Grades v. Lakers 01/01/10

Goat of the game?

  • Jason Thompson

    Votes: 20 25.0%
  • Ime Udoka

    Votes: 36 45.0%
  • Sergio Rodriguez

    Votes: 14 17.5%
  • Andres Nocioni

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • Paul Westphal (for that unfortunate timeout).

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Total voters
    80
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
Alright folks, put away the sharp objects. One regular season game, without our best player(s), at the very dawn of a new era for us, remember? Game 7 of the WCF this was not. We'll live. And yes sooner rather than later we'll get those stinks.

Alright, this is the Lakers feed for the game, with a bunch of different angles:
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1) pause it 3 seconds in -- its really not an elbow, that still shot is deceptive. What it really is though is a moving screen. Intentional collision set up, and then Kobe knowing how to use that momentum to go get free. We misplayed that thoguh -- I know you want to pressure the passer, but Udoka is wasted trying to smother Pau at the 3pt line, and too short to do so. The pick of course seperates Sergio from Vujacic, which was his man, and Kenny gets worried about Vujacic cutting for the tie and so falls back under the hoop rather than running at Kobe. Frankly I think you need BOTH Udoka leaving Pau to run at Kobe and KT leaving Vujacic to run at Kobe (with Casspi rotating down to disrupt any Vujacic layup attempt). Then if Pau wants to hit a three, or Sashs wants to tioe it wiht a contested layup over a flying Casspi, or Casspi's man (Morrison?) wants to beat us from the other side, so be it. But just don't let Kobe do it.

2) at the 53-54 second mark on the replay of Kobe's shot watch Westphal's eyes -- he's standing directly behind Kobe, a foot or two away, and looking directly down at his feet (which actually shows real presence of mind). Best view in the house (none of the other angles were definitive, and the Lakers announcers blathered on about whether he got the shot off in time without ever specifically looking at his heel). Refs apparently reviewed the heel question and said he was in. You can see when he catches the ball he is clearly in -- he's clearly up on his toes. But as he drops down into a stance to launch the shot...well only Paul knows, and if he didn't lodge a complaint from 2 feet away I'm going to have to assume there was space there.


Starters:

Casspi ( A- ) -- and yet another 20pt outing -- Omri's last 5 games? 17.6pts 7.4rebs 2.0ast on .477 shooting. Was fierce from the start in this one, and I think taunting Lakers fans with almost every shot. May have been overhyped to start, as he forced a shot into Bynum's chest and was blocked and missed his first few shots before starting to roll. But he was helping on the glass from the very beginning and had a good pass on the break to Donte for the dunk. Then started hitting everything and closed the first quarter with an emphatic dunk at the buzzer. Just had all kinds of energy and picked up a technical foul in mid 2nd as we went up 20. I thought it was for exceessive yapping, but then maybe it turned out to be about a no call? In any case, technical #2 this season for Omri, and I know he was shocked when he got the first one, but I am thinking as on edge as he plays emptionally he will pick up quite a few over his career. Whihc is generally ok, but this time that technical seemd to really hurt us as it broke moemnetum and sent the Lakers off on a minirun to chop it back down to 14. Made some sloppy plays in the early 3rd as the Lakers stormed back, and kept on doubling off of Odom to go after Kobe which Lamr took advanatge of to hurt us. Stepped back up to hit a huge contested three to close the third and push our lead back out to 7. Involved in back to back fastbreak turnovers that kept us from getting out to the safe lead, but stepped up to hit another huge three to put us up 2 with 1:00 to go. The best term for this game just really was "fierce". Wanted to compete, hit big shots, yapped at the crowd. I've got a few quibbles but no complaints on this one.

Thompson ( F ) -- wow JT, really? Tried to post Bynum, got blocked by about three lakers, sat fairly quickly, and with Hawes playing so well, and Donte and Casspi rolling, just forgotten about for about 12 minutes. Came out in the third and immediately threw a TO. Followed that with an offensive foul and back to back missed jumpers, and was huting us. Picked up his 4th foul on an offensive foul and took about a half hour to slouch over to the bench. Came up with his lone bright point of the night with back to back offensive rebounds to start the 4th that gave us an eventual hoop. Then got fouled, but predictably missed both FTs. Got powered threw by both Bynum and Pau in the post. Fouled out with 40 seconds to go on a terrible call -- the ole NBA the offensive player is always right tripping call -- that let the Lakers tie the game. That one wasn't his fault. But the rest...you can't have your best big just disintegrate in the face of a big frontline.

