2013 NBA Draft thread.

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He had Thornton with him and it didn't mesh all that well.

Here's the facts: Nobody outside of Sacramento fanbase thinks Tyreke can play PG for long periods. We've seen the evidence on the court. He doesn't see the floor, he makes bad decisions on the break, and he doesn't get into the offense quickly. The Point Guard game is NOT his game and never was. The only reason he was at PG was because the organization needed a star and the best way to spotlight Tyreke was to let him have the ball all the time. The team tanked hard and let him do what he wanted. It worked and he got RoY, but it was not a winning strategy. There has been a bevy of PGs from Reke's draft and after that have shown more at the PG position than he has. The only excuse for thinking Tyreke can play PG at this point in time is plain old stupidity or that you're aiming to replicate that tank from his rookie year.

The only answer is that someone is getting moved. Maybe Tyreke or maybe even Mclemore. The only worry is that the team isn't looking for a starting PG yet and that has been a major hole on the team, and PG has become an increasingly important position in the NBA.
His game most similar to Dwyane Wade, who has done just fine when surrounded by talent and shooters. My best guess is we move forward with an IT/Reke/Mac guard rotation next year, with Reke playing the drive-and-kick role on some sets, running the P&P with Mac and the P&R with Cuz; McLemore will get some ballhandling duties looking for screens to get his shot off; and IT will play the more traditional PG-facilitator role.

Just because Tyreke isn't Steve Nash doesn't mean that playing him at PG or running him out in two-guard scenarios wouldn't work. It really comes down to what system Malone is envisioning here (which might involve trading Tyreke, but it's kind of absurd to dismiss rainmaker's point like that- which is about seeing how Tyreke will do with a true shooter on the floor)
 
Well...Boston got Dallas' pick for 2 2nd round picks....that is something I would have liked to see...though I don't like who Boston is getting there.

I wonder who we are targeting now...and if the people we like are projected to go further in 1st round or perhaps falling to us in the 2nd.

I'd love for someone like Withey to fall to us in the 2nd...but I don't think he lasts that long.

I'm just curious to see if we'll see any other moves beyond taking the 36th pick
 

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He had Thornton with him and it didn't mesh all that well.

Here's the facts: Nobody outside of Sacramento fanbase thinks Tyreke can play PG for long periods. We've seen the evidence on the court. He doesn't see the floor, he makes bad decisions on the break, and he doesn't get into the offense quickly. The Point Guard game is NOT his game and never was. The only reason he was at PG was because the organization needed a star and the best way to spotlight Tyreke was to let him have the ball all the time. The team tanked hard and let him do what he wanted. It worked and he got RoY, but it was not a winning strategy. There has been a bevy of PGs from Reke's draft and after that have shown more at the PG position than he has. The only excuse for thinking Tyreke can play PG at this point in time is plain old stupidity or that you're aiming to replicate that tank from his rookie year.

The only answer is that someone is getting moved. Maybe Tyreke or maybe even Mclemore. The only worry is that the team isn't looking for a starting PG yet and that has been a major hole on the team, and PG has become an increasingly important position in the NBA.
I couldn't disagree more. Tyreke may not be a natural PG, but that doesn't mean someone has to be traded. What if the plan is to build a big, physical, defensively dominant team that bullies team in the halfcourt to get their points ala San Antonio? So you start with a huge and talented post presence in Cousins and you add a slashing matchup nightmare at one guard position and a deadeye shooter at the other. That's already a strong recipe for success I think in the half-court set. Tyreke showed tons of potential as a defensive stopper the one season he played PG. Yes he often played too much 1-on-1. Yes he showed average court vision and is often too aggresive on the fast break. But that doesn't discount his defensive potential at PG. Adding a true SG next to him who can hold his own on defense and also light it up on offense is going to force the other team to choose the lesser of two evils. And McLemore's passive personality is a refreshing change from the high usage me-first guards we've tried to pair with Tyreke so far.

I think a good coach could structure a strong defensive gameplan and a strong offensive gameplan around that pairing. McLemore isn't nearly the defensive presence that Oladipo or Noel would have been, but he's the only guy in the draft this year who has potential to be really good on both sides of the ball. And that's not nothing. The trade-off is that it's going to take some work to get him there, but I actually have faith in our coaching staff for a change. So I'm excited about his potential.
 
The Evans-Thornton-Udrih rotation worked pretty well. No reasons why Evans-McLemore-Thomas shouldn't work. You can have Evans and McLemore, Evans and IT, IT and McLemore. I believe they mesh pretty well. I'm excited about this pick!
 
Well...Boston got Dallas' pick for 2 2nd round picks....that is something I would have liked to see...though I don't like who Boston is getting there.

I wonder who we are targeting now...and if the people we like are projected to go further in 1st round or perhaps falling to us in the 2nd.

I'd love for someone like Withey to fall to us in the 2nd...but I don't think he lasts that long.

I'm just curious to see if we'll see any other moves beyond taking the 36th pick
Don't think we can trade any 2nd round picks, they are all spoken for on past trades.
 
Other than the MJ/Ron Harper Bulls, can anyone name a competitive team that plays without a PG?
Depends how you define PG. If you're in the crowd who thinks it's only a Nash type, well you'll be hard pressed to find a champion with that kind of pure PG.

If you realize the definition of PG is constantly changing, then it's all kinds from Fisher/Chalmers/Hinrich to Rose/Westbrook/Parker.
 
you can't help but like the pick. the Pollard thing makes me nervous. Now it will be interesting to see where Dennis Schroeder ends up.. I loved a lot of this kids natural abilities, and he was really in the discussion before his bad workouts
 
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