Yes, we know that. But thats not what you said. You said one of the reasons for Greene getting more playing time was that Greene wasn't under contract for next year, and Casspi was. That may not have been what you mean't, but thats what you said. So we were merely pointing out that Greene is under contract for next year.
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My biggest problem with what Omri said is the timing. This team is playing well, and is starting to turn the corner, yet Omri appears to be more concerned with his playing time, and plays being run for him, than he is about the team turning the corner and collectively playing its best ball in a while.
And this wasn't a case of a foreigh journalist misinterpreting what Omri said. He came out and wrote a column, and didn't once mention how well the team is playing, or what he individually needs to work on to make the team better. It was only about him not getting playing time, and him needing a different place to play. How about the fact he's gotten more of a chance to prove himself as a starting sf than the other two sf's on our team, and didn't take advantage of it? I don't see Omri taking any responsibility for the fact he's young, and has a lot of improvement to make.
And this is not the first time this has happened either. Last year there was an instance with a foreign journalist. Just 2 weeks ago, after a victory, Omri was complaining about sf's on this team not getting enough plays run for them. I like Omri, but am becoming more concerned with his focus on himself over the team. And I don't care if he has pressure from Israel. He had that last year, and has an idea what to expect. He's not the first foreign player to have pressure on him. But I don't remember Dirk, Parker, Hedo(ton of pressure from turkey), or any other foregin players writing columns like this in a home newspaper when they struggled the first few years. I also can't get over the fact that with how well this team has played lately, he left any comment about the success of the team out of his column.
And this wasn't a case of a foreigh journalist misinterpreting what Omri said. He came out and wrote a column, and didn't once mention how well the team is playing, or what he individually needs to work on to make the team better. It was only about him not getting playing time, and him needing a different place to play. How about the fact he's gotten more of a chance to prove himself as a starting sf than the other two sf's on our team, and didn't take advantage of it? I don't see Omri taking any responsibility for the fact he's young, and has a lot of improvement to make.
And this is not the first time this has happened either. Last year there was an instance with a foreign journalist. Just 2 weeks ago, after a victory, Omri was complaining about sf's on this team not getting enough plays run for them. I like Omri, but am becoming more concerned with his focus on himself over the team. And I don't care if he has pressure from Israel. He had that last year, and has an idea what to expect. He's not the first foreign player to have pressure on him. But I don't remember Dirk, Parker, Hedo(ton of pressure from turkey), or any other foregin players writing columns like this in a home newspaper when they struggled the first few years. I also can't get over the fact that with how well this team has played lately, he left any comment about the success of the team out of his column.
Is this really a big deal? I will bet when he got zero playing time, the people in Israel who stay up at all odd hours to watch him were curious as to what is going on. I imagine Omri is wondering what is going on. I sure wonder. This is one of those inexplicable jackass moves of Westphal's and in Israel, this is what happens. He's not American, he's not German, he's not anything but an Israeli. From what I understand, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that he said, did, or perhaps contemplated that is not typical Israeli. Attitude? A pro player wants to play. I sure hope so.
At least he's not getting into physical fights with team mates or going into the stands to take on the customers.
At least he's not getting into physical fights with team mates or going into the stands to take on the customers.
Seems like WP is really not planning with Omri in the future.
Today again not even one minute...
Its a pity since this kid has a lot of potential and I personally like him.
He is sometimes a selfish player due to the fact that if he passes the ball on he never gets it back.
On his position he is usually on the offside of the ball and therefore is dependent of a team that moves the ball-which we dont do.
We have too many options on the offense and Omri is, was and also in the future wont be the prime target.
I wish him luck and more minutes since I think this kid will be a solid NBA player.
Today again not even one minute...
Its a pity since this kid has a lot of potential and I personally like him.
He is sometimes a selfish player due to the fact that if he passes the ball on he never gets it back.
On his position he is usually on the offside of the ball and therefore is dependent of a team that moves the ball-which we dont do.
We have too many options on the offense and Omri is, was and also in the future wont be the prime target.
I wish him luck and more minutes since I think this kid will be a solid NBA player.
Maybe he isn't in the plans as a starter. I hope we get a free agent SF who can play great defense. That usually means a veteran.
Our SFs today scored 5 points. The fight is to see who is first off the bench. I suspect that Omri's fate has been decided and that the man on the bubble, the guy getting the big try out, is Greene. That's why they are playing him. They need to decide whether to keep him or make him part of a trade. You have to see him play and he is failing as far as I am concerned. Even Cisco is shakey.
But, I really don't know what is going on except that our starter for many games is now getting no minutes.
