Mullin offered job as consultant

[The Hammer]

Pot calling the kettle black!

Give me someone who at least has the concept of knowing how to build a championship contender. Someone who has either built one or has played on one so they know what it takes. They won't be doing too much of the heavy lifting, they will just be in an advisory role. So yes someone like Steve Kerr has more credibility that Chris Mullin who has NEVER played for a title contender and the one team he did run was a mitigated disaster.

Even Chris Wallace (not a big fan) would be more appropriate in this role. At least he built a team in Memphis that is a contender and/or has been in the last couple of years. Morway was part of the front office that put together the Indiana Pacers. Kevin Pritchard has put together some nice teams in Portland prior to injuries and is part of the front office in Indiana these days.

That is just 4 names off the top of my head that instantly have more credibility than Mullin who aside from being a very good player and a hall of famer has never won anything in his career either as a player or a front office man. Take a look at his history as a front office man with the warriors. Its a **** up after **** up and never got those teams to be anything more than run and gun show ponies.

So before you go off and start dribbling from your mouth questioning other people's intelligence how about you enlighten us with yours and tell us why is Chris Mullin such a good addition to the Sacramento Kings.

You make assumptions left and right. 3/4 of your list are gm types. Questionable that they'd agree to the role offered, but in ypur tidy mind, they woul have and we should have signed them.

My whole point is that it is ridiculous to judge this move. It makes no sense to. To do so, you have to assume like 20 things, and when you do so, you really just appear to be in love with sounding like the guy who knows better.

I am interested in the possibilities of Mullin joining the team.

Also, the whole "championship experience" argument is ridiculous. How much championship experience did they have when the won their first championship???

 

[bajaden]

Nothing has happened! No trades have been made and no one has been drafted. We have a rumor that Chris Mullin may or may not be hired as a consultant. Not GM! Not president of operations! Not director of player personnel. A consultant!!!!!!! Maybe!!!!! So lets all have a heart attack. Let the black clouds of doom arrive. What the hell is wrong with you people???? Do you go to bed at night thinking you won't wake up in the morning? My god, can we wait till someone actually does something before decide the world is ending? Is the sun shining too brightly for you? Is the joy of the moment too painful to bear. Sorry, I can't take a bunch of whinners any longer. I'm off to bed. And I plan on waking up in the morning. Hopefully!

 

[The Hammer]

Nothing has happened! No trades have been made and no one has been drafted. We have a rumor that Chris Mullin may or may not be hired as a consultant. Not GM! Not president of operations! Not director of player personnel. A consultant!!!!!!! Maybe!!!!! So lets all have a heart attack. Let the black clouds of doom arrive. What the hell is wrong with you people???? Do you go to bed at night thinking you won't wake up in the morning? My god, can we wait till someone actually does something before decide the world is ending? Is the sun shining too brightly for you? Is the joy of the moment too painful to bear. Sorry, I can't take a bunch of whinners any longer. I'm off to bed. And I plan on waking up in the morning. Hopefully!

Exactly.

 

[Kingster]

I just have a question about Mullin: What exactly would he bring to the table?

It sounds as if there are going to be others added to the braintrust, either as a consultant or president of operations. After all is said and done with this reorganization, I'm hoping we can get some interviews from Vivek and/or DA to define what the roles will be. For example, who in this upcoming draft gets the final say?

 

[Letsgokings13]

Sky falling already guys? Jeez, this is a RUMOR (although probably true) about a CONSULTANT position. CONSULTANT. we just got 2 of the most sought after names this off season and some of you are gonna complain like this?

 

[pshn80]

In anticipation of this there is exultation at the Sacramento branch of the St. John's University Alumni Association.

 

[King Baller]

Well Mitch Richmond is in the ownership group and has ties to Mullin. Mullin is a NY guy and so is Malone. all three along with D'Alessandro have ties to the GSW. So does CWebb

Hey Vivek has ties to the GSW!!! Wow it is a small world this NBA. I am just so happy the Kings are here and bringing in new blood.