Hawes ( A+ ) -- well one good thing came out of this game -- we discovered that we are now set at center for the next 15 years -- Spencer Hawes, benched a few weeks ago for consistent wussiness, is now averaging 30pts 11rebs 4ast this decade, which I'm pretty sure would land him in the hall of fame. Of course he has always played some of his best ball against Bynum, and Bynum some of his worst against us -- one of he reasons why I think that Kings fans hold Bynum in lower standing than maybe any other fanbase. In any case, after careful observation it has become clear that the Kings have only alimited amnount of big man mojo to spend per game. And if one guy is going to play great, there is an unwritten law of the universe that the other guy is going to suck eggs. tonight it was Spencer's time to shine, and how, whiel JTY sat in the corner suckign the eggs. Started right from the beginning of this one with a backdoor pass to Beno, and it still seems like we break out more of the Princeton out of nostalgia against the Lakers than we do with any other team. Did make one terrible play in there when he decided to grab a d-board and lead the break ala JT -- ended up similar ot most of JTs forays as it resulted in a real ugly turnover on a strange pass...thing. You would have had to have seen it. Actually, better for you if you did not. Recovered though with a nice alley oop pass to Casspi -- in the early going much of his impact was with passing, but as he started to feel his offense he became more and more aggressive with it. Nice post move on Odom in late first. Nice up fake and stormed the paint for the dunk to put us up 7 in the early 2nd. Followed with a jumper and was the key player in pushing us out to a 38-23 lead. Had 10pts 5rebs 4ast midway through the second quarter. Canned a three. Should be noted Bynum was scoring back the other way inside but this was pretty onesided in terms of impact. Even played some defense at times, and forced Bynum and Gasol once each to loose control of shots, catch their own, and turn it over. The third quarter was a bit of an adventure, but he remained extremely involved. Threw up a wild hook and missed his first two shots in 3rd, one inside and one out. Came up with a good anticipation steal on Kobe in the mid third, but followed it with a post move where his lack of physical strength was obvious and had him off balance for the entire sequence before thorwing up something wild. Settled in and back to back hoops in the mid 3rd, one a jumper, one up and under, then a three. Then missed a three and turned it over trying to feed KT under the hoop -- always a dicey decision. Big down the stretch as well -- hit a jumper to tie us back up at the 4:20 mark, and then canned a huge three at the 3:00 mark to give us back the lead, then a second three to put us up 4 with his 30th point. Unable to stop Gasol though at the 1:15 mark as Gasol got the continuation to put the Lakers back up 1, and somewhat disappointingly wasn't even on the floor to try to cloe things out on that final play -- of course because his defense still sucks, but after what was easily his career night it would have been ncie to see him finish it off. So like I say, 30pts 11reb 4ast a game so far this decade, and its clear we have a new David Robinson in his prime. Along with reke, Donte and Casspi, we are just about set baby!
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Greene ( B- ) -- for the first 2 1/2 quarters of this one, even as Casspi and Spencer and Beno all went off, Donte was just as important to our success and the build up of the big lead. Because while they were all providing offesnive fireworks, Donte was the primary guy assigned to hold down Kobe Bryant. And hold down Kobe he did...for 2 1/2 quarters. Really why I called him a SG this time, because of course he was guarding Kobe and has now quickly evolved into our defensive stopper taking the toughest defensive matchup every night. Contributed a little offense as well early -- in fact looked good on both ends of the floor in the early going before seemingly shutting down the offense and not even looking at the hoop so as to focuse on locking in on Kobe. Had a dunk on the break courtesy of Casspi. An amazing off balance finish on the drive. And was enough into Kobe's head that Kobe tried to shake him and show him up...and failed. In fact generally in the early going Donte > Kobe and held Kobe to 2pts on 1-5 shooting in the first quarter. Of course that also means that Kobe had 37pts on 12-22 shooting in the last 3 quarters, and Donte lost contorl of him somehwere in the mid third, about the time he made the mistake of leaving him open for a couple of jumpers. Kobe started stroking them, and soon he was hitting absolutely everything from out there as only he can. Of course much of that was no longer against Donte because foul trouble crept inot his game and kept him in and out of the linuep, and out of any rhythm, before he finally fouled out on a touch foul trying to get closer to Kobe's jumper and (maybe) ticking him on the elbow. Sure would have been nice to see his 6'11" length in there to challenge Kobe's look on that final play instead of Sergio. So going wiht a greade here considerably in excess of the relatively empty statline. 8pts 0reb 1ast? Think Donte got so focused on Kobe he kind of forgot the rest of this game. But for a while that worked.

