Casspi or Greene to start? (split from starting 5 thread)

#1
Hey,new member here.
Another israeli disciple of casspi,hope you're not fed up with all of us.
To be honest,i'm actualy a Mavericks fan,but now i consider myself a Kings fan as well so don't hold that against me.

Been lurking here for quite some time,reading what everybody has to say, but when i got to this thread i knew i just had to say something.
It truly boggles me why most of the experienced members here prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up,especialy after casspi's putting up serious stats over the past weeks.

Donte Greene is a HIGHLY overrated defender,and very inconsistent (at best) on offense and with all his 6'11 stature is a terrible terrible rebounder.
He may have potential but right now the man is not line-up quality, not for any team in the league,least of all a team thinking itself worty of a playoff spot.

On the other hand,and i'll try to sound as least of a casspi homer as i can, Omri Casspi is playing some unbelievable basketball.
I'm saying unbelievable mostly because i've seen this man play for quite some time and he upgraded his game by so many notches in such a short period of time,it makes me understand the sky's the limit for this guy.
41 minute outing,back to back,against the #1 team in the league and #2 in the conference with 22.5 ppg,8.5 rpg,3.5 apg on 52% from the field and 70!!!!! % for 3.
That is ROY numbers people,nothing less.
The man flourishes in the line-up and i have to wonder what would have happened if he would have gotten the same amount of playing time and shots per game as Evans from the start.
Not to take anything away from Tyreke,i think he would probably be not only an all-star but a super-star in this league ,but Casspi is playing at a very high level right now (as any player,not just rookies),and to prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up is ridicules.
Gladly Westphal agrees.

On a different note,i've seen alot of people saying Casspi may become as good as ginobili but with not as good ball handlings.
Are you kidding me? Seriously? comparing him to that perennial 6th man?
Right now,they're tied for PPG,in his rookie season!
While Casspi's percentages are among the best in the league.
Not to mention Casspi is a 6'9 slasher while ginobili is only a 6'6 SG.
He is right now,and in time will be much more,efficient than Ginobili.

Casspi is taking huge strides towards greatness and improving his game at an unbelievable rate,and its more likely than not that you have selected two all-stars in the draft so i think its time he would get the respect he deserves on his own teams fan site.
 
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#2
Dontes D might be overrated at times.. but he has shown to be a clutch defender at times and also a lockdown defender at other times... The most amazing part of his Defense is he's only just this season started to work on it and focus on it.

What gets most of us excited about Donte is what we remember of him coming out of college and his 1st year here in sac. So much improvement but that is another thread
 
#3
Donte's defense is not overrated at all. Have you seen the last five or so games. Did you see him guard LeBron, Kobe and Melo? Don't get me wrong, I love Casspi, but Greene is playing very well. It seems that most of the Israeli contingent that have made there way to this site feel the same way as you, think it has anything to do with the fact that you're Israeli?
 

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#4
Donte's defense is not overrated at all. Have you seen the last five or so games. Did you see him guard LeBron, Kobe and Melo? Don't get me wrong, I love Casspi, but Greene is playing very well. It seems that most of the Israeli contingent that have made there way to this site feel the same way as you, think it has anything to do with the fact that you're Israeli?
I think there's a case to be made for Omri to start, especially if he continues to shine the way he has so far. I suspect Westphal will make the right choice, and I also believe our "starting" lineup might change because of matchups. The bottom line isn't who starts, it's who is the most productive with the minutes they earn.

Just as you're saying you think the Israeli just might have some bias towards Omri (and why wouldn't they?), I think some here are biased towards Donte because of his personality, what went on last year, etc.

Personally, I'm incredibly thrilled we're even having this discussion. The Sacramento Kings have a LOT of young talent and we're getting to watch them right from the beginning.
 
#5
I would take Casspi over Greene any day.

His defense isn't that far off from Greene, but he got better offense and rebound than Donte. Donte would be good if you're in a tight game and need to shut down the other team star but other than that, I prefer Casspi on the floor.
 
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Personally, I'm incredibly thrilled we're even having this discussion. The Sacramento Kings have a LOT of young talent and we're getting to watch them right from the beginning.
While progress is good, there is also a potential pitfall of not having too much talent, but having the same amount of talent per indidivudal would create a logjam. We are already seeing this, with a multitude of starters/borderline starters.

