A pretty good video summary of Thomas Robinson's skills and weaknesses
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This is also a pretty good highlight mix, in that its by a scouting service and covers more than just the normal dunks. Has some post work, passing, defense etc. :
This is also a pretty good highlight mix, in that its by a scouting service and covers more than just the normal dunks. Has some post work, passing, defense etc. :
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I think he'll be turnover prone for awhile. All his spins and chaos inside, plus a lack in at aptitude of passing skill, will result in some frustrating turnovers until he develops those parts of his game.
As for the Landry comparison, he's bigger and more athletic than Landry. I hope the offense doesn't utilize him like it did Landry. Those high post isos always drove me nuts. I'd rather see TRobb in the pick'n'roll and on the fast break. Those will be his strengths.
As for the Landry comparison, he's bigger and more athletic than Landry. I hope the offense doesn't utilize him like it did Landry. Those high post isos always drove me nuts. I'd rather see TRobb in the pick'n'roll and on the fast break. Those will be his strengths.
Wasn't thrilled with the way the draft unfolded but no doubt Robinson was bpa. I trust Petrie and I think Robinson may have been #2 on his draft board, although no way of knowing for sure. If anything I think we absolutely HAVE to be better than the Jazz now... all they have is Jefferson and Millsap (I'll take Cousins over Al and Robinson over Millsap, thank you) and they went 36-30 last year. If Tyreke ever takes the next step we really might have a shot at developing into a team that can not only make the post season but make a little noise in it.
You know, given his build, toughness and a bit of nastiness, and that he is a good man defender, I wonder if he could develop into a Haslem type defender with the physicality, while obviously being much better on the other end than Haslem.
Seems to me he has the tools to be a tough minded defender like Haslem. But so do others and a Halsem type is pretty rare nowadays.
Seems to me he has the tools to be a tough minded defender like Haslem. But so do others and a Halsem type is pretty rare nowadays.
Jesus freaking christ. Why is this board obsessed with height? It's driving me freaking insane.
Thomas Robinson measured out the same athletically as Blake Griffin (and better than Drummond) He's the best rebounder in the country. He has 0 motor/hustle concerns. He has the most polished offensive game for a big in this draft class. He was one of the top post defenders in the country.
What. The. Hell.is.the. problem? We were given a top 2 talent at #5 for the 2nd time in 3 years and people still find a way to complain.
Thomas Robinson measured out the same athletically as Blake Griffin (and better than Drummond) He's the best rebounder in the country. He has 0 motor/hustle concerns. He has the most polished offensive game for a big in this draft class. He was one of the top post defenders in the country.
What. The. Hell.is.the. problem? We were given a top 2 talent at #5 for the 2nd time in 3 years and people still find a way to complain.
Disclaimer: I'm pretty fine with the pick.
Moving on, you're silly if you honestly believe that height doesn't matter in basketball. Height makes a huge difference. Put it this way, you give vlade an extra 1 inch of height and reach and he may have been able to secure that rebound instead of tapping it out to Horry. I know it's purely hypothetical and an extreme example, but the point still stands - height matters. Thomas Robinson is as good as he is at rebounding at 6'7.75". He'd be that much better if he were 6'9.
The truth is Thomas Robinson is undeniably a little undersized as a PF in the NBA. It doesn't mean that he won't be a phenomenal player though, but it does mean that his height only serves as a disadvantage in PF terms.
Moving on, you're silly if you honestly believe that height doesn't matter in basketball. Height makes a huge difference. Put it this way, you give vlade an extra 1 inch of height and reach and he may have been able to secure that rebound instead of tapping it out to Horry. I know it's purely hypothetical and an extreme example, but the point still stands - height matters. Thomas Robinson is as good as he is at rebounding at 6'7.75". He'd be that much better if he were 6'9.
The truth is Thomas Robinson is undeniably a little undersized as a PF in the NBA. It doesn't mean that he won't be a phenomenal player though, but it does mean that his height only serves as a disadvantage in PF terms.
The top of your head doesn't make a bit of difference in basketball. What matters is wingspan, standing reach, and vertical. Robinson has a great wingspan, a decent standing reach, and a great vertical. His size is not a disadvantage. I should also mention that his measurements are in line with those of David Lee, Al Jefferson, Amare Stoudemire, Carlos Boozer, Blake Griffin, and Kevin Love.
He doesn't move, he flies. I mean, he gets ahead of guards.
At 4:04 of the first mix he showed what Tyreke should have.
When you look at his improvement over the year, you realise MKG doesn't have monopoly on work ethic.
Landry was a finesse player, Robinson is all power though he has soft touch around the rim.
At 4:04 of the first mix he showed what Tyreke should have.
When you look at his improvement over the year, you realise MKG doesn't have monopoly on work ethic.
Landry was a finesse player, Robinson is all power though he has soft touch around the rim.
Amen my friend. We just picked up the 2nd best player in a deep draft and people are complaining because we didn't get a Kawhi Leonard clone. We got a franchise player, yet people want a role player who stands in the corner and shoots a couple of 3's a game.
I thought I'd log into this board and see people rejoicing after that pick. Never in a million years would I have guessed half the people would be complaining because we didn't draft a Leonard or Battier.
I thought I'd log into this board and see people rejoicing after that pick. Never in a million years would I have guessed half the people would be complaining because we didn't draft a Leonard or Battier.
This franchise player thing is getting considerably overblown by some outsized love. We got a guy who was compared to Al Horford and Reggie Evans on draftexpress. To Patrick Patterson and Derrick Williams on nbadraftnet. If he can be a smaller Horford that's a win for us. The idea that he's going to dominate the league is like the idea Jimmer was going to dominate the league last year. Being driven by some serious wishful thinking by a few. I never say never and will hold that door open a crack because at the least I think he has the right attitude to get the most out of his talent, but let's just call it highly unlikely. Frankly there would be problem even if he were that sort of player. There is not room for two 20pt scorers in one frontcourt (as in the past 30 years of the NBA I think there may only have been 1 season by 1 team where they ever had that, as Duncan and Robinson were passing in the night, one going up, the other down), and we've already got our guy in Cousins. If Robinson can be a 15ppg guy and strong rebounder, that works more smoothly for us. Hakeem used to do that with Otis Thorpe. The difference was Hakeem was one of the greatest rim defenders in league history.
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Firstly, I'm not so sure Thomas Robinson is going to be a franchise player. Secondly, you're damn right that I'm still not satisfied, and it has nothing to do with what Thomas Robinson brings to the team, and everything to do with what he doesn't. That's not a knock on him, I don't expect to get a shotblocker that can actually play and a role playing SF all with a top 5 pick. But seriously, we have gaping holes on the team that we absolutely must address. Our defense is terrible, and we haven't done anything that improves our defense significantly!
I rejoice with the pick of Thomas Robinson. I fume that the Bobcats took MKG. I'm ****ed that we didn't use our second round pick on someone who could address a need. But, the offseason isn't over. Time to address those needs.
Put it this way. You have a wooden dam that's leaking because of a hole. You think to yourself, ok I'll improve the dam, and you replace all the cheap wood with solid concrete (forgive my lack of dam building knowledge), but you don't cover the hole. The dam is still going to leak, because you haven't addressed the main problem. Well, our leaking hole is our friggin SF position, a position that we've attempted to fill with (since Artest left): John Salmons, Andres Nocioni, Omri Casspi, Donte Greene, Ime Udoka, Francisco Garcia, John Salmons again, Travis Outlaw, Tyler Honeycutt, Dominic McGuire? and now Tyreke Evans. And despite adding IT, Tyreke, MT and DMC we aren't that much better of a team than we were when we were worst in the league. At some point you have to address your main problems.
I rejoice with the pick of Thomas Robinson. I fume that the Bobcats took MKG. I'm ****ed that we didn't use our second round pick on someone who could address a need. But, the offseason isn't over. Time to address those needs.
Put it this way. You have a wooden dam that's leaking because of a hole. You think to yourself, ok I'll improve the dam, and you replace all the cheap wood with solid concrete (forgive my lack of dam building knowledge), but you don't cover the hole. The dam is still going to leak, because you haven't addressed the main problem. Well, our leaking hole is our friggin SF position, a position that we've attempted to fill with (since Artest left): John Salmons, Andres Nocioni, Omri Casspi, Donte Greene, Ime Udoka, Francisco Garcia, John Salmons again, Travis Outlaw, Tyler Honeycutt, Dominic McGuire? and now Tyreke Evans. And despite adding IT, Tyreke, MT and DMC we aren't that much better of a team than we were when we were worst in the league. At some point you have to address your main problems.
Do we not still express our frustration that Noah was taken before Hawes? I don't see what's wrong with being upset that MKG didn't fall to us (when he had a good chance of doing so). I haven't seen any posts expressing disdain over picking Robinson over Barnes/Lillard/Drummond/Henson/Waiters .. Maybe it's because MKG would have been an excellent pick that fit extremely well, whereas Robinson is an excellent pick that doesn't fit as well as MKG would?
Look there is absolutely no question that Robinson was easily the best available player and a VERY good pick up.
I just can't shake this feeling that this is the same aituation we had with JJ Hickson even though Robinson is a much better defender. Hopefully I am wrong but JJ was not a good fit next to Cousins despite being a good young player and his game is somewhat similar to Robinson's.
I just can't shake this feeling that this is the same aituation we had with JJ Hickson even though Robinson is a much better defender. Hopefully I am wrong but JJ was not a good fit next to Cousins despite being a good young player and his game is somewhat similar to Robinson's.
There is no problem with Thomas Robinson. None. He's solid. End of story.
The problem is that he isn't what the Kings need. It's like my aunt needs a hip replacement and the Kings hook her up with a famous eye surgeon. You.See.The.Problem.Now??
So I guess the Kings will just have to field a great perimeter defensive team now to make up for their lack of interior shot blocking. They have to or it's going to be ugly weak defensive blowout basketball all over again.