Our SFs today scored 5 points. The fight is to see who is first off the bench. I suspect that Omri's fate has been decided and that the man on the bubble, the guy getting the big try out, is Greene. That's why they are playing him. They need to decide whether to keep him or make him part of a trade. You have to see him play and he is failing as far as I am concerned. Even Cisco is shakey.
But, I really don't know what is going on except that our starter for many games is now getting no minutes.
Here is the latest column in The Jerusalem Post by Allon Sinai about Omri Casspi. Pretty much what I had said a couple of days ago, but it proves the sentiment that some over here in Israel have of what Omri did and how it was the wrong way to handle things
http://www.jpost.com/Sports/Article.aspx?id=215344
http://www.jpost.com/Sports/Article.aspx?id=215344
interesting point of view:
take a look at the interview with omri and marcus after the win vs suns last week:
http://www.nba.com/video/teams/kings/2011/03/30/11CustomYoutubemov-1611872/index.html
some things went through my mind:
1. omri said: "i was kinda surprised when coach called my name". i think this just the way omri is expressing his feelings - openly and honestly. it's not about complaining.
how many players would have answered the same way?
2. he also said: "the team played well when i didn't play, and i'm kind of a guy who will never complain when the team is playing well". again, i think omri column is not about complaining, it's simply about explaining the situation from his side. omri is a smart guy.
i think he realised that the team is playing well without him,PW doesn't count on him for the future, so he doesn't want to spend his 3rd year by warming the bench for 40-48 min when you know you are not, and won't be part of the team's core.
3. listen to marcus answer about the similar situation he faced in NOH , and imagin his inner reaction when he was informed he is going to be traded.
does anyone think he wasn't happy? (though NOH wasn't a bad team and was winning about 50%)
does anyone think that during his long periods on NOH bench, the only thing he thought about is that the team is doing not-so-bad and it's great, or that maybe he spent a lot of time thinking about his own future if he will continue warming the bench?
take a look at the interview with omri and marcus after the win vs suns last week:
http://www.nba.com/video/teams/kings/2011/03/30/11CustomYoutubemov-1611872/index.html
some things went through my mind:
1. omri said: "i was kinda surprised when coach called my name". i think this just the way omri is expressing his feelings - openly and honestly. it's not about complaining.
how many players would have answered the same way?
2. he also said: "the team played well when i didn't play, and i'm kind of a guy who will never complain when the team is playing well". again, i think omri column is not about complaining, it's simply about explaining the situation from his side. omri is a smart guy.
i think he realised that the team is playing well without him,PW doesn't count on him for the future, so he doesn't want to spend his 3rd year by warming the bench for 40-48 min when you know you are not, and won't be part of the team's core.
3. listen to marcus answer about the similar situation he faced in NOH , and imagin his inner reaction when he was informed he is going to be traded.
does anyone think he wasn't happy? (though NOH wasn't a bad team and was winning about 50%)
does anyone think that during his long periods on NOH bench, the only thing he thought about is that the team is doing not-so-bad and it's great, or that maybe he spent a lot of time thinking about his own future if he will continue warming the bench?
ok maybe now it will be more clear why omri posted his column:
omri told reporters today: "coach westphal came to me and told me he decided to go to another direction , and i'm not included on his plans.
i'm not whining, i'm not mad at anybody. this is the situation, and therefor i hope to find myself in a better situation next season".
PW reaction: "Omri is telling the truth"
source: http://www.sport5.co.il/HTML/articles/Article.403.97601.html (Israel most reliable website)
omri told reporters today: "coach westphal came to me and told me he decided to go to another direction , and i'm not included on his plans.
i'm not whining, i'm not mad at anybody. this is the situation, and therefor i hope to find myself in a better situation next season".
PW reaction: "Omri is telling the truth"
source: http://www.sport5.co.il/HTML/articles/Article.403.97601.html (Israel most reliable website)
Hold on, the exact translation to Paul W. is "He is telling the truth from his point of view" I think that's a little different than just "Omri is telling the truth". I think there's more to interpret here, it's not so cut and dried.
And also, why is Sport 5 Israel's most reliable website? I am curious.