Ideally, you want to have a cast of players with definitive skill level such that a pecking order is established.
 

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#7
While progress is good, there is also a potential pitfall of not having too much talent, but having the same amount of talent per indidivudal would create a logjam. We are already seeing this, with a multitude of starters/borderline starters.

Ideally, you want to have a cast of players with definitive skill level such that a pecking order is established.
And that's why we're still "rebuilding" and not "rebuilt"...

I'm going to enjoy watching these kids and let Petrie worry about the logjam. I don't think any of this is coming as a real surprise to him, but that's a topic for another thread.

At this point, I still favor starting Greene and bringing Casspi off the bench because of his energy, intensity and instant spark. And Omri's game doesn't seem to suffer if he's not on the court at tipoff.
 
#8
I think Casspi gets the nod at this point, because of his three point and jump shooting in general. Donte's jumper isn't consistant. He can defend well and is athletic and can get to the basket.

At the 3 spot traditionally you want someoen that can spread the defense.

Even Bruce Bowen who was a great defender could should the 3 reliably.
 
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#9
i was just thinking casspi and donte will end up being really really good.... really good....

but i think that green seems to have the more versatile body, right now and maybe always... he can bang with a little more power and take harder hits....

donte also is more explosive and more athletic it seems...

i think casspi is better right now... and plays more consistent... with such intensity

but greene could be an absolute unstoppable monster if he can ever put it all together....

both guys are awesome and will both better great.... but i think greene has the ability to be amazing.

its a tough question.... i want to invest in greene higher celling but casspi would probably be a safer start and is also so good.

i think the real question is where Garcia fits
 

Bricklayer

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#10
Casspi is the far more finished product, and if this is win now, I start Casspi. But despite Omri's skills, Donte has flashed special at a number of times this season. Not oh I'm a shooter special. Special special. People miss that, and I'm never sure how. I remember having the same discussion about Anthony Randolph. Its just there in big bold neon letters. When you can dominate people physically you have the chance to be special. And so I want to see that potential out there absolutley as much as possible. Omri has a major role on this team going forward for a long time. A shooter who is also tough? That's a rare and precious commodity. So his future is obvious. But Donte...nothing is guaranteed to be sure. But Donte could be a second major physically overpowering defensive minded star. We need to find out, and reasonably quickly before his contract runs out and/or we start getting good enough that we begin to play the "we're trying to compete/no time to develop youth" game. If he is special it changes everything for us. There is beyond no point in having another Gerald Wallace situation when we are still so young and early in the rebuild.
 
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@ Smokey

Just a couple of things: First, welcome to the board! Second, I don't think it's really a big deal at all, but I understand that you may have written that post with that formatting because Hebrew reads from right to left, and Hebrew may have been your native tongue. The people here that you are pitching your case to have been reading left to right their entire lives. It's just odd to see that format in a predominately English forum. You can run with that format if you want to, but it really made that post less powerful. To me, at least.
Hey thx,good to be here... This looks like a solid forum.
I didn't get what you ment about the format though,it's written from left to right...

Donte's defense is not overrated at all. Have you seen the last five or so games. Did you see him guard LeBron, Kobe and Melo? Don't get me wrong, I love Casspi, but Greene is playing very well.
I've seen the lakers game and saw kobe abuse him like he abuses everybody.
I understand you give him alot of credit for making melo take tough shots but the man was on a back to back and played much much worse against dallas the night before,and he still got the 34 point game,so maybe melo is having a bad stretch due to the lack of billups spreading the defense?
You have the misconception that you stop the Kobe/LeBron calibre players via 1 on 1, but its a team effort.
Better defenders than Donte Green have made that conclusion.

Either way,even if the man is the best defender since the dawn of time,you can't have a player so inconsistent he has more bad games than good games in the line-up,you have to earn it.
This is pro ball,you have to show up for each game.
Project type of players come off the bench.

It seems that most of the Israeli contingent that have made there way to this site feel the same way as you, think it has anything to do with the fact that you're Israeli?
Are you saying that all of the ESPN writers and coach Westphal are israelis?
I think i'm more objective than you if you think D.Greene is playing that good a basketball this days.
He's play is very mediocre.
8 points against the lakers with no rebound in 30 minutes.
9 points against dallas with 2 rebounds in 27 minutes.