I would not be surprised if the team is left pretty much intact through camp and the start of the season. I would like to see a veteran SF added and Evans inked to a deal. They can surprise me with the draft

KB

 

[Mass]

I really don't understand some of you guys. Vivek just saved the Kings. He has made two moves, hiring Malone and D'Alessandro, and it looks to me everyone is pretty happy about that. I don't think he has made any bad move so far. Give this guy a little credit. I understand we come from years of Maloofery, so it's not automatic to trust your owners again, but I have a strong faith in Vivek and I'm sure he is going to bring the glory days back. Stop overreacting, calm down, if it wasn't for Vivek our Kings would be the SOnics right now.

Then, Mullin could be just a consultant. I don't see the problem, and I don't understand how you can go from there to "Nellie ball here we come!".

 

[Gary]

I really don't understand some of you guys. Vivek just saved the Kings. He has made two moves, hiring Malone and D'Alessandro, and it looks to me everyone is pretty happy about that. I don't think he has made any bad move so far. Give this guy a little credit. I understand we come from years of Maloofery, so it's not automatic to trust your owners again, but I have a strong faith in Vivek and I'm sure he is going to bring the glory days back. Stop overreacting, calm down, if it wasn't for Vivek our Kings would be the SOnics right now.

Then, Mullin could be just a consultant. I don't see the problem, and I don't understand how you can go from there to "Nellie ball here we come!".

No doubt.. Some people are never happy even when our team was saved by the very man they are complaining about (in terms of who he's talking to for positions with the Kings).

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

I don't care for Mullin, but he'd also be a consultant. PDA wouldn't have to do anything he doesn't want to do. Not a huge deal, but he does bring a decent name with him.... could help in recruiting other good front office guys or players. Brings a little bit of legitimacy.

 

[ninjabiscuit]

How much griping can you guys work into the greatest off-season in Sac Kings history? limits being tested. dayum...

Agreed.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick 1h
"I'm told nothing formally done yet,but would be surprised if it doesn't happen. Mullin worked with new GM Pete D'Alessandro at Golden State."

Amick confirming...

https://twitter.com/sam_amick

 

[pdxKingsFan]

You never quite know how these two headed monsters will work, but I imagine Mullin as more of an outreach/closer type while D'Allesandro is the one who defines the targets and crunches the numbers.

 

[jalfa]

kinda whatever on the Mullins hiring, no idea what advantage his presence will really bring, but I doubt it'll be a detriment in any way. as for the smallball panic, and I know this won't be a popular opinion, but please note that the two teams clashing in yesterday's finals matchup both started small forwards at the four spot. Golden State only gained traction in their playoffs run when they started using Harrison Barnes as a stretch four, New York played their best basketball using Melo as a PF and the Rockets were also considerably better once they banned their sad collection of real power forwards to the bench. now, I'm not advocating small ball as a general ideology, neither for this team, with the personnel assembled, no for any other one and I'm well aware that teams like Memphis and Indiana owe much of their success to refusing to go small (Memphis less so than Indiana). all I'm saying is that small ball can work, if the team is constructed correctly (an anchor in the fashion of Bogut, Asik or Chandler would be a must, for instance), isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Mullins was horrible.

 

[The Hammer]

Anybody who calls him Chris Mullins gets an automatic F. Good god it's Mullin!

 

[bajaden]

Mullins was horrible.

I don't know. He was a very good shooter and a good passer!!! Or were you talking about something else?

 

[Kingster]

