable (and doesn't rebound, which would be a significant problem). ONly guy oin that team we might be able to get would be Darko, who is obviously a gigantic wildcard.
--PJ is really old and would be a very short term solution if he was one at all. If SAR were here, might not even start despite our need. And he has also been said to be mysteriously unattainable as the Hornets are loading up trying to make a playoff push here.
--Evans is out there. Rugged, Rebounds. But not a great defender or the shotblocker we need.
--There were rumors Eddie Griffin might be available. I was interested in the offseason, now I'm not sure do you add his personality to a Bonzi/Artest core? And is he a great defender or just a numbers guy? Interesting though.
--Fortson's a thug, but too much so, and him + Bonzi and Artest = asking for it. Again woould have a hard time starting over SAR unless that was the trade. A bench guy now.
--Boozer's probably available if he ever returns to basketball. Combines the rebounding of Kenny with the post play of SAR, but plays no defnese, has an atitude, and a huge contract. Not to mention the injuries.
--Everybody wants Nene, but that's a move for next year even if you can get him (whihc appears difficult). And Nene is more post scorer than he is great defender/rebounder.
--Swift might be available again now, but only becuiase he's been a major disappointment in Houston. Blocks shots, but really not a very strurdy defender or rebounder, and lacks a brain stem.
--Etan Thomas might be available, but he's a bencher unless you trade SAR for him. + no offense.
--Gadzuric has been mentioend and I like him, but again likely a bencher, and a center more than PF. Also no offense (which I think is ok, but hard to sell Rick on).
--Chandler has been my choice -- tall, young, full of potential. We'd be scary if we had him I think. But he has a huge contract. Not much offense (which I'm ok with). And I have no idea if he is actually available for a team as short as the Bulls are without him.
--Then of course there's always the KG pipedream.
He and McHale were supposed to have some big argument last week, so strike while the iron is hot!
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Uh, Bonzi and Sheed back together again?! Best leave that one alone.
I keep thinking how good Etan would be here. He actually looks like he could develop a semi-reliable jumper. He is also one of the most physical players in the league. He won't lead the league in blocked shots but he affects way more shots than he blocks, and he likes to stay near the basket and doesn't gamble on blocks too often.
Tyson would be awesome, but that contract makes it hard to figure out a way to get him here, and whether he is worth the gamble to begin with.
Another guy we don't mention is Greg Ostertag. I think he and Brad could have been a good combo. He is another guy that stays home and plays goalie instead of going for the glory of the dynamic block. Of course, he wouldn't see much time under Rick Adelman. Been there, didn't agree with it, and don't want to re-live it.
I keep thinking how good Etan would be here. He actually looks like he could develop a semi-reliable jumper. He is also one of the most physical players in the league. He won't lead the league in blocked shots but he affects way more shots than he blocks, and he likes to stay near the basket and doesn't gamble on blocks too often.
Tyson would be awesome, but that contract makes it hard to figure out a way to get him here, and whether he is worth the gamble to begin with.
Another guy we don't mention is Greg Ostertag. I think he and Brad could have been a good combo. He is another guy that stays home and plays goalie instead of going for the glory of the dynamic block. Of course, he wouldn't see much time under Rick Adelman. Been there, didn't agree with it, and don't want to re-live it.
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I have a hard time seeing Cato or Battie starting and making an impact for us. Would either guy really start over SAR? Thomas? Even Skinner would be right there.
I like Pryz, but he's a center. So then you would have to move Brad to PF for a very slow frontline, or trade Brad for Pryz...at which pont I am no longer such a big fan of the deal. Would be a beautiful backup to Brad though, although more of a combo 4/5 might be the way we'd go. Maybe.
I like Pryz, but he's a center. So then you would have to move Brad to PF for a very slow frontline, or trade Brad for Pryz...at which pont I am no longer such a big fan of the deal. Would be a beautiful backup to Brad though, although more of a combo 4/5 might be the way we'd go. Maybe.
Bricklayer said:
Same conclusion many of us have been coming too, but unfortunately the how/who question becomes tricky.
--Wallace is obviously unattainable (and doesn't rebound, which would be a significant problem). ONly guy oin that team we might be able to get would be Darko, who is obviously a gigantic wildcard.
--PJ is really old and would be a very short term solution if he was one at all. If SAR were here, might not even start despite our need. And he has also been said to be mysteriously unattainable as the Hornets are loading up trying to make a playoff push here.
--Evans is out there. Rugged, Rebounds. But not a great defender or the shotblocker we need.
--There were rumors Eddie Griffin might be available. I was interested in the offseason, now I'm not sure do you add his personality to a Bonzi/Artest core? And is he a great defender or just a numbers guy? Interesting though.