And also, why is Sport 5 Israel's most reliable website? I am curious.
i checked the article again, this is the 2nd version of the article,and you're right about PW reaction- sorry for that.
in addition, the 2nd version also includes a comment from jeff petrie that says: "any speculation about casspi is way too early. after this season will end we'll discuss our squad and what should be done"
about sport5: this site known for not publishing articles/information/comments before checking it 1000 times. they also not publishing yellowish articles if you know what i mean
in addition, the 2nd version also includes a comment from jeff petrie that says: "any speculation about casspi is way too early. after this season will end we'll discuss our squad and what should be done"
about sport5: this site known for not publishing articles/information/comments before checking it 1000 times. they also not publishing yellowish articles if you know what i mean
Actually, the exact translation will be "from his direction", it can be interpreted as many things like, "point of view", "his angle of things", "to his understanding", but it doesn't really makes a difference since the Hebrew quote is a translation of the reporter from English, so it's not accurate anyway.
I'll also agree with the sport 5 statement, among the other big sites (ynet, nrg, one, walla) he is the most reliable.
I'll also agree with the sport 5 statement, among the other big sites (ynet, nrg, one, walla) he is the most reliable.
I don't really see how you can pin this on Westphal. It's like ... people complain when he screws around with rotations, but throughout that period Omri was given pretty consistent minutes. Now, we're playing good ball and Westphal has been playing a fairly consistent rotation, and with Thornton and Tyreke we're playing a 3 guard rotation with Udrih that seems to be working. And then people complain that Omri isn't being given minutes.
It's like geesh ... so now Westphal has to play Tyreke, Udrih, Thornton, Greene, Garcia AND Greene for at least 20 minutes a game and win all the games we play? Omri is just a victim of circumstance, and the circumstance is not a bad one for the team. If Westphal suddenly cut Garcia and Greene's minutes and played Omri and we lost people would be calling him stupid, criticizing him for not sticking with what was working.
It's like geesh ... so now Westphal has to play Tyreke, Udrih, Thornton, Greene, Garcia AND Greene for at least 20 minutes a game and win all the games we play? Omri is just a victim of circumstance, and the circumstance is not a bad one for the team. If Westphal suddenly cut Garcia and Greene's minutes and played Omri and we lost people would be calling him stupid, criticizing him for not sticking with what was working.
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IMO, this is the heart of the problem and what has fueled this debate about Omri's playing time. I don't think he's a good NBA player right now. The Kings do not have an overabundance of talent. If he was a good player there would be minutes for him. PW finally figured out that most of the time Omri HURTS the team and that is why he's not on the floor. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the team is playing better without him. Of course, there are other factors too (Thornton, DMC's play, Reke back, etc.) but I think they are better off without him.
Should I tell that to the Israeli audience? I am being interviewed in an hour. If the question comes up, I think I would agree with you.
I'm not as down on him as you are because he's 22, in a new culture, with a coach that at times seems scatter brained. BUT, he most likely is better off on another team. I think he will have a decent career and a decent career in the NBA means that when he retires, he'll never have to work again. At some point, with his dissatisfaction, he has to realize that he still is perhaps one of the top 400 basketball players in the world and will be rich.
The fact that he doesn't seem to care about riches and is focusing on playing time is to his credit.
I'm not as down on him as you are because he's 22, in a new culture, with a coach that at times seems scatter brained. BUT, he most likely is better off on another team. I think he will have a decent career and a decent career in the NBA means that when he retires, he'll never have to work again. At some point, with his dissatisfaction, he has to realize that he still is perhaps one of the top 400 basketball players in the world and will be rich.
The fact that he doesn't seem to care about riches and is focusing on playing time is to his credit.
can't see what is the problem to tell the israeli audience your opinion. not all the israeli fans care only about casspi.
(for example, lots of comments to articles on israeli sport websites are like: "start focusing on high quality teams instead of reporting about everything omri does or says", same thing about broadcasting a lot of kings games instead of contenders games) .
give the israeli fans a little bit more credit- most of them recognize that the kings are playing better without omri, you won't find a lot of people in israel that will say: "omri is a star, i can't understand why he isn't starting consistently".
even though casspi is the 1st israeli to play in the NBA, it's not like he is a HUGE star in israel like it seems from the US.
(for example, lots of comments to articles on israeli sport websites are like: "start focusing on high quality teams instead of reporting about everything omri does or says", same thing about broadcasting a lot of kings games instead of contenders games) .
give the israeli fans a little bit more credit- most of them recognize that the kings are playing better without omri, you won't find a lot of people in israel that will say: "omri is a star, i can't understand why he isn't starting consistently".
even though casspi is the 1st israeli to play in the NBA, it's not like he is a HUGE star in israel like it seems from the US.
I'm not sure. There probably will be an audio recording (is that redundant?) or maybe a transcript. I sure can find out.
It'll be posted here http://israelsportsradio.com/
It'll be posted here http://israelsportsradio.com/
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