Sacramento TV and Radio Future
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Im on VF's side on this. I just think people are making WAY too big a deal out of Grant. Either way he really just doesnt hold influence on where this franchise is going. We have brand new owners ready to throw money at our city. Of course people are allowed to not like Grant, this is America after all. But some people on this board act like he broke down their door and burned their house down after stealing their family. The way Grant interacts with callers is a completely different thing from being a mod on a forum and preventing useless arguments that are off topic.
What's ironic about this part of the show is that not two minutes before discussing trading Cousins, Grant refused to talk about what coaches could be brought in to replace Smart. Grant said that Smart is under contract and he's not going to discuss a coach leaving or being replaced while under contract. No problems throwing Cousins under the bus though. What does this mean? Grant likes Smart as a person and doesn't like Cousins. Grant knows his words have influence and doesn't want to use them to hurt Smart, but has no problems using them to hurt Cousins.
Give me a guy on the radio who wants to talk basketball, not play office politics.
Give me a guy on the radio who wants to talk basketball, not play office politics.
I agree on Jason Ross. I know him personally and he's a great guy, however, as I told him the last time I saw him, he needs to shed a few pounds and get back to the guy that could go one on one. I'm not a fan of Kozimor. The few times I met him in person he was an a$$. He had a sports talk show, that unless it was Kings talk night, seldom talked sports. Thats where he got in trouble with Grant when he sat in for Grant when he was on vacation.
Personally I liked Kayte Christenson. I thought she had screen presence, was very knowledgable, and articulated her points extremely well. I think she would be excellent on a pre, or post game show. Kozimor and his nonsense can stay in the bay area as far as I'm concerned.
Personally I liked Kayte Christenson. I thought she had screen presence, was very knowledgable, and articulated her points extremely well. I think she would be excellent on a pre, or post game show. Kozimor and his nonsense can stay in the bay area as far as I'm concerned.
I didn't listen to the show today, and probably won't waste bandwidth on it at any time in the near future, but is it possible Grant was merely saying something to rile up his listeners? I would think the calls have gotten pretty tame what with all the good news lately and you don't get ratings if your show is all hugs and cuddles all the time...
I'm going to say this as carefully as I can, so as not to violate a trust. VF21 has some serious issues with Grant, which I won't go into. As a matter of fact, I share those issues. The fact that she's going out of her way, to some extent, defend Grant, shows me that she has integrity, and that she doesn't let her personal emotions get in the way of being fair and honest. I wish I could say the same for some of the other posters on this fourm. Your way off base here, and I hope I haven't overstepped a trust.
I think the Cousins thing is personal. But I know what you're saying about riling up the listeners. I just think that if you do too much riling up, you get one type of caller. That's the caller who wants to agree with you so that they don't get hung up on. All in all, I don't hate Grant. I just disagree with his style and question his motives. I went a year without listening to him on the radio, and I can do it again. Right now I'm just fired up to hear anything Kings related and he's the only show in town. Can't read this forum on my phone while driving home.
So we have people saying Jason Ross deserves to go more than the most visible and influential media person, Grant Napear, who seriously and very publicly advocates trading the single greatest hope this franchise has had in nearly 20 years for Jeff Green.
The telltale sign of the damage this does is that his "callers" (if you can call them that, I guess technically they did call) agree.
So you say he's doing it for ratings. Ok. But it's the same thing the Maloofs were doing (on a much smaller scale), you're sabotaging the team (by influencing people's opinions by spewing this garbage, and then making it look like the whole town agrees with you), using your position of power, all to serve yourself.
Grant is not a team player. That's my issue.
The telltale sign of the damage this does is that his "callers" (if you can call them that, I guess technically they did call) agree.
So you say he's doing it for ratings. Ok. But it's the same thing the Maloofs were doing (on a much smaller scale), you're sabotaging the team (by influencing people's opinions by spewing this garbage, and then making it look like the whole town agrees with you), using your position of power, all to serve yourself.
Grant is not a team player. That's my issue.
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I really like Jeff Green and think he will have a breakout year, but not for Cousins (besides, who would start at Center? Chuck Hayes? Cole Aldrich?)
Anyway, as several posters have commented, I like Grant as a PBP announcer but I don't like his style for the radio show. Personally I liked the more civil style before the Jim Rome in-your-piehole kind of show seemed to take over everywhere. Now everyone has to have a better "take" than everyone else rather than a discussion.
Anyway, as several posters have commented, I like Grant as a PBP announcer but I don't like his style for the radio show. Personally I liked the more civil style before the Jim Rome in-your-piehole kind of show seemed to take over everywhere. Now everyone has to have a better "take" than everyone else rather than a discussion.
I am glad to see someone point this out. I have found it ironic that during the past 2 weeks (which have been extremely important to the Kings and their fans) Jason Jones has been no where to be seen. If you wanted good information on what was going on, you were better off following Carmichael Dave (from his garage), Sam Amick and Aaron Bruski. And the few times Jason Jones did send out a tweet on the subject it was usually a retweet of one of those 3. There have been many reporters who have covered the Kings I thought did a poor job, but Jason Jones is a joke IMO.
There is a big difference between this forum and the radio. While Grant's purpose is to talk about sports, it is also about entertainment and ratings. That is not the case on this forum. If someone is droning on and on in one of their posts or saying something completely ridiculous, we can just skip to the next post. When listening to the radio we don't have that option, especially when it is the only sports radio available in town. I don't know how many times when listening to the radio I have wished for a caller to be cut off for various reasons. Now maybe Grant can be a too blunt about it at times, but that is part of his radio persona.