Udrih ( A ) -- missed his first shot and briefly I was worried if his poor shooting was going to carry over from the other night. I should not have been. Drew the continuation foul on Fisher. Got out in the open court to close the first quarter and dished to Caspi for the dunk. Finished the first quarter with 5pts 6ast and the offense was humming. Seems like he always plays well down in Staples. After Sergio did a good job running the team for the first 2/3 of the 2nd, Beno came back in in the later part of the period to can a three to put us back up 19. Then after a pair of Kobe FTs, drove back inside for another continuation to put us back up 20. Started the third a little slow, and a bad play resulting in a turnover and foul had us in danger as the lead had dwindled to 6 by that point in the third. But along with Spencer woke up in the middle 3rd and we stubbornly hung in there to the bitter end. Almost came up with the game winner for us on a beautiful spinning drive to give us the lead at the 30 second mark. All we needed to do was hit some FTs...play some defense...just anything at that point. But was not to be. Aside from the timely shooting, finished this one with a career-high 13 assists. I'm going to differentiate this form Spencer's clear career game by going A, while Spencer got the A+, but this was a heck of a game too.

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Udoka ( B- ) -- played a strong game for us in ways that he is not normally strong (offense), an indifferent one for us in ways that he normally is strong (defense). And then had a disaster rihgt at the very end that opened the door for our loss. Hit a side jumper at the end of the first, then a solid post score. Canned a three to briefly put us up 20 in the 2nd. Nice up and under move in the paint in the early 4th. Then grabbed the o-board off the Thompson missed FTs and laid it in. All of this was good. Unfortunately the other way started to go bad -- Donte in foul tourble Ime increasingly took over the guard Kobe load, and Kobe increasingly heated up. Ime's a good defender, but poses no particualr length or ahtleticism problems for Kobe -- nothing to disrupt him. And then in the unfortunarte capper that will be the lasting memory of this one, Udoka was intentionally fouled at the 5 second mark with us up 2. Got tight. And choked them both, thus opening the door to make Kobe a hero one more time. Nothing for it. Just a flat out choke job. Thing is, the sad part about it was that so bad is our FT shooting wasteland that we had intentionally put IMe in as one of our "shooters". this from a guy who's only a career .711 shooter. But other than Beno, who among the active Kings tonight would you rather have take them at this point? And we couldn't get it to Beno. So there it was. That was the game. Not involved on the last play for Kobe as for some strange reason he ended up guarding Gasol up high above the 3pt line.

Rodriguez ( C ) -- not much passing in the early going, but was getting to the hoop either with the ball or on cuts. And then was the PG in there when we went on our big run to break it open in the early 2nd. Hit a big three in the early 4th to make it 8, but then got overexcited agian and threw a terrible pass ahead on the fast break over Casspi's head. Then pulled up for a quick and very dumb airball three pt attempt off the dribble. Why? Just made no sense. Was gone quickly, but got a chance to redeem himself when he was back in at the 4:00 mark when Donte fouled out. But redemption was not the storyline as he started by getting a pass tipepd up top that led to a 24second violation, then dribbled in and blew the open layup at the 1:30 mark, and finally got to be on a Kobe Bryant poster as Kobe collided with him on the final play, knocked him off balance, and then faded out for the game winning three while Sergio tried to stumble back into it. Not really going to blame Sergio on that one, although a bigger and better defender might have been able to recover or anticipate there, and there IS the real possibility that that was a very stupid attempt to flop, again not recognizing that they are not going to call a flop there. But in any case, to whatever degree this grade got knocked down after a pretty good start however, it was for the series of errors earlier nthe 4th, not the defensive breakdown at the end.

