2009-10 Kings draft position thread
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Well, actually insofar as that's a reasonable strategy, it's the appropriate strategy for getting the best record, rather than the worst.
The whole reason for looking at one column rather than another is that teams haven't always played the same number of games. The reason you look at the loss column for playoff teams is that playoff-contention teams are good, and the expectation is that they will win. If I'm a playoff team and I want to know how safe my lead is, I look at the loss column, which tells me how many times I can screw up (lose) and still maintain my lead. When trying to get the worst record, the whole situation is reversed, and the win column is the one to watch.
The whole reason for looking at one column rather than another is that teams haven't always played the same number of games. The reason you look at the loss column for playoff teams is that playoff-contention teams are good, and the expectation is that they will win. If I'm a playoff team and I want to know how safe my lead is, I look at the loss column, which tells me how many times I can screw up (lose) and still maintain my lead. When trying to get the worst record, the whole situation is reversed, and the win column is the one to watch.
Correcto mundo!!! If you go by the losses were tied with Washington and Golden State for the third spot. At the end of the year, the team with the most losses, wins. Kind of an oxymoron.
Unfortunately, we have more wins than they do. Once you have a win, you can't turn it back into a loss.
Unfortunately, we have more wins than they do. Once you have a win, you can't turn it back into a loss.
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Ideally, I PRAY TO GOD that we get the 2nd Overall pick and take Evan Turner!
Honestly think that a back court of:
Tyreke Evans
Evan Turner
Donte Greene
Has the potential (and I'm VERY confident) to be the HARDEST backcourt to play against both on offense and on defense.
Casspi, Udrih and Garcia is also a very strong bench to have, but most likely one will be traded to upgrade the front court.
The front court will still be weak:
Thompson / Landry
Hawes
But I still drool at the possibility of that back court
If that does happen, I would dangle a package of:
Thompson + Landry + (one of Garcia, Udrih or Casspi) to see what is out there for our frontcourt.
EVAN TURNER PLEASE!!!!!
Honestly think that a back court of:
Tyreke Evans
Evan Turner
Donte Greene
Has the potential (and I'm VERY confident) to be the HARDEST backcourt to play against both on offense and on defense.
Casspi, Udrih and Garcia is also a very strong bench to have, but most likely one will be traded to upgrade the front court.
The front court will still be weak:
Thompson / Landry
Hawes
But I still drool at the possibility of that back court
If that does happen, I would dangle a package of:
Thompson + Landry + (one of Garcia, Udrih or Casspi) to see what is out there for our frontcourt.
EVAN TURNER PLEASE!!!!!
Getting a top 3 pick this year would be astronomical for our rebuilding process.
I find this post rather shallow and pedantic
Ideally, I PRAY TO GOD that we get the 2nd Overall pick and take Evan Turner!
Honestly think that a back court of:
Tyreke Evans
Evan Turner
Donte Greene
Has the potential (and I'm VERY confident) to be the HARDEST backcourt to play against both on offense and on defense.
Casspi, Udrih and Garcia is also a very strong bench to have, but most likely one will be traded to upgrade the front court.
The front court will still be weak:
Thompson / Landry
Hawes
But I still drool at the possibility of that back court
If that does happen, I would dangle a package of:
Thompson + Landry + (one of Garcia, Udrih or Casspi) to see what is out there for our frontcourt.
EVAN TURNER PLEASE!!!!!
Honestly think that a back court of:
Tyreke Evans
Evan Turner
Donte Greene
Has the potential (and I'm VERY confident) to be the HARDEST backcourt to play against both on offense and on defense.
Casspi, Udrih and Garcia is also a very strong bench to have, but most likely one will be traded to upgrade the front court.
The front court will still be weak:
Thompson / Landry
Hawes
But I still drool at the possibility of that back court
If that does happen, I would dangle a package of:
Thompson + Landry + (one of Garcia, Udrih or Casspi) to see what is out there for our frontcourt.
EVAN TURNER PLEASE!!!!!
