why not start a protest?
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They might matter in the context of Sacramento...or would have once at least. Far too long the dialog aroudn there has been dominated by naysayers and peiople dumping on the Kings. Its a toxic atmosphere, and the sort of thing that could absolutely conviince a wavering owner to say screw it and bail out -- no arena, and the city doens't want us = bad news. Once, and who knows maybe now, but Sacramento has needed people ont he other side to step up and fight that toxicity for years, and it just hasn't been there in any orgnaied fashion. Would a single rally make all the difference? Maybe not. But it could not hurt, and if it could inspire peopel with siilar opinions to drown out the negativity it really could help. Might be too late now, but anything showing support/the pro side of the debate in Sacto can only be positive.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
I was thinking about how to protest this morning. Actually Arco is setup perfectly. You really dont need that many to be effective. The way parking is setup with a big circle around arco with inlets to parking all we need is people blocking the inlets. Force cars to go around the circle and back it up. Instant news and taking money away from the teams consessons. Who knows maybe the ones going to the game join in.
I found this story of how the Sonics fans protested maybe we can do something similar but in front of Arco before a game or another location where we can attract the public.
http://www.seattlepi.com/basketball/367296_rally17.html
http://www.seattlepi.com/basketball/367296_rally17.html
If your going to protest, it shouldn't be at ARCO, it should be wherever the city council holds their meetings. I also think selling out the last home game before the march 1st deadline would help send a message to the Maloofs that the fan support is there. As a matter of fact. Not only sell out the game, but have thousands standing outside unable to buy a ticket. Now that would be a demonstration
Does it make a difference to any of you where the Kings go if they leave Sacramento?
The only thing that can save the Kings for Sacramento is action on this front - right here in Sacramento - to either build a new arena or have locals buy the team. Just takes money. Do any of you have money to help on either issue? Do any of you know of a friend with Meg Whitman type money who can be persuaded to back the Kings in Sacramento? During these hard economic times the only ones who have money to spare are the very successful and very wealthy . get out your Christmas card list and see what you can find.
It doesn't do any good to follow the news and knowing who has or may make an offer on the Kings from Timbuktoo. That will take care of itself. What we need is 2011's version of Greg Lukenbill and his cohorts to make a move. If the voters, the City and County politicians, the monied, the fans get going this whole thing may catch fire and start rolling. All it takes is money and people.
At my age I might not miss the Kings very much because I might forget they left or what sport they played. Come on you young guys, get some fire. It's not going to happen if you sit back and read the newspaper, or appraise the population or wealth or what-have-you of Anaheim or Klamath Falls, so do something, rub two sticks together.
Don't call the Maloofs names, support them. It's not their responsibility to keep the Kings here. That responsibility is ours in Sacramento.
The only thing that can save the Kings for Sacramento is action on this front - right here in Sacramento - to either build a new arena or have locals buy the team. Just takes money. Do any of you have money to help on either issue? Do any of you know of a friend with Meg Whitman type money who can be persuaded to back the Kings in Sacramento? During these hard economic times the only ones who have money to spare are the very successful and very wealthy . get out your Christmas card list and see what you can find.
It doesn't do any good to follow the news and knowing who has or may make an offer on the Kings from Timbuktoo. That will take care of itself. What we need is 2011's version of Greg Lukenbill and his cohorts to make a move. If the voters, the City and County politicians, the monied, the fans get going this whole thing may catch fire and start rolling. All it takes is money and people.
At my age I might not miss the Kings very much because I might forget they left or what sport they played. Come on you young guys, get some fire. It's not going to happen if you sit back and read the newspaper, or appraise the population or wealth or what-have-you of Anaheim or Klamath Falls, so do something, rub two sticks together.
Don't call the Maloofs names, support them. It's not their responsibility to keep the Kings here. That responsibility is ours in Sacramento.
"We're NOT GONNA protest!"
"We're NOT GONNA protest!"
Seriously, though. I think it's a good idea. Not so much a protest, but a show of support. And yes, I wouldn't follow the Kings if they left town. I come home to visit my family all the time, and check in a game when I'm in town. I wouldn't fly to Anaheim just to visit the Kings. That would be silly.
"We're NOT GONNA protest!"
Seriously, though. I think it's a good idea. Not so much a protest, but a show of support. And yes, I wouldn't follow the Kings if they left town. I come home to visit my family all the time, and check in a game when I'm in town. I wouldn't fly to Anaheim just to visit the Kings. That would be silly.
Several years back here in Houston (around 2000 if I remember correctly), the city council voted down a plan to fund a new stadium and our owner was openly negotiating with other cities in our face. The guys who run clutchfans.net started up a big internet campaign that got large enough to where it appeared on local and national media. (http://web.archive.org/web/20020601120343/www.saveourrockets.com/about.cfm) It really did play a big part in pressuring the city council and the team to come up with some agreement.
That said its 2011 and there's so much noise on the internet that this type of thing probably wouldn't work today. But dont say that you cant impact something like this if you dont try.
That said its 2011 and there's so much noise on the internet that this type of thing probably wouldn't work today. But dont say that you cant impact something like this if you dont try.
Not just selling out the game, but working hard to get every fan in the building to chant throughout the game. To show the Maloofs that we're serious. To show them that we love the Kings. To show them that we deserve one last chance to put together an arena deal, and that we love the team enough to make an arena happen, even WITH public funds.
"Kings! SACRAMENTO! Kings! SACRAMENTO!"
"One more year!"
"Vote Yes Vote Arena!"
That kind of thing. Convince the Maloofs. Convince the media. Convince the public. And maybe we can get it done. If the Maloofs don't file next week, we really need to do this.
"Kings! SACRAMENTO! Kings! SACRAMENTO!"
"One more year!"
"Vote Yes Vote Arena!"
That kind of thing. Convince the Maloofs. Convince the media. Convince the public. And maybe we can get it done. If the Maloofs don't file next week, we really need to do this.
Just posted a thread in the New Arena forum of a campaign already started
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?39963-quot-HERE-WE-STAY-GAME-quot-Feb-28
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?39963-quot-HERE-WE-STAY-GAME-quot-Feb-28
Absolutely! If it's not already too late, we need to convince the Maloofs to give the city one more year to get it done. We need to show them that we support an arena, that we support Kevin Johnson and the city council, and that we'd vote yes on public monies if it came down to that. This MUST be a positive demonstration.
I haven't read this thread and for that I apologize. I admire the enthusiasm but ...... as I understand it, the knowing opinion is that the arena cannot be built without public money. Cannot! Wasn't there recently a vote where the voters overwhelmingly voted down a tax to help build an arena?
The people who don't want the Kings are the citizens of Sacramento. Better yet, they aren't willing to pay for them. The people that need convincing are the citizens of Sacramento and I;'m afraid this is just a small town with not a clue about what a great arena can do for a city. it is more than a place for people to run around in shorts but it is a place for conventions, etc.
The people who don't want the Kings are the citizens of Sacramento. Better yet, they aren't willing to pay for them. The people that need convincing are the citizens of Sacramento and I;'m afraid this is just a small town with not a clue about what a great arena can do for a city. it is more than a place for people to run around in shorts but it is a place for conventions, etc.
The people of police-state Egypt never protested in the streets for over 30 years of one-man iron fisted domination. Only when nearby Tunisia showed them the way did they take to the streets to call for change. Now there's massive demonstration ongoing all over the Arab world against repressive totalitarian rule.
America has a very long history of public demonstrations from rallies for labor union rights nearly a hundred years ago, civil rights protests, Vietnam war protests, and on and on. Even today the Tea Party rallies draw thousands all across the land when organized. If the demonstration is peaceful at least nowadays we don't gun down protesters.
I guess if I go to a Kings rally in peace my sign will say - "Don't Tread On My Kings"
America has a very long history of public demonstrations from rallies for labor union rights nearly a hundred years ago, civil rights protests, Vietnam war protests, and on and on. Even today the Tea Party rallies draw thousands all across the land when organized. If the demonstration is peaceful at least nowadays we don't gun down protesters.
I guess if I go to a Kings rally in peace my sign will say - "Don't Tread On My Kings"
Yes the voters did vote against a tax to fund the stadium. However, I think its the amount that the city would have to put up that would be the issue. If the Taylor group comes back with a plan that would require some money from the city, but the money would also be paid back over a number of years, and the amount if reasonable, the city council could vote to take the money out of the general fund. Or the city council could vote to make city land available to the developers as part of the city's payment, with that lands worth being paid back down the road.
In other words, if you have the entire city council on board, and they're ballsy enough, they could allocate the money for the arena without a vote of the taxpayers.
In other words, if you have the entire city council on board, and they're ballsy enough, they could allocate the money for the arena without a vote of the taxpayers.