kinda whatever on the Mullins hiring, no idea what advantage his presence will really bring, but I doubt it'll be a detriment in any way. as for the smallball panic, and I know this won't be a popular opinion, but please note that the two teams clashing in yesterday's finals matchup both started small forwards at the four spot. Golden State only gained traction in their playoffs run when they started using Harrison Barnes as a stretch four, New York played their best basketball using Melo as a PF and the Rockets were also considerably better once they banned their sad collection of real power forwards to the bench. now, I'm not advocating small ball as a general ideology, neither for this team, with the personnel assembled, no for any other one and I'm well aware that teams like Memphis and Indiana owe much of their success to refusing to go small (Memphis less so than Indiana). all I'm saying is that small ball can work, if the team is constructed correctly (an anchor in the fashion of Bogut, Asik or Chandler would be a must, for instance), isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I agree with this. I'd rather be the pragmatist than the doctrinaire ideologue. Whatever works, baby. I highly doubt that either Pop or Spoelstra are ideological converts to small ball. They just adjust to the strengths/weaknesses of their team, given the current rules of the game. Along those pragmatist lines, it's pretty obvious that the 3 point line has changed the game. It's not the same game as 20-30 years ago because the rules are different. It makes sense then that guys who can consistently hit 3 point shots (a la Danny Green) are more valuable than they might have been back in the 1980s, and it makes sense that guys that can't shoot that 3 point shot are relatively not worth as much as they might have been back in the 1980s. It doesn't mean those non-shooting wings should be banished from consideration, just that their non-three-point-shooting weakness is more pronounced these days in a game of 3-point shooting.

 

[Heuge]

I don't get the whining here. This is asinine. So they want Mullin, the hall of famer with ties to the coach GM and owner to consult. Ya, that sounds like the end of the world...How Maloofian of them...geez

 

[VF21]

I agree with this. I'd rather be the pragmatist than the doctrinaire ideologue. Whatever works, baby. I highly doubt that either Pop or Spoelstra are ideological converts to small ball. They just adjust to the strengths/weaknesses of their team, given the current rules of the game. Along those pragmatist lines, it's pretty obvious that the 3 point line has changed the game. It's not the same game as 20-30 years ago because the rules are different. It makes sense then that guys who can consistently hit 3 point shots (a la Danny Green) are more valuable than they might have been back in the 1980s, and it makes sense that guys that can't shoot that 3 point shot are relatively not worth as much as they might have been back in the 1980s. It doesn't mean those non-shooting wings should be banished from consideration, just that their non-three-point-shooting weakness is more pronounced these days in a game of 3-point shooting.

And, conversely, they're able to adjust to the weaknesses of the OTHER team. Watching Pop coach during these playoffs has been a true learning experience. Putting Manu into the starting lineup yesterday clearly threw the Heat for a loop. And I'm pretty Pop still has some tricks left in the bag.

 

[rainmaker]

Mullin better not go after Monta, who he's a big fan of, just opted out of contract and has already been mentioned as a possibility.

As an aside, most of the people overreacting in this thread and whining are the people overreacting and whining about the opinions of others. If you don't like whining you probably shouldn't respond to opinions by whining about them. Too much emotion, too little analysis.

 

[jpsls]

Mullin better not go after Monta, who he's a big fan of, just opted out of contract and has already been mentioned as a possibility.

As an aside, most of the people overreacting in this thread and whining are the people overreacting and whining about the opinions of others. If you don't like whining you probably shouldn't respond to opinions by whining about them. Too much emotion, too little analysis.

If anything there is too much analysis going on in this thread. Mullin is being tied as a potential consultant, and the first thing people think of is the Kings focusing on small-ball as their primary offensive weapon.

 

[sdballer]

Mullin better not go after Monta, who he's a big fan of, just opted out of contract and has already been mentioned as a possibility.

As an aside, most of the people overreacting in this thread and whining are the people overreacting and whining about the opinions of others. If you don't like whining you probably shouldn't respond to opinions by whining about them. Too much emotion, too little analysis.

I almost posted this exact thing. I don't mind the potential hire but understand why people would have reservations based on mullin's performance on the job. Ever since the incredibly good news about the team staying, some people on here feel the need to jump on anyone with a concern about a potential decision.

Reactionary posting on either side is annoying so lets not spend the rest of tdos criticizing every contrary opinion.

 

[Arco Arena]

People "whine" because they care. It's completely natural. You may not agree with their opinion but this is a forum...

Doesn't seem right to basically tell people to shut up if they have anything negative to say about the Kings organization. Nobody is discounting what Vivek + others did to keep the Kings here, in fact, I'm sure the Kings are delighted that people have been paying such close attention to argue over rumors.

 

[John Galt]

People "whine" because they care.