Yes, GSW wost, but they still have 2 more wosses to catch up with us, or it won't matter. And all the other remotely competing teams that played today (IND, DET, WAS, NYK) got lins. Nights like that, where the competition woses 20%, won't really do.
1. NJN 10-65 .133
2. MIN 15-60 .200
3-4. WAS/GSW 22-53 .293
5. DET 23-52 .307
6. SAC 24-52 .316
7-8. PHI/NYK 26-49 .347
9. LAC 27-48 .360
10. IND 28-48 .368
1. NJN 10-65 .133
2. MIN 15-60 .200
3-4. WAS/GSW 22-53 .293
5. DET 23-52 .307
6. SAC 24-52 .316
7-8. PHI/NYK 26-49 .347
9. LAC 27-48 .360
10. IND 28-48 .368
I am praying we get a top 4 pick. Maybe even top 5. Lose from here on out, do what we have to do to give us the best chance at a top 5. IMO, a top 5 just about guarantee's a star player. As soon as you drop to picking between 6-10, you still get a very good player, but maybe not a star.
I really, really want either Turner, Cousins, or Favors. I don't see anyway Turner drops past the 2nd pick. But picking at 4 or 5 just about guarantees we get a pick of either Cousins or Favors. I could see either Aminu or Wesley Johnson being picked ahead of either Cousins or Favors. Maybe not, but I see either Cousins or Favors being available with the 5th pick, and both gone by the 6th. Both will be stars IMO, and both would be the best at their positions the day they step on the court for us.
I really, really want either Turner, Cousins, or Favors. I don't see anyway Turner drops past the 2nd pick. But picking at 4 or 5 just about guarantees we get a pick of either Cousins or Favors. I could see either Aminu or Wesley Johnson being picked ahead of either Cousins or Favors. Maybe not, but I see either Cousins or Favors being available with the 5th pick, and both gone by the 6th. Both will be stars IMO, and both would be the best at their positions the day they step on the court for us.
The dark horse in the draft is the Warriors. I don't know how much influence Nellie still has there, but if he still has control, then god knows what he'll do. I don't see Cousins as a Nellie type of player. Maybe Favors. But if the Warriors end up 4th and Cousins is still on the board, I could see Nellie passing on him for someone like Aminu, Motiejunas, or Johnson. Cousins just doesn't fit into Nellie's run and gun offense.
There are always GM's that make wrong decisions, or at best, surprising decisions.
There are always GM's that make wrong decisions, or at best, surprising decisions.
A couple of interesting games tonight.
WAS vs NJN: GO WIZARDS!
LAC vs NYK: The Knicks are trailing us more closely than the Clippers are, but having either of them wose will make me happy.
Less interesting: GSW will get whipped at Toronto. Indiana has Houston visiting, and Minny's going to lose at OKC, but they're not competitors anymore.
3-4. GSW/WAS 22-53 .293
5. DET 23-53 .303
6. SAC 24-53 .312
7. PHI 26-50 .342
8. NYK 26-49 .347
9. LAC 27-49 .355
Odds of a top-3 draft pick for remotely possible endings:
4th: 37.8%
5th: 29.2%
6th: 21.5%
7th: 15.0%
8th: 10.0%
(If we were tied with one or more teams, these odds wouldn't apply, but I'll do that math once Detroit, Washington and Golden State all tie with us. :-D)
WAS vs NJN: GO WIZARDS!
LAC vs NYK: The Knicks are trailing us more closely than the Clippers are, but having either of them wose will make me happy.
Less interesting: GSW will get whipped at Toronto. Indiana has Houston visiting, and Minny's going to lose at OKC, but they're not competitors anymore.
3-4. GSW/WAS 22-53 .293
5. DET 23-53 .303
6. SAC 24-53 .312
7. PHI 26-50 .342
8. NYK 26-49 .347
9. LAC 27-49 .355
Odds of a top-3 draft pick for remotely possible endings:
4th: 37.8%
5th: 29.2%
6th: 21.5%
7th: 15.0%
8th: 10.0%
(If we were tied with one or more teams, these odds wouldn't apply, but I'll do that math once Detroit, Washington and Golden State all tie with us. :-D)
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