[NBA] Comments that Don't Warrant Their Own Thread (Playoffs?)
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i really thought the bulls were going to close out the heat in this series before it started. i don't want to see the superfriends win it with the way they were gloating before the season even started. if they win it all, will this the roadmap to winning multiple 'ships? i'm sure all the stars in the league are going to want to do this to have a chance at winning one. are all the small market teams going to have their stars picked off by large market teams going forward?
Yes, I think so. Which while in the short run will probably boost NBA ratings, but in the long run will probably lead to contraction for several teams. Hopefully the NBAPA and the owners can come to an agreement on something that will prevent this from happening. Even though, to be fair, the Heat built that team fair and square. It's not like LeBron was given to them on a silver platter like, oh say, somebody named Gasol.
It makes perfect sense. Didn't you say they weren't going to win without a post presence? How are the Mavs/Heat getting it done? While Durant/Westbrook aren't as good as Wade/Bron/Dirk at the moment, give them time they will both be superstars anyways and then we can talk about how much of a post presence they need.
Durant will never be as good as those guys. His game is not dynamic. He's a 6'11" guy who can shoot the rock whenever he wants. He doesn't really do much else. You can't have him run the offense. His defense is suspect. Wade/Lebron are the exception; kinda in the Jordan/Pippen mold where they're that good that they can win a title by playing the game outside in. Durant/Westbrook will never reach that level; they're essentially just gunners and you can see how easily their games turn into failures in the 4th quarters against good teams who play good to great D and who know how to execute.
I wouldn't say Jordan played exactly outside-in. He made his legacy with posting up and fading away, much like what Dirk is recently doing with his one legged variation and what Kobe has imitated for the majority of his career.
It is definitely possible that Durant could develop go to post up jumper like Dirk, who didn't develop his post game until Avery Johnson forced him to.
It is definitely possible that Durant could develop go to post up jumper like Dirk, who didn't develop his post game until Avery Johnson forced him to.
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Dirk has been hardened over the years, to the point that he's now basically unstoppable, and playing on a team with several secondary scorers in the event a defense tries to take his scoring away. Durant is simply too young to be able to carry a team through the playoffs offensively, and he doesn't have a team of veterans around him who can pick him up when necessary. He also has an immature though talented point guard who needs to understand his role. No matter, Durant isn't ready. But in a couple of years, if he pays attention, and if the front office puts the right players around him, he could do what Dirk has done and develop the tools to make himself a nightmare on offense.
Also, re: Jordan, he was the Bulls low post presence, especially in the playoffs against good defensive teams. He'd put his man on the block and go to work. And then when they'd put a bigger defender on him (like Bryon Russell) he'd step out further from the basket. Wasn't his entire game, but when the Bulls needed to establish a post game in the playoffs, it was Jordan on the block.
Also, re: Jordan, he was the Bulls low post presence, especially in the playoffs against good defensive teams. He'd put his man on the block and go to work. And then when they'd put a bigger defender on him (like Bryon Russell) he'd step out further from the basket. Wasn't his entire game, but when the Bulls needed to establish a post game in the playoffs, it was Jordan on the block.
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And again, another lesson for Kings fans via the bloody pulp the young teams were turned into in the Conference Finals. I thought the "can't spell choke without an OKC" line was clever, but the 22yr old so called MVP got squashed just as bad when it mattered. It takes time peeps. No matter how good the kids are, it still takes time. And all those late collapses and whatnot aren't just a Kings specialty. Its the fate of every young player and young team at some point. When you are 21 you think you have it all figured out, but its not until life kicks you in the teeth a few times that you start to truly get the hang of it.
Absolutely Brick, and that's why this should be an interesting, very tight finals pitting two very strong veteran teams. I suppose Miami might be slight favorite just because of home court. I think Dallas may miss additional punch that Butler could have given them - although they haven't missed him so far. But then again, Miami is without Big Z but has Haslem back. Dirk may have to score 40+ in every game for Dallas to win - and maybe he will. Could come down to whoever gets most out of their bench and/or rebounding edge. I wonder if Kings fans have a pick of love Bibby more or love Peja more?
Sure you can. The Lakers have doen it every year with Fisher. Now the Heat are doing it with ghost of Bibby/Joel Anthony. You don't need 5 stars. 2-3, and then just a bunch fo guys who are good at staying out of the way, playing defense, and hitting key shots. And hell, if your stars are as good as Miami's even those things aren't truly necessary.
Agree about Dalembert BTW. He would be the perfect completing piece down there (something we damn well better take note of) and if they were to get him they could become virtually unbeatable for years.
Agree about Dalembert BTW. He would be the perfect completing piece down there (something we damn well better take note of) and if they were to get him they could become virtually unbeatable for years.
Interesting. The best matchup for Dirk quite clearly is Udonis Haslem, who's given him fits before, but I can't actually find a way to keep his rebounding averse behind on the floor, when Tyson Chandler is there to wreak havoc on the offensive glass. On of the things that makes me at least a bit hopeful for this series. The other of course being that the Heat so far have not been faced with an offense as competent and patient as that of Dallas.
Ok, maybe you can make the finals with a guy that bad in your starting lineup. But Bogans is worse than those guys you mentioned on offense. Fisher is able to occasionally take ballhandling pressure off of Kobe, Bibby can make open shots. I have no idea why Bogans is played, to his credit though, in the playoffs he improved his play from worst starter in the history of the league up to pretty bad starter (roughly in the old bibby/fisher range) and I was satisfied with that.
I don't have any hatred for what they did, but I do think it needs to be addressed in the new CBA. Not in terms of making sure teams can't stack talent, but making sure that teams can't keep adding payroll every year without regard for the cap. Either through trades, increasing salaries, extensions, etc. A more restrictive cap policy would blow the Heat up in two seasons, at most, and would have blown the Lakers up, and the Celtics. It would squash all this talk about the Lakers snapping their fingers and adding Dwight Howard and/or Chris Paul.