Delonte West, anyone?

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Lafayette

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Not a bad player, plays tough and scrappy and scores. The problem is the attitude/legal issues and a bit undersized, I think the Kings want a bigger shooter, who knows, this team is stacked with POTENTIAL up the ying yang that it's hard to add guys that take minutes.
 
pdxKingsFan

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I've always liked Delonte but he seems to be a bit of a loose cannon. Not sure that is what we need right now.
 
stevetaebo

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Bricklayer said:
My initial thought was "just keep him away from Tyreke's mom" as well.

Thank you for saving me from having to be the one to make the tasteless remark. ;)
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Hmm.. can a remark like that be tasteless if it's juicy at the same time?

Maybe it's just unripe, like a plum that's not fully rippened yet.
 
Bricklayer

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NME said:



If we ever need help taking down a drug cartel though, we should keep him in mind.
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The Lakers gotta count as some sort of cartel, right? ;)

Ron v. West -- first man to strip naked, smear himself with lime green jello, and run screaming in tongues to Dennis Rodman's house for bingo night with Elvis, wins. Could be epic.
 
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sactownfan

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hell to the no!

no offense to the original poster but West is like a smaller and more heavily armed Ron Artest.

absolutely not!!!!
 
BosnianBaller_

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sometimes players just need a change in scenery. i wouldn't be totally against bringing him in. he can shoot the 3, play defense, and even handle the ball pretty well.
 
NME

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BosnianBaller_ said:
sometimes players just need a change in scenery. i wouldn't be totally against bringing him in. he can shoot the 3, play defense, and even handle the ball pretty well.
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It's too bad, because he has the perfect skillset, but we're not talking about Red Flags, we're talking about full on RED ALERT proven crazy.
 
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LWP777

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No chance. He is a nut case. I'm 100% certain he'd be in prison if he wasn't playing in the NBA.
 
Jespher

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While we're on the subject of nuts with guns what is the general consensus on Gilbert Arenas? Will he be able to ever play in the league again as a valuable contributor, or is he just an albatross contract wrapped around the Washington Wizards for 3 more years? He's still only 28 after all and has fewer miles on him with all the missed time the last several years.

Personally speaking, if the Maloofs weren't looking to spend money on a free agent for the next few seasons and IF Gilbert learned his lesson from last season he could be a good fit next to Tyreke as a dynamic backcourt that could score on anyone. Tyreke would handle the tougher defensive assignment, and Gilbert would guard the quicker Tony Parkers and Chris Paul style PGs. A rotation of Tyreke, Arenas, Beno, and Garcia could be explosive in both a good and a bad way and of course Arenas is readilly available...Probably too much downside to make the move though in salary alone, let alone headcase collection...
 
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cuad

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Gilbert was putting up 20 and 7 last year before he got suspended so he should be ok. I like the combo actually. It's just that his salary is bad. 20$ million for the next four seasons.

Plus I think Gilbert hates Petrie and the Kings organization.
 
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ParniValjak

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Agent 0 would work with Reke as well as Martin did!

People need to get over this fascination with getting another star guard next to Tyreke. Its never going to work. What we need next to Reke is a really good role player not a 20ppg player.
 
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cuad

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Čarolija said:
Agent 0 would work with Reke as well as Martin did!

People need to get over this fascination with getting another star guard next to Tyreke. Its never going to work. What we need next to Reke is a really good role player not a 20ppg player.
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To be honest I still have no idea why Kevin Martin didn't work... He did have a horrible shooting year, but I just don't know.
 
ParniValjak

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Err because both him and Tyreke need the ball to be effective. The difference was that Reke can create his own shot and opportunities for others while Martin needs the entire team to set him up. It just was NEVER going to work. The only way it would have worked is if Martin became a spot up shooter and which point his contract becomes way too excessive for what he brings to the table.

There has NEVER been a successful backcourt of two players who score at least 20ppg each in the entire history of the NBA. And by successful I mean the one thats actually won something not one in Don Nelson junkball system.
 
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cuad

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I see what you're saying. Joe Dumars + Isiah Thomas was the last SG-PG winning combo I could think of and they only averaged around 17ppg each.

But to me it still felt like there was more to it than that- why that combination just didn't work.
 
SacKings7

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Čarolija said:
Err because both him and Tyreke need the ball to be effective. The difference was that Reke can create his own shot and opportunities for others while Martin needs the entire team to set him up. It just was NEVER going to work. The only way it would have worked is if Martin became a spot up shooter and which point his contract becomes way too excessive for what he brings to the table.

There has NEVER been a successful backcourt of two players who score at least 20ppg each in the entire history of the NBA. And by successful I mean the one thats actually won something not one in Don Nelson junkball system.
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I definitely agree with this, but I'd like to add that Frazier and Monroe were also successful
 
Bricklayer

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SacKings7 said:
I definitely agree with this, but I'd like to add that Frazier and Monroe were also successful
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And yet as I detailed in the great Kevin debates back in the winter, Frazier/Monroe only averaged 20 apiece one season, and they didn't win a title that year either, and they played more than 35 years ago when scoring was much higher.

If the scoring star/scoring star backcourt was a workable strategy it would have seen a LOT more use/success over the decades than that. It flat doesn't work. It seems there's a cap of about 35-38 points you can get out of your backcourt before you become unbalanced toward the perimeter and have guards fighting over the ball rather than setting up their big guys. You can get there with Kobe scoring 28 and Fisher 9, or Chauncey scoring 17 and Rip 19, but its all that there seems to be room for on a successful team. And that only if both guards are capable creaters for others. Meanwhile Tyreke could well be a 25ppg scorer himself, so you can do the math on what that means for pairing somebody up with him.

People need to quit fighting the roleplayer idea. They may not be sexy, but roleplayers are GOOD. No roleplayers = no rings.
 
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