Brockman ( INC ) -- lack of verticality was a bit problematic against the Lskers again, and minutes were limited

Nocioni ( D ) -- in the game for the first time to close the 2nd and immediately got he ball stripped on the drive for a TO. Tried to gun us out of it in the late 2nd repeatedly bombing bricks from downtown. Did get one forced running hook to go. Got called for an illegal screen on a Fisher semi-flop as we once again blew the end of the half play and gave the Lakers a chance to score the other way (fortunately Fisher bricked the three at the buzzer). Continued his efforts to chuck us out of the game with bricked three after bricked three in the early 4th. Has he forgotten how to do anything else? Had the big game a couple of nights ago, and now is back to just coming in to chuck.

Thomas ( C- ) -- in for the first time for JT in the 3rd, scored on a cut to the hoop but otherwise got a lot of minutes wiht JT ineffective and in foul toruble, but did little with them. And I think on the final play, Kenny blew it. The Lakers ran a pick with Kenny's man (Kobe!) to free Sergio's man (Vujacic), and so Kenny took Vujacic as he slashed toward the hoop. But with Sergio stumbling and out of the play it looked more than a little silly for Kenny to be pointing at Kobe while simultaneously backpedaling to rebound away from a HOF player squaring up for the wide open three. You run toward those guys. Not away.

Notes: should be noted that there was one more play to sink us. Just before the inbounds play that saw Ime get fouled and go to the line to choke, we had been trying to run an inbounds play form the side down near our hoop. The Lakers were smothering everything, and it looked like there was a real danger we were going to get the 5 seconds violation. So Westphal calls a quick timeout...just as Spencer pops wide open running down the court toward the Lakers hoop. Beno saw him and the ball was already in the air and headed toward Spencer for the sealing dunk as trhe whistles blew for the timeout. So Coach gets a little ahnd in this one too.
 
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Kobe A+ lol
I'm not sad about this loss, it's kobe, you can't do anything against it
no coach will rether foul on this situation so you got to count on your defense, maybe teams will start to foul from now on against kobe lol, he's really the clutchest player of the last 10 years, simply amazing.

great game by the Kings, they really played well.
Udoka probably very depressed right now but you can't blame him or nobody else, things like this happened and it was a great game for all of the Kings, casspi and hawes were shining
 
#8
You can't put the whole loss on one guy, be it Ime or Sergio.
Yes, Ime should have hit those FTs, and yes, maybe Sergio should have done a better job on the last possession, but you win as a team, and you lose as a team...
 
#9
Ime should have made at least ONE of those... only thing im pissed about is Kobe being WIDE ****ING OPEN on that last shot. I could accept it if there was a hand in his face, but not wide open:mad: Being a Kings fan is way too painful...but damn i still love em!
 

Larry89

Disgruntled Kings Fan
#10
can't wait till the Lakers are on the down and Kings are filling staples center as the Kings put a asswhooping on the Lakers
 
#12
Sergio didn't have his best game - by far. Missing that layup was painful. Bad call on JT when he fouled out (phantom foul) and those two missed FTs were hard to watch. The pain this season is intense.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#15
I liked the fact that the Lakers "fans" acted like the Lakers had won every single championship, cured AIDS, and given each of them a million dollars at the end of the game after two hours of silence.

Despite the fact we're missing three of our best players (and our three most clutch ones at that and who can all handle the ball), we took the Lakers down to the wire and forced them to resort to their bffs to bail them out with phantom calls.

I apologize to Spencer Hawes as his waffleness suddenly turned into spicy Tabasco. What a game from him (though he still gave up too many rebounds at the end of the game).

Donte did a pretty good job defending Kobe and one has to wonder what would have happened had he been on the floor on the final play.

Casspi was his usual self, playing recklessly out of control at times, but still displaying the heart and prowess that make him special.

JT, