Trade Landry for...

#1
I think a large chunk of the board would like to trade Landry before the season is up. No offense to the guy but he is not cut out to be a starter and I don't think we will pay him what he'll want to be our 6th man when the season is over. So instead of letting him walk and getting nothing for his contract - like last year with Kenny Thomas - we should try to pick up someone to help the team in the future.



What position and what player would you target???



Personally I'd like for the team to trade for a 2 guard. I'm not entirely sure if they are all available and frankly too lazy to make sure contracts match up, but it would be great if we could use Landry to get...


1. O.J. Mayo - He's been coming off the bench for Memphis and they might not be able to afford him after resigning Gay and Conley to large contracts. Randolph and Marc Gasol look to be up next. Send them Landry's expiring contract as a way for them to gain some cap space. Mayo would be great for the Kings. Instant starter who can create his own shot, consistently hit a jumper, and play defense.

2. Rudy Fernandez - Fernandez has been disgruntled for years in Portland and rumors are they would like to pick up another big man. Don't know if this is actually true but I feel Fernandez would be a great fit in Sacramento. We continue to be an International friendly team and he would get the PT he wants assuming Westphal doesn't continue to play Chinese fire drill with the line ups. Fernandez is athletic, can hit the open 3, and plays better defense than given credit for.

3. Andre Iguodala - It's been said the 76ers have been shopping Iggy and Iggy has said that he expected to be traded. Why not make his new home Sacramento? Aside from my homerish reasons of being a UoA basketball fan, Iggy would be a solid fit at the 2 next to Reke. Not as ideal as Mayo or Fernandez because he lacks a consistent outside shot, but he surpasses both of them in athleticism. He would instantly become our 'wow' player and give the fans something to get excited about once or twice a game.


Those are my top 3 choices at this point. Let's face it, at this point the Kings aren't going to be a popular destination for any free agents so we will need to improve our team via draft and trade. Once again, I don't truly know how available any of those players are but I would be willing to deal Landry + ____ if necessary to make it happen. As long as the blank isn't a 1st round pick or a young player ;)

Go Kings!
 
#5
We obviously need someone who can hit a 3, since we are dead last in 3%. Of course looking at the league leaders in 3% I saw this:

#2 Bibby 42-78 54%
#8 Peja 15-31 48%
#14 Nocioni 24-52 46%

What did we do to deserve this?
Anyway, we could always Double Down on Crazy:
Landry+Garcia -> Captain Jack 3% 42-101 41.5%

I think a starting five of
PG Tyreke Evans
SG Stephen Jackson
SF Donte Greene
PF Jason Thompson
C Samuel Dalembert

Could lead the league in Opp FG%.
 
#8
Only Fernandez is the viable option in the list in a swap. Disgruntled--check; Portland's need for a big--check. But with Fernandez, aren't we getting another disgruntled player? And he's sort of similar to Casspi, and he'll complain about the losing situation and the minutes glut.
 
#9
What about something along the lines of Landry and Greene to OKC for Jeff Green and Eric Maynor, gets us a starting SF and another true PG. Not sure OKC would take it as is, but not sure what else we have that we could offer. Can't give them too much because Green is expiring and could leave us with nothing. Maybe a 2nd rounder is enough, who knows. I'm not sure how high they are on Maynor right now either. I know he's getting some minutes, but he doesn't appear to be producing a ton. Anyway, thats one idea.
 
#10
Given that Landry is a free agent at the end of the year, I think people might be overstating his value. He doesn't make enough money to really help a team that's trying to free up cap space over the summer. He's not big enough to really draw a lot of interest in a trade.

I just don't see how trading for Rudy Fernandez helps the Kings, either.

Landry is listed at 6'9", but I have never believed those numbers. Maybe he's just not that athletic.

Landry for Fernandez does not improve the Kings, either.
 
#12
What about something along the lines of Landry and Greene to OKC for Jeff Green and Eric Maynor, gets us a starting SF and another true PG. Not sure OKC would take it as is, but not sure what else we have that we could offer. Can't give them too much because Green is expiring and could leave us with nothing. Maybe a 2nd rounder is enough, who knows. I'm not sure how high they are on Maynor right now either. I know he's getting some minutes, but he doesn't appear to be producing a ton. Anyway, thats one idea.
Not sure OKC would do that and frankly I would prefer to keep Donte as well. However, Landry for Maynor and a 1st round pick would probably work for both teams. Landry would give OKC some bench scoring they really need. They also need more veterans as opposed to youth right now. Maynor gives us a PG who plays solid D and who can shoot. Plus we get an extra pick out of the deal.
 
#15
Not sure OKC would do that and frankly I would prefer to keep Donte as well. However, Landry for Maynor and a 1st round pick would probably work for both teams. Landry would give OKC some bench scoring they really need. They also need more veterans as opposed to youth right now. Maynor gives us a PG who plays solid D and who can shoot. Plus we get an extra pick out of the deal.
Thats not a bad idea either. The main reason I thought Green might work is because he's expiring so I doubt they get a whole lot of value back for him but it wouldn't surprise at all if OKC says no to that deal. I'm not totally sure another draft pick is what we want/need at this point. We are such a young team already adding more youth and inexperience may only add to our current struggles. That would be the only concern I have with Maynor as well, but he is a good young PG so that is definitely a decent idea to consider.

What does the board think about Anthony Carter? I wouldn't trade Landry for him or anything crazy like that, but he's a seasoned vet PG who can still play a few minutes and maybe could help the offense run a little smoother when he's out there. Not much of a shooter or anything, but a good defensive PG and will make the right play with the ball. I'm guessing he could be had relatively cheap too.
 
#16
What does the board think about Anthony Carter? I wouldn't trade Landry for him or anything crazy like that, but he's a seasoned vet PG who can still play a few minutes and maybe could help the offense run a little smoother when he's out there. Not much of a shooter or anything, but a good defensive PG and will make the right play with the ball. I'm guessing he could be had relatively cheap too.
Anthony Carter has a career 3% < 25% and I don't think he brings anything to the table that Luther Head doesn't already. Plus he has only played 29 minutes this season, so I don't think he is the answer.
 
#17
Thats not a bad idea either. The main reason I thought Green might work is because he's expiring so I doubt they get a whole lot of value back for him but it wouldn't surprise at all if OKC says no to that deal. I'm not totally sure another draft pick is what we want/need at this point. We are such a young team already adding more youth and inexperience may only add to our current struggles. That would be the only concern I have with Maynor as well, but he is a good young PG so that is definitely a decent idea to consider.
Yeah, I like Maynor & pick for upside and stockpiling assets. At a certain point in a team's development you can have too much youth and if we're not reaching that tipping point next year, we will be the year after. However, picks and youth are farily good pieces to swing in trades for better picks or the type of veteran talent we want from team's getting ready to enter a rebuild.
 
#18
I'd want more than Maynor for Landry. Now, Landry for Green? More like it. Landry and Casspi for Harden? Yes, please.

Other ideas:

Landry and Casspi for Iguodala

Landry and ?? for Avery Bradley and ??

Landry and Casspi for Mayo (probably would need to be a 3 team)
 
#19
At a certain point in a team's development you can have too much youth and if we're not reaching that tipping point next year, we will be the year after. However, picks and youth are farily good pieces to swing in trades for better picks or the type of veteran talent we want from team's getting ready to enter a rebuild.
We're already there, I'd argue. We have too much depth as it is. Time to consolidate quantity for quality if possible. We should be past the point of hoping for next year's draft.
 
#20
Trade Landry for.....

Nobody...

Last year he averaged 17/6 and 53.5% fg for only $3 mil.

Look at player salaries and find more than 5 players that put up those kind of numbers for $3 mil.

You won't find many.

I say keep him. He is a good bargain.
 
#21
Trade Landry for.....

Nobody...

Last year he averaged 17/6 and 53.5% fg for only $3 mil.

Look at player salaries and find more than 5 players that put up those kind of numbers for $3 mil.

You won't find many.

I say keep him. He is a good bargain.
Right, because he'll re-sign for $3 million/year this summer.
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
#22
Exactly!

Haha, but really...

We should try to ship him out to a playoff team for some kind of goodie. I dont really know what we could get for him though, his expiring deal isnt huge enough to be much of a factor, and he's been playing like crap this year.

Honestly, we shouldnt trade anybody until we get a coach who can make our players look decent, instead of look like crap.
 
#23
Kings and Celtics

Kings deal: Garcia, Head and Landry
Celtics deal: Big Baby, Bradley, Daniels and 2011 1st round pick

Celtics get some needed upgrades in terms of depth at positions of need.
Kings get Bradley going forward with a late 1st and move Garcia's deal for added cap space.

Kings new roster:

C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Thompson, Big Baby, Jackson
SF: Greene, Casspi
SG: Evans, Daniels
PG: Beno, Bradley, Jeter
 
#24
Kings and Celtics

Kings deal: Garcia, Head and Landry
Celtics deal: Big Baby, Bradley, Daniels and 2011 1st round pick

Celtics get some needed upgrades in terms of depth at positions of need.
Kings get Bradley going forward with a late 1st and move Garcia's deal for added cap space.

Kings new roster:

C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Thompson, Big Baby, Jackson
SF: Greene, Casspi
SG: Evans, Daniels
PG: Beno, Bradley, Jeter
I love the "+2011 1st round pick" :D are you serious? I wouldn't do it if I were the Celts even without the 1st rounder.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Staff member
#26
I love the "+2011 1st round pick" :D are you serious? I wouldn't do it if I were the Celts even without the 1st rounder.
Keep in mind that their 2011 first round pick is going to be very late 20s if not 30. It's not a lottery pick.

I can actually see the Celtics doing this one. Garcia provides defense and shooting off the bench, and while Landry isn't a physical force, he's a good low post scorer, and after they make a serious title run this year they may be able to keep him around on the relatively cheap. As their big three decline he could become a serious piece for them and I don't think Big Baby can really be that guy.

It looks like the deal doesn't actually work salarywise and we'd have to take a bit more salary back (welcome Von Wafer!) or leave Head out of the deal.

But I'm not sure what we get out of this. Daniels and Wafer would be filler, Big Baby doesn't thrill me, and Bradley has played a whole 7 minutes thus far and is a huge question mark. It's a case of rearranging the deck chairs, so we might as well hold on to tradeable pieces like Garcia and Landry until we see a better deal.
 
#27
Keep in mind that their 2011 first round pick is going to be very late 20s if not 30. It's not a lottery pick.

I can actually see the Celtics doing this one. Garcia provides defense and shooting off the bench, and while Landry isn't a physical force, he's a good low post scorer, and after they make a serious title run this year they may be able to keep him around on the relatively cheap. As their big three decline he could become a serious piece for them and I don't think Big Baby can really be that guy.

It looks like the deal doesn't actually work salarywise and we'd have to take a bit more salary back (welcome Von Wafer!) or leave Head out of the deal.

But I'm not sure what we get out of this. Daniels and Wafer would be filler, Big Baby doesn't thrill me, and Bradley has played a whole 7 minutes thus far and is a huge question mark. It's a case of rearranging the deck chairs, so we might as well hold on to tradeable pieces like Garcia and Landry until we see a better deal.
I got it to work salarywise on ESPN Trade checker.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#28
No way would I trade Landry for an unproven player like Bradley. We are better off just letting him walk if we can't get anything reasonable for him. With the way he's been playing this year, I doubt we have much people calling about him at this time anyways.
 
#29
Kings and Celtics

Kings deal: Garcia, Head and Landry
Celtics deal: Big Baby, Bradley, Daniels and 2011 1st round pick

Celtics get some needed upgrades in terms of depth at positions of need.
Kings get Bradley going forward with a late 1st and move Garcia's deal for added cap space.

Kings new roster:

C: Dalembert, Cousins, Whiteside
PF: Thompson, Big Baby, Jackson
SF: Greene, Casspi
SG: Evans, Daniels
PG: Beno, Bradley, Jeter
I don't mind it but I'm not sure Celtics do it..
likewise I'm not sure the Rockets would do this trade.. But they want Landry back, and we're not taking Aaron Brooks rather Battier and their better defensive PG

Kings Out: Landry, Garcia, Casspi or Greene
Kings In: Battier, C. Lee, Kyle Lowry

Rockets Out: Battier, Lee, Lowry
Rockets In: Landry, Garcia, Casspi or Greene

Kings new Roster:
Dally/Cousins
JT/DJax/Whiteside
Battier/Casspi or Greene
Evans/Lee/Head
Lowry/Beno/
 

Capt. Factorial

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Staff member
#30
I got it to work salarywise on ESPN Trade checker.
I don't know why ESPN says it will work, but here's my reasoning on why it shouldn't work:
Big Baby: $3,000,004 (yeah, three million and a happy meal)
Daniels: $2,388,000
Bradley: $1,418,160
Total: $6,806,164

Garcia: $5,500,000
Landry: $3,000,000 (No happy meal, sorry Carl!)
Head: $992,680 (although due to the whole league-pays-part-of-minimum-salaried-vets rule, the Kings only owe $854,389)
Total: $9,492,680 (or $9,354,389 if Head is treated at the lower salary for trade purposes, though I think not)

The Celtics are over the cap, so they can only take 125% + 100,000 over what they send out. That comes up to $8,607,705 maximum returning salary. There's no way to cleverly split it up to make it better, either. The Celtics don't have a TPE. I can't see any way to do it without either not including Head or bringing another minimum salary back to the Kings.