[Grades] Grades v. Celtics 2/1/11

[Asaf]

Another observation.... what the heck was with all the Celtic fans at Arco? Did they fly in from the east coast? Seriously, Sacramento has a real low identity problem. This town is full of bandwagoners. I would expect a few, but that was too many for it not to be obvious...

It makes sense. There are probably a lot of people in sacramento who have grown weary of rooting for the Kings, but still hate the Lakers (and maybe also Miami), and what better team to root for against the Lakers and the Heat than the Celtics?

Personally, I've watched a lot of Celtics games this season and they are probably the most fun-to-watch team in the NBA these days, so it's not surprising that they have a lot of fans all over the country.

 

[pshn80]

There is always a lot of celtics fans in the area, but more so now that the Kings are down and they are up.

You're right, always has been, worse now because the KIngs themselves can't fill the house. I was there and also at the Lakers last visit. I was surprised that the Celtics jerseys seemed to be there in equal numbers with the Lakers. Of course, I also saw a Miami Heat jersey. Observation........ the Celtic green wearers seemed more friendly and polite than our Laker comrades.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Observation........ the Celtic green wearers seemed more friendly and polite than our Laker comrades.

Hmm. I had the privilege of sitting next to the most boorish "road" fan I have ever seen at a sporting event, and very close to the worst I've seen period (though the way a "home" A's fan treated my White Sox fan friend at the Coliseum was on par). He was obnoxious all night, but once it became clear the Celtics were likely to win, things got ugly. Loud mockery with the vilest of hurtful intent slung at anything he could grasp on to, ranging from our record, to our upcoming lottery pick, to fans starting to leave with 90 seconds left in the game and the outcome all but certain, to, most notably, our arena situation. I'm sorry, but when a fan of the other team comes in to your house and starts mocking you because your team might leave town, it's basically unacceptable.

I was nice, though. Since his (quiet) fiancee clearly recognized what was going to happen after their halftime beer run and rearranged the seating so that she was between us, I didn't turn to her and give her my sympathies that she was stuck with such a jerk. At least she made a minimal effort.

Still, Boston and its fans lost a LOT of goodwill from me last night. Like, basically all of it. Never been to a Lakers game at ARCO, but I don't think that Laker fans could get any WORSE than this guy.

 

[Section 101]

Hmm. I had the privilege of sitting next to the most boorish "road" fan I have ever seen at a sporting event, and very close to the worst I've seen period (though the way a "home" A's fan treated my White Sox fan friend at the Coliseum was on par). He was obnoxious all night, but once it became clear the Celtics were likely to win, things got ugly. Loud mockery with the vilest of hurtful intent slung at anything he could grasp on to, ranging from our record, to our upcoming lottery pick, to fans starting to leave with 90 seconds left in the game and the outcome all but certain, to, most notably, our arena situation. I'm sorry, but when a fan of the other team comes in to your house and starts mocking you because your team might leave town, it's basically unacceptable.

I was nice, though. Since his (quiet) fiancee clearly recognized what was going to happen after their halftime beer run and rearranged the seating so that she was between us, I didn't turn to her and give her my sympathies that she was stuck with such a jerk. At least she made a minimal effort.

Still, Boston and its fans lost a LOT of goodwill from me last night. Like, basically all of it. Never been to a Lakers game at ARCO, but I don't think that Laker fans could get any WORSE than this guy.

They do. Warrior fans are even worse. A Portland fan was thrown out and I think arrested for public intoxication last year.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Hmm. I had the privilege of sitting next to the most boorish "road" fan I have ever seen at a sporting event, and very close to the worst I've seen period (though the way a "home" A's fan treated my White Sox fan friend at the Coliseum was on par). He was obnoxious all night, but once it became clear the Celtics were likely to win, things got ugly. Loud mockery with the vilest of hurtful intent slung at anything he could grasp on to, ranging from our record, to our upcoming lottery pick, to fans starting to leave with 90 seconds left in the game and the outcome all but certain, to, most notably, our arena situation. I'm sorry, but when a fan of the other team comes in to your house and starts mocking you because your team might leave town, it's basically unacceptable.

You know, it's one thing to live in Sacramento and not be a Kings Fan, it's something else entirely to live in Sacramento and actually be a fan of another team, but it takes a special kind of dumbass to live in Sacramento, be a fan of another team, and actively root for the Kings to leave Sacramento.

I mean, those people in Sacramento who are fans of other teams are going to feel really stupid if the Kings end up leaving and, instead of being able to drive ten miles to see their team play, they have to drive ninety miles or further. That'll really show you guys, huh?