Whining is not an exhibition of passion, it is an exhibition of whining.

This is a guy putting together his executive team. It is his prerogative entirely to pick guys he's comfortable with where he will have good mutual trust. There is nothing wrong or weird with the persistent Bay Area/Warriors ties. It is just "freak out" mode to say "... omg I don't know if I like the sound of this consultant hire".

The degree to which fan feedback should guide Vivek's hand when it comes to hiring a consultant in his front office is exactly zero. Nobody on this board is in a position to lend a credible opinion on whether or not hiring Mullin as a consultant is a good way for Vivek to spend his money or build his team.

It is Pete, Michael, and Vivek's team for a while. Give it a TRY before you cry... sheesh.

And if they want to hire Kenny Smith or Chris Mullin or anybody else to tip back drinks and share ideas with, it is just fine.

One of the best features of this Senior Management team is the apparent synergy and lack of ego war among them. We're in a great place.

 

[VF21]

If anything there is too much analysis going on in this thread. Mullin is being tied as a potential consultant, and the first thing people think of is the Kings focusing on small-ball as their primary offensive weapon.

Exactly. Or at least over-reaction in the guise of analysis. But oops. There I go, whining about people running around yelling the sky is falling again.

 

[VF21]

Some posts about Alcoholics Anonymous have been deleted. Not sure why it was brought up in the first place, but it was pointed out - quite rightly - that it's called Alcoholics ANONYMOUS for a reason. Thanks...

 

[Kingster]

And, conversely, they're able to adjust to the weaknesses of the OTHER team. Watching Pop coach during these playoffs has been a true learning experience. Putting Manu into the starting lineup yesterday clearly threw the Heat for a loop. And I'm pretty Pop still has some tricks left in the bag.

Absolutely. Watching the Spurs is a learning experience. I would hope every Kings' player would watch a ton of Spurs games over the offseason to see how they play. IT could learn a tremendous amount from watching Parker. Cousins could learn a lot by watching Duncan for the last 10 years. I'll go out on a small limb and assume that Malone is a fan of Spurs' ball.

As an aside, I love the way they hit Duncan when he is on the move in the paint. He doesn't just set up in the block while all of Miami can prepare itself for him. They hit him on the move and then he immediately shoots or passes to the wing, depending on the defense. There is no dribbling; just an immediate shot or pass. That should be what Cousins' does. Move, get the pass, shoot immediately, or pass to the wing. Cousins has very good feet for a big man. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to do what Duncan does "footworkwise", as long as he would put in the time and practice it.

 

[jalfa]

Absolutely. Watching the Spurs is a learning experience. I would hope every Kings' player would watch a ton of Spurs games over the offseason to see how they play. IT could learn a tremendous amount from watching Parker. Cousins could learn a lot by watching Duncan for the last 10 years. I'll go out on a small limb and assume that Malone is a fan of Spurs' ball.

As an aside, I love the way they hit Duncan when he is on the move in the paint. He doesn't just set up in the block while all of Miami can prepare itself for him. They hit him on the move and then he immediately shoots or passes to the wing, depending on the defense. There is no dribbling; just an immediate shot or pass. That should be what Cousins' does. Move, get the pass, shoot immediately, or pass to the wing. Cousins has very good feet for a big man. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to do what Duncan does "footworkwise", as long as he would put in the time and practice it.

I absolutely agree with this. so far, getting Cuz the ball has been pretty much exclusively him being stationed in the post or at the elbow and being asked to do stuff, or those weak p'n'r things where he barely touches the guy that's supposed to be screened. can't remember him being screened by a guard (like Danny Green has been doing a lot this season) even once all year. this, I think, is where a lot of potential lies for the Kings' offense, just getting Cuz in better positions and not having him run ragged on that end. might result in him being a step faster on defense as well.

 

[gunks]

Look, if it doesnt work out, then oh well....We'll get a new consultant and tell Mullin to walk. We now have a proactive ownership group with money, not the Maloofs. If somebody isnt working they arnt going to stick around.

I say wait and see. Who knows how big a role he will have anyway.