Again,i do see the potential in this young man and think he could be one hell of a player,someday.
If you want to talk about growth and development,you have a rookie that shoots the lights out of opponents from all ranges while last year he wasn't even described as a good shooter on a european team and made most of his points from hustle plays below the rim,picking up missed shots etc.
Think about what he could be doing next year...
I just think you haven't seen alot of good rookies to understand what you have in your hands,you dont often see this type of numbers from a rookie.
 

6th

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#12
And that's why we're still "rebuilding" and not "rebuilt"...

I'm going to enjoy watching these kids and let Petrie worry about the logjam. I don't think any of this is coming as a real surprise to him, but that's a topic for another thread.

At this point, I still favor starting Greene and bringing Casspi off the bench because of his energy, intensity and instant spark. And Omri's game doesn't seem to suffer if he's not on the court at tipoff.
This is how I feel...for now. Greene has been a lock-down defender (at times) against the best players in the NBA. He seems to be flourishing in that roll. Casspi, on the other hand, is flourishing in the role he is playing.

Coach is getting the best from both players in just the way he is using them. If that changes, I am sure he will change the line-up accordingly. I'll leave that to him since he really seems to know what he is doing.

The last thing I want to do is to see the Coach be so biased toward either man that he can't see where they are best fitting in their roles. He gets the best from both players just the way he is using them. If that changes, I'm sure he will change as well.

I am not biased toward either player. If I had to choose, I would definitely say that I like the way Casspi is playing even better than Donte's game. But that is about personal preference, and nothing more. I like them both and I refuse to pit one player against another.
 
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Casspi is the far more finished product, and if this is win now, I start Casspi. But despite Omri's skills, Donte has flashed special at a number of times this season. Not oh I'm a shooter special. Special special. People miss that, and I'm never sure how. I remember having the same discussion about Anthony Randolph. Its just there in big bold neon letters. When you can dominate people physically you have the chance to be special. And so I want to see that potential out there absolutley as much as possible. Omri has a major role on this team going forward for a long time. A shooter who is also tough? That's a rare and precious commodity. So his future is obvious. But Donte...nothing is guaranteed to be sure. But Donte could be a second major physically overpowering defensive minded star. We need to find out, and reasonably quickly before his contract runs out and/or we start getting good enough that we begin to play the "we're trying to compete/no time to develop youth" game. If he is special it changes everything for us. There is beyond no point in having another Gerald Wallace situation when we are still so young and early in the rebuild.
I agree that Donte has flashed bursts of "special" this year. However Casspi isn't just a shooter. He can go to the whole, he can defend, and he's aggressive.

What's wrong with having someone that is athletic and a defensive specialist coming off the bench, almost splitting time with Casspi. It shouldn't be about "who starts". I like the way Westphal has played strictly to match ups. And how many players know on the team some nights they will start, some they won't.

Donte can't stretch the defense. Casspi can. Which is needed for players like Tyreke, and Kevin when he's back.
 
#15
I don't think it's in the teams best interest to start an Omri/Donte thing. We need both of them to succeed for us to be relevant. Also, I don't think it's fair to understate Donte's defense. On many teams, you might be right, his defense isn't that amazing (amazing at times, but not entirely consistent yet), but for a team as starved for defense as ours is, it's absolutely a breath of fresh air. In the last decade, our teams has been a good defensive squad maybe 2 seasons. That's it. Other than that, we've gotten by with stellar offense and mediocre at best defense, all the while watching champion after champion win it with D (or at least a appropriate combination of O and D). Donte's offensive game, much like Doug's, is quickly becoming secondary to what he can do on the defensive side of the ball. We need that, badly. IF, and it's a big if, Donte can play SG, I'm happy starting him there and starting Omri at the 3. That gives our wings a perfect combination of skills/athleticism/defense/and toughness. It really rounds things out for us.

Also, when you hear Kings fans saying that they envision Omri as a 6th man, don't take that to mean he's the 6th best player on the team. That's rarely the case for championship contenders. We brought Bjax off the bench, and he could have started for ~20 teams in the league. Spurs brought Ginobli off the bench, and he was around their 2nd/3rd best player. Lakers brought Lamar off the bench, and he was their 3rd/4th best player. The reason that Casspi could be such a good 6th man is precisely because of his toughness/passion. He steps on the floor, gets in people's heads, makes some big shots, some improbable defensive stops, and changes the flow of the game. Those are qualities that you want in a 6th man, and remind me a lot of what Bobby Jackson brought to the table years ago.
 