--Fortson's a thug, but too much so, and him + Bonzi and Artest = asking for it. Again woould have a hard time starting over SAR unless that was the trade. A bench guy now.
--Boozer's probably available if he ever returns to basketball. Combines the rebounding of Kenny with the post play of SAR, but plays no defnese, has an atitude, and a huge contract. Not to mention the injuries.
--Everybody wants Nene, but that's a move for next year even if you can get him (whihc appears difficult). And Nene is more post scorer than he is great defender/rebounder.
--Swift might be available again now, but only becuiase he's been a major disappointment in Houston. Blocks shots, but really not a very strurdy defender or rebounder, and lacks a brain stem.
--Etan Thomas might be available, but he's a bencher unless you trade SAR for him. + no offense.
--Gadzuric has been mentioend and I like him, but again likely a bencher, and a center more than PF. Also no offense (which I think is ok, but hard to sell Rick on).
--Chandler has been my choice -- tall, young, full of potential. We'd be scary if we had him I think. But he has a huge contract. Not much offense (which I'm ok with). And I have no idea if he is actually available for a team as short as the Bulls are without him.
--Then of course there's always the KG pipedream. He and McHale were supposed to have some big argument last week, so strike while the iron is hot!
--Wallace is obviously unattainable (and doesn't rebound, which would be a significant problem). ONly guy oin that team we might be able to get would be Darko, who is obviously a gigantic wildcard.
--PJ is really old and would be a very short term solution if he was one at all. If SAR were here, might not even start despite our need. And he has also been said to be mysteriously unattainable as the Hornets are loading up trying to make a playoff push here.
--Evans is out there. Rugged, Rebounds. But not a great defender or the shotblocker we need.
--There were rumors Eddie Griffin might be available. I was interested in the offseason, now I'm not sure do you add his personality to a Bonzi/Artest core? And is he a great defender or just a numbers guy? Interesting though.
--Fortson's a thug, but too much so, and him + Bonzi and Artest = asking for it. Again woould have a hard time starting over SAR unless that was the trade. A bench guy now.
--Boozer's probably available if he ever returns to basketball. Combines the rebounding of Kenny with the post play of SAR, but plays no defnese, has an atitude, and a huge contract. Not to mention the injuries.
--Everybody wants Nene, but that's a move for next year even if you can get him (whihc appears difficult). And Nene is more post scorer than he is great defender/rebounder.
--Swift might be available again now, but only becuiase he's been a major disappointment in Houston. Blocks shots, but really not a very strurdy defender or rebounder, and lacks a brain stem.
--Etan Thomas might be available, but he's a bencher unless you trade SAR for him. + no offense.
--Gadzuric has been mentioend and I like him, but again likely a bencher, and a center more than PF. Also no offense (which I think is ok, but hard to sell Rick on).
--Chandler has been my choice -- tall, young, full of potential. We'd be scary if we had him I think. But he has a huge contract. Not much offense (which I'm ok with). And I have no idea if he is actually available for a team as short as the Bulls are without him.
--Then of course there's always the KG pipedream.
He and McHale were supposed to have some big argument last week, so strike while the iron is hot!
) I'm starting to think you should look in the draft for the big man. Everyone else that is available just won't make enough of a difference.I do think Darko could eventually be a great fit in Sac, but he's not that rugged type of PF that you guys need right now...
actually darko would be perfect....but im not sure sac has what detroit would want...i dont think detroit is gonna trade him unless someone is willing to vastly overpay....they might work out some sort of deal for arroyo/darko that includes sacs first rounder and garcia, but i just dont see the additional pieces that detroit would consider taking....but darko would be nirvana...
SoupIsGood said:
Yikes, unless you guys get Tyson or Garnett ( ) I'm starting to think you should look in the draft for the big man. Everyone else that is available just won't make enough of a difference.
I do think Darko could eventually be a great fit in Sac, but he's not that rugged type of PF that you guys need right now...
) I'm starting to think you should look in the draft for the big man. Everyone else that is available just won't make enough of a difference.I do think Darko could eventually be a great fit in Sac, but he's not that rugged type of PF that you guys need right now...
detroit could use a backup pg better than arroyo, possibly a good young swingman(garcia), draft picks and capspace as they have to pay some big money in the upcoming years....
unfortunately the kings dont have a solid backup pg, their draft picks dont appear to be very good, and they have no real expiring contracts of note...so outside of garcia, not alot to offer...
just a tough match...have to involve a 3rd team...but most teams would probably love to have darko for themselves.....so....
unfortunately the kings dont have a solid backup pg, their draft picks dont appear to be very good, and they have no real expiring contracts of note...so outside of garcia, not alot to offer...
just a tough match...have to involve a 3rd team...but most teams would probably love to have darko for themselves.....so....