I caught part of his show after he mentioned this trade. I guarantee the Celtics would jump at that trade and hope they could pull it off before the Kings came to their senses. Grant also tried to insinuate that the Kings would ultimately have to choose between Cousins and Tyreke (stating that Tyreke didn't like playing with Cousins). I thought that was interesting since I have never seen those 2 seem to have any problems with each other, but have seem them have problems with other players at different times.
It's pretty obvious to me The Bee has Jason Jones write strictly about the team (players,coaches, games) than the ownership change. That's been Lillis, Voison, etc. the whole way. Jones hasn't ever touched the ownership angle, and that's due in large part to what he's assigned, not what he chooses to do. Jones wrote about Petrie and the staff at the combine and he'll probably write about the lottery today too.
So Grant is now either publicly airing information which should be kept inside the locker room or fabricating a story to increase ratings? He's now pitting Reke against Cuz on his show.
I am so happy we have this guy on our airwaves. What a phenomenal asset for Kings fans. If it wasn't backing the Maloofs at every turn or insulting/shouting down one caller after another, it's airing dirty laundry from within the locker room and publicly attempting to pit our two best players against one another.
But he loves Kings fans. Awesome. Gotta love this guy. Pretty sad the standards around here and the ability to selectively ignore much of what Grant is about. But I guess anyone who says they love the team gets a pass on their actual body of work.
I am so happy we have this guy on our airwaves. What a phenomenal asset for Kings fans. If it wasn't backing the Maloofs at every turn or insulting/shouting down one caller after another, it's airing dirty laundry from within the locker room and publicly attempting to pit our two best players against one another.
But he loves Kings fans. Awesome. Gotta love this guy. Pretty sad the standards around here and the ability to selectively ignore much of what Grant is about. But I guess anyone who says they love the team gets a pass on their actual body of work.
The sarcasm gets old after a while, you know?
I was going to ask for some more detail about what Grant said for a couple of reasons. 1. I didn't listen, and 2. I wondered if it was along the lines of the vitriolic stuff Grant ranted about Bobby J. back in the day.
After reading the rest of your post, however, I hesitate to even ask for clarification.
I was going to ask for some more detail about what Grant said for a couple of reasons. 1. I didn't listen, and 2. I wondered if it was along the lines of the vitriolic stuff Grant ranted about Bobby J. back in the day.
After reading the rest of your post, however, I hesitate to even ask for clarification.
This belief seems incredibly naive to me, and ignoring of reality.
Media figures influence the public constantly. What do you think PR is about?
Multi-billion-dollar industries don't exist for decades for no reason....
When Napear constantly disseminates propaganda to tens of thousands (?) of listeners, day in and day out, for months/years, it DOES influence the team, fandom, and therefore the decision-making criteria for the team.
I've been a fan of Napear's since around 1997, when he used to be an objective (and accurate) critic/supporter of the team. His observations used to be sound.
Nowadays, they are invariably based on personal experiences and emotion/hype.
This recent targetting of DMC traces back to a specific day. It was around Dec 5th, 2012 or so (I vaguely remember) when Grant opened his show and attacked DMC for 2 straight hours, slowly dictating and controlling the message and discussion about Demarcus.
Since then, Grant has led the witchhunt against DMC, and has actively done almost everything a radio host can do to get DMC traded from the Kings.
I don't know what DMC did to Grant, but we all can guess that Demarcus called Grant out, in person, tired of his ****/schtick.
I used to respect Grant's in-your-face attitude, because as I remember, he had little problem with people being blunt back to him.
That changed (IIRC) around 2005 or so, when Grant got hypocritical, and he lies about him not having a problem with people calling him out.
Grant's complete and utter full-time defense of Keith Smart, and refusal to allow ANY discussion about the coaching staff's incompetence, combined with his witchhunt of DMC and blaming him for everything makes me, as a Kings fan, wish Grant GONE.
Grant will do more damage to this team if he gets DMC traded than any other person in the organization.
Thinking that a radio host, who week after week demonizes someone, does not influence the public is simply ignoring the reality of contemporary media.
But that's par for the course - VF21 and many others here don't believe that Brick and other prominent posters here can influence the group-think of KF's.com, either.
Media figures influence the public constantly. What do you think PR is about?
Multi-billion-dollar industries don't exist for decades for no reason....
When Napear constantly disseminates propaganda to tens of thousands (?) of listeners, day in and day out, for months/years, it DOES influence the team, fandom, and therefore the decision-making criteria for the team.
I've been a fan of Napear's since around 1997, when he used to be an objective (and accurate) critic/supporter of the team. His observations used to be sound.
Nowadays, they are invariably based on personal experiences and emotion/hype.
This recent targetting of DMC traces back to a specific day. It was around Dec 5th, 2012 or so (I vaguely remember) when Grant opened his show and attacked DMC for 2 straight hours, slowly dictating and controlling the message and discussion about Demarcus.
Since then, Grant has led the witchhunt against DMC, and has actively done almost everything a radio host can do to get DMC traded from the Kings.
I don't know what DMC did to Grant, but we all can guess that Demarcus called Grant out, in person, tired of his ****/schtick.
I used to respect Grant's in-your-face attitude, because as I remember, he had little problem with people being blunt back to him.
That changed (IIRC) around 2005 or so, when Grant got hypocritical, and he lies about him not having a problem with people calling him out.
Grant's complete and utter full-time defense of Keith Smart, and refusal to allow ANY discussion about the coaching staff's incompetence, combined with his witchhunt of DMC and blaming him for everything makes me, as a Kings fan, wish Grant GONE.
Grant will do more damage to this team if he gets DMC traded than any other person in the organization.
Thinking that a radio host, who week after week demonizes someone, does not influence the public is simply ignoring the reality of contemporary media.
But that's par for the course - VF21 and many others here don't believe that Brick and other prominent posters here can influence the group-think of KF's.com, either.