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#16
If I had to choose right now, I would start Casspi. Simply because he's been the most consistant. He may be the most consistant player on the Kings overall. I'm trying to remember his having a bad game, and I can't. But I'm sure there must have been one. Anyway, I don't really think it matters who starts. For the moment I think I would go with whomever I think matches up the best.

But lets be honest here. Casspi is playing at a pretty high level. Its almost at a point where he's becoming the player that stops the bleeding, or hits the big shot that picks the team up. Now Greene has also done that. Just not as often or as consistantly. Defensively they both have played very well at times. But to be fair and honest to both of them, they both have been asked to guard players out of their natural position, which puts them at a disadvantage. To say that Kobe had his way with Greene at times is meaningless. Who the hell doesn't he have his way with?

Its a nice problem to have. And whichever player eventually wins the starting position, the other will have a legit shot at the sixth man award.
 
#17
Correct me if i'm wrong, but when Martin and Garcia will be back aren't they suppose to start at the 2 and 3 positions? if this is the case then both Casspi and Greene won't start.

Until that will happen, Westphal already answered the question, he's starting with Casspi for the last month, also i think what matters more is with which players you finish the game then who you start with, and during clutch times and final minutes you always see Casspi on the court, I've seen all of the Kings games this season(which is a big thing since they are at 5am here) and Casspi is always on court at the final 1.5-2 minutes of the half or full time, even in the game against Chicago when he had a bad game(answering bajaden question when he had a bad game) Westphal put Casspi on the court for the final play.
 

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Hey thx,good to be here... This looks like a solid forum.
I didn't get what you ment about the format though,it's written from left to right...
He was talking about the page justification. You had it right justified instead of left justified. Using my magical mystery moderator powers, I fixed it for you...which is why ryanandty edited his comments. The part you've quoted above no longer exists.

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#19
Casspi is the far more finished product, and if this is win now, I start Casspi. But despite Omri's skills, Donte has flashed special at a number of times this season. Not oh I'm a shooter special. Special special. People miss that, and I'm never sure how. I remember having the same discussion about Anthony Randolph. Its just there in big bold neon letters. When you can dominate people physically you have the chance to be special. And so I want to see that potential out there absolutley as much as possible. Omri has a major role on this team going forward for a long time. A shooter who is also tough? That's a rare and precious commodity. So his future is obvious. But Donte...nothing is guaranteed to be sure. But Donte could be a second major physically overpowering defensive minded star. We need to find out, and reasonably quickly before his contract runs out and/or we start getting good enough that we begin to play the "we're trying to compete/no time to develop youth" game. If he is special it changes everything for us. There is beyond no point in having another Gerald Wallace situation when we are still so young and early in the rebuild.
I think people just do not realize he's just about the same size as Webber was, minus the upper body development. In the 2002 media guide, Webb is listed as 6'10", 245. On the Kings.com website, Greene is listed this year as 6'11", 226.

Am I comparing Greene to Webber? No, not exactly. But what I am saying is that he's a legitimate big and yet I rarely see him referred to in that way. I think Petrie knew it, however, when he made sure Greene was included in the Houston deal...
 

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#20
Correct me if i'm wrong, but when Martin and Garcia will be back aren't they suppose to start at the 2 and 3 positions? if this is the case then both Casspi and Greene won't start.
Westphal has made it clear that he's not locked into anyone starting at any position. At this point, while I honestly think Martin will start again once he's back in the flow, I'm fairly sure the starter at the 3 may be a lot more flexible.
 
#21
I think Casspi has earned the starting spot, though I also think he's an ideal 6th man type. I really hope Donte can play the 2, because I'd love to see Evans, Donte, and Casspi as our 123 for the future. Not sure JT is a starting 4/5 on a deep playoff team, but his improvement year to year has been great. Too bad we couldn't put Omar's spirit into the big guy Hawes. That's who I really want to see playing with such force.
 

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#22
Correct me if i'm wrong, but when Martin and Garcia will be back aren't they suppose to start at the 2 and 3 positions? if this is the case then both Casspi and Greene won't start.
It's pretty safe to say Martin will start at the 2 once he's back and in the swing of things. Garcia...I don't know. I wouldn't say he has the starting 3 locked up - Casspi and Greene are definitely in the mix for that.
 
