12/15 - GMs start to look

[Kings113]

Sun-Sentinel - The NBA trading deadline is not until Feb. 23, but the de facto start to the trade period is fast approaching.

By NBA rule, players signed as free agents in the offseason cannot be dealt until Dec. 15 or three months after signing, whichever comes later.

That makes Thursday the first day the bulk of offseason signees can be moved. Those players who might be available in deals are Nuggets guard Earl Watson, Knicks center Jerome James, Bucks forward Dan Gadzuric, Nets forward Scott Padgett, Bulls forward Malik Allen, Wizards center Calvin Booth and Celtics forward Brian Scalabrine.

More significant than the names is the climate the day's onset creates, with general managers aware that just about every player can be put into play.

"There's going to be a lot of movement on the 15th," Knicks coach Larry Brown predicted.

Others are not as certain.

"It definitely loosens up," Nets General Manager Ed Stefanski said. "How much, for us, will be the interesting question."

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38268/20051211/gms_look_to_the_15th_to_begin_trading_players/

 

[AriesMar27]

i dont want any of those players.... okay maybe watson.....

 

[SacTownKid]

Bring me a Gadzuric! Rebounder/shotblocker. Of course he will see 0 playing time and has a fat deal so I doubt it.

 

[SoupIsGood]

Watson and Gadzuric are the guys to get, I wonder who will win them.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Can we somehow turn Peja into both? Is that the best we could do?

 

[Kajun]

Gadzuric should be the most interesting of that list (Watson being the other one). His rebound-rate (18.2) and reb/40min (12.8) stats are excellent; should give a much needed rebounding boost. Although his bpg is not good this year, he is a pretty decent shotblocker (2.38 blocks per 40 min last year).

Gadzuric does have a "fat deal", earning $4,750,000 this year (source: Hoopshype).

However:

According to RealGM, his trade value is affected by the Base Year Compensation rule. Excerpt from Larry Coon's salary cap FAQ (question 73):

Base year compensation (BYC) prevents another salary cap loophole. Without BYC, a team over the salary cap that wants to trade a player, but can't because of the Traded Player exception (which says teams can't take back more than 125% of the salary they trade away), could just sign the player to a new contract that fits within the desired range, then do the trade. BYC says "if you re-sign a player and give him a big raise, then for a period of time his trade value will be lower than his actual salary."
BYC defines the salary that's used to compare players for compliance under the Traded Player exception (see question number 68 for more information about the Traded Player exception). Usually the salary used for comparison is the player's actual salary. But under either of the following circumstances, a different salary is used when comparing salaries for trading purposes:

• The team is over the salary cap, used the Larry Bird or Early Bird exception to re-sign the player, and the player received a raise greater than 20% (unless it's the minimum salary).
• The team is over the salary cap, it extended the player's rookie scale contract, and the player received a raise greater than 20%.

If either of the above apply, then the player is considered a base year player. A player remains a base year player for six months, or until June 30, whichever comes later. When trading a base year player, the salary used for comparison is the player's previous salary, or 50% of the first-year salary in his new contract, whichever is greater.

Now, Gadzuric's salary last year was a mere $695,000.

So his trade value, based on BYC, is

Max ($695,000, 50%*$4,750,000) = $2,375,000.

For some reason RealGM uses a different value (in the neighbourhood though). I have no clue as to how they determine his trade value.


Now...why did I even bother to look this all up? Well, to look at trade possibilites for Milwaukee. There's a problem here I think -- the trade value might actually limit the Bucks's trading possibilities (not every team will want to ship their rookies for that salary, and Bucks will not be interested in vets playing for that salary I think). I don't think there are many players around that value which have the Bucks' interest. Gadzuric might be packaged, but that probably means he will have to come with an unwanted player with a big contract (Joe Smith? Calvin Booth?).

The Kings could potentially ship, say, Garcia and Hart for Gadzuric and Ilyasova (cheapest player on the Bucks roster). For some reason RealGM does not accept that trade, and I'm not sure why.

 

[Kings113]

i dont want any of those players.... okay maybe watson.....

They are the main suspects... who knows who else could be involved.

BTW, Booth is with the Wiz now.

 

[kingsboi]

Watson Is The Only One I Care For To Get Named In That List....Everyone Else No Thank You =)