 

[bajaden]

They can't run an effective screen to save their lives. I don't know if its just Cousins and Dalembert but they just seem to half *** screens and let the guards run right through them. The Celtics were screening and running the pick n roll effectively all 4th quarter. Pierce would come off the screen wide open and either take a 15ft jumper or pass it off to whoever had to leave their man to guard him.

The Kigns on the other hand don't set hard screens. The opposing guard always runs through them. Tyreke or Beno will come off the screen guarded and then throw it 5ft to Cousins who is guarded....who then looks around the court at 4 other guys who are guarded.

Your close, but you have it backwards. There's nothing wrong with the screens that Cousins or Dalembert, or even Landry sets. The problem is that the Kings only have on player that knows how to use a screen properly and thats Beno. Tyreke is absolutely horrible at times trying to use a screen. I can't tell you how many times someone will set a screen and Tyreke will get to the screen and then reverse directions before his defender is even affected by the screen, thus rendering the screen useless.

I was actually stunned in last nights have when Tyreke used one of Cousins screens beautifully, and made the jumpshot. So maybe there is hope.

 

[bajaden]

They lost to probably the best team in the league. Boston is a great team with three Hall of Famers. They've got tons of experience in huge games. The Kings played hard, and for their experience level, they played smart and unselfishly. Their D was great. Cousins had a little regression in attitude, but not disastrously so. All in all, you can't ask for more. Now on to San Antonio...

I'm curious how Cousins is the one your blaming here, when it was Rondo that did the shoving. And got the technical as well. All Cousins did was brush Rondo's hand off of him, and wasn't even looking in his direction when he did it. Did he get upset when he got shoved? Yep, you bet. And I would have been upset if someone shoved me.

 

[bajaden]

This is where you need players who cut the to basket on the overplay. Not the kings strength anymore.

I agree. How many times in the game did you see Cousins with the ball in high post, and maybe on player will cut down the lane or run the baseline. And then thats it. He's left standing there waiting for a cutter and there are none. They have to get more player movement if their going to continue to run the offense through him in the high post. He's a very good passer, but he needs a target.

 

[ArcoKings]

You're right, always has been, worse now because the KIngs themselves can't fill the house. I was there and also at the Lakers last visit. I was surprised that the Celtics jerseys seemed to be there in equal numbers with the Lakers. Of course, I also saw a Miami Heat jersey. Observation........ the Celtic green wearers seemed more friendly and polite than our Laker comrades.

The bandwagon is alive and well. I despise bandwagon fans.

 

[bajaden]

I voted Beno. Not to pick on him, but just because if we get little or no offense out of him were usually going to struggle. Can't blame the loss on him though. I blame the loss on the Celtics. They are a very good team, and may be the best team in the NBA right now. Without a doubt they are the best defensive team in the NBA, and the fact that the Kings were able to stay with them for almost the entire game is nothig to be ashamed of.

The Kings had one big problem going in. Our backcourt of Beno and Evans had to matchup with Allen and Rondo. So who do you have Beno guard? Pick your poison, because either player you put him on, its a mismatch in the Celtics favor. How many times did we have to close the lane to keep Rondo out, and leave Allen wide open. Just a tough match up for the Kings.

Not a shock that the Celtics won. But a very good effort by the Kings.

 

[pshn80]

Still, Boston and its fans lost a LOT of goodwill from me last night. Like, basically all of it. Never been to a Lakers game at ARCO, but I don't think that Laker fans could get any WORSE than this guy.

Oh, yes they can, and did at my last Lakers game. Absolutely rude and disrespectful of those around him including other Laker fans, and there were tons of them.

It is a terrible experience to have to put up with any obnoxious fan regardless of their affiliation. I'm sorry you had that experience.

 

[DeMoN]

Who is Michael Cena???

 

[Section 101]

Who is Michael Cena???

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[Kingster]

I'm curious how Cousins is the one your blaming here, when it was Rondo that did the shoving. And got the technical as well. All Cousins did was brush Rondo's hand off of him, and wasn't even looking in his direction when he did it. Did he get upset when he got shoved? Yep, you bet. And I would have been upset if someone shoved me.

I should have been more explicit. I wasn't referring to the Rondo episode. That's either a plus in Cousins' favor or just not that important. I'm referring to the times where Cousins gets frustrated and literally stops playing and hurts the team. He also gets frustrated and then makes poor plays, again hurting the team. Those are things that I'm looking at. That's where he regressed. If Cousins stands up to someone on the court, more power to him, as long as he doesn't take a swing.