#23
Either way, having too many good players is a wonderful problem... Casspi, 6'9'' that can play as SG, Greene, 6'11'' that can play as SF, Evans, 220 lbs that play as PG.

Man, the potential of this team to exploit mismatches is incredible! :eek:
 

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#24
Casspi, 6'9'' that can play as SG, Greene, 6'11'' that can play as SF, Evans, 220 lbs that play as PG.

Man, the potential of this team to exploit mismatches is incredible! :eek:
I totally agree... with the addition of Paul Westphal as a coach who is clearly willing to move players to properly take advantage of those mismatches.

:)
 

Kingster

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#25
Hey,new member here.
Another israeli disciple of casspi,hope you're not fed up with all of us.
To be honest,i'm actualy a Mavericks fan,but now i consider myself a Kings fan as well so don't hold that against me.

Been lurking here for quite some time,reading what everybody has to say, but when i got to this thread i knew i just had to say something.
It truly boggles me why most of the experienced members here prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up,especialy after casspi's putting up serious stats over the past weeks.

Donte Greene is a HIGHLY overrated defender,and very inconsistent (at best) on offense and with all his 6'11 stature is a terrible terrible rebounder.
He may have potential but right now the man is not line-up quality, not for any team in the league,least of all a team thinking itself worty of a playoff spot.

On the other hand,and i'll try to sound as least of a casspi homer as i can, Omri Casspi is playing some unbelievable basketball.
I'm saying unbelievable mostly because i've seen this man play for quite some time and he upgraded his game by so many notches in such a short period of time,it makes me understand the sky's the limit for this guy.
41 minute outing,back to back,against the #1 team in the league and #2 in the conference with 22.5 ppg,8.5 rpg,3.5 apg on 52% from the field and 70!!!!! % for 3.
That is ROY numbers people,nothing less.
The man flourishes in the line-up and i have to wonder what would have happened if he would have gotten the same amount of playing time and shots per game as Evans from the start.
Not to take anything away from Tyreke,i think he would probably be not only an all-star but a super-star in this league ,but Casspi is playing at a very high level right now (as any player,not just rookies),and to prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up is ridicules.
Gladly Westphal agrees.

On a different note,i've seen alot of people saying Casspi may become as good as ginobili but with not as good ball handlings.
Are you kidding me? Seriously? comparing him to that perennial 6th man?
Right now,they're tied for PPG,in his rookie season!
While Casspi's percentages are among the best in the league.
Not to mention Casspi is a 6'9 slasher while ginobili is only a 6'6 SG.
He is right now,and in time will be much more,efficient than Ginobili.

Casspi is taking huge strides towards greatness and improving his game at an unbelievable rate,and its more likely than not that you have selected two all-stars in the draft so i think its time he would get the respect he deserves on his own teams fan site.
You haven't been watching if you think Greene is highly overated as a defender. He'd have to be rated on the All-Defense team to be overated. (Yeah, he's not that good - yet). For a youngster, he's outstanding, and will only get better and better. Certainly he's better than Casspi on defense, and I like Casspi. When you talk about rebounding, you have to realize that he's playing a two-guard position, which he's not used to. He finds himself outside a lot more than inside, and so he's at a disadvantage because of that, but also just needs to get a better feel for when to go for rebounds and when to take off. He definitely has excellent offensive rebounding talent. That is only going to get better. Greene is learning a new position now. Casspi isn't. That must be considered when evaluating them. (Someone may correct me on this, but I haven't seen Casspi play much of the two-guard). Personally, I want both of them to get a ton of pt. I'd rather have Noc get less pt.
 
#26
Hey,new member here.
Another israeli disciple of casspi,hope you're not fed up with all of us.
To be honest,i'm actualy a Mavericks fan,but now i consider myself a Kings fan as well so don't hold that against me.

Been lurking here for quite some time,reading what everybody has to say, but when i got to this thread i knew i just had to say something.
It truly boggles me why most of the experienced members here prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up,especialy after casspi's putting up serious stats over the past weeks.

Donte Greene is a HIGHLY overrated defender,and very inconsistent (at best) on offense and with all his 6'11 stature is a terrible terrible rebounder.
He may have potential but right now the man is not line-up quality, not for any team in the league,least of all a team thinking itself worty of a playoff spot.

On the other hand,and i'll try to sound as least of a casspi homer as i can, Omri Casspi is playing some unbelievable basketball.
I'm saying unbelievable mostly because i've seen this man play for quite some time and he upgraded his game by so many notches in such a short period of time,it makes me understand the sky's the limit for this guy.
41 minute outing,back to back,against the #1 team in the league and #2 in the conference with 22.5 ppg,8.5 rpg,3.5 apg on 52% from the field and 70!!!!! % for 3.
That is ROY numbers people,nothing less.
The man flourishes in the line-up and i have to wonder what would have happened if he would have gotten the same amount of playing time and shots per game as Evans from the start.
Not to take anything away from Tyreke,i think he would probably be not only an all-star but a super-star in this league ,but Casspi is playing at a very high level right now (as any player,not just rookies),and to prefer Greene over Casspi in the line-up is ridicules.
Gladly Westphal agrees.

On a different note,i've seen alot of people saying Casspi may become as good as ginobili but with not as good ball handlings.
Are you kidding me? Seriously? comparing him to that perennial 6th man?
Right now,they're tied for PPG,in his rookie season!
While Casspi's percentages are among the best in the league.
Not to mention Casspi is a 6'9 slasher while ginobili is only a 6'6 SG.
He is right now,and in time will be much more,efficient than Ginobili.


Casspi is taking huge strides towards greatness and improving his game at an unbelievable rate,and its more likely than not that you have selected two all-stars in the draft so i think its time he would get the respect he deserves on his own teams fan site.
I love Omri as much as the next Kings fan and as biased as the next Israeli, but bro...lets not get carried away.

Manu is:
-6th man by Pop's design
-Former All star and 6th man
-Euroleague Champ and MVP - main reason kinder won
- 3 time NBA Champ
- Olympic gold medalist and tournament MVP - main reason for win (including semi-final win over US)
His ball handling skills, craftiness and ferociousness in getting in the lane translated to NBA titles.

Let's not kid ourselves, maybe Omri can be better (and not winning as much does not mean he didn't end up being better), but Omri would sign right here and right now to have Manu's career.

The fact right now the stat line is close does not mean much. Manu is past his prime and gone through some injuries. Omri on paper can be better, but I am against diminishing accomplishments of someone proven. Ginobili's contributions meant Ws at every level.
 
#27
With Kevin still out, I love seeing Donte at the 2, and Omri at the 3

So they both start for now

If one of the positions are bumped by Cisco, I prefer Omri Starting


When Kevin eventually claims the starting 2 spot, I think I prefer Donte or Cisco as the starting 3 because of their height, athletic ability, and defensive abilities. Omri is a great offensive player on a consistant basis, drifts to the 3 pt line, that great quick release 3 pt shot, gotta love him. but with Kevin and Cisco/Donte at the 3, we need him more off the bench.

Wow and then we have Nocioni in the mix, remember the Good Cisco/Bad Cisco? Well we have seen a lot of Good Noce/Bad Noce this year too. this is where you need the coach to scrutinize both players in practice and during the game to have the Good Cisco/Noce out on the floor.

But with Kevin and Tyreke starting, I would prefer to have Omri's firepower off the bench, Still major minutes, just our big weapon off the bench at the 3.

Again matchups come into play, if other team has a beast at the starting 3, I want Donte to start at the 3.

Good problem to have 5 players, 2 positions (oh yeah left Ime out of equation on purpose with Kevin/Cisco back he is back to insurance player status or maybe 5 min in key defensive situations)
 
#28
On a different note,i've seen alot of people saying Casspi may become as good as ginobili but with not as good ball handlings.
Are you kidding me? Seriously? comparing him to that perennial 6th man?
What's wrong?
BTW I hate Manu's flopping other than that I thought that was an honor for Casspi to be compared with him.
 
#29
What's wrong?

He's already as good if not better than ginobili. The only question, as with all rookies, is that can he continue throughout the season. A few weeks is good data but a season would be better.

If anything Casspi can still get better...becasue he's only 21.
 
#30
I'm Israeli and I love Donte, besides being very athletic and a good defender, he's a supportive guy, you can always see him cheers for Omri and Tyreke, he knows team basketball, he's very talented.. damn almost every guy in this team can be an important player in this league (Martin, Evans, Casspi, Garcia, Brockman, hawes, Donte, JT.. I can keep writing more names.. but everybody got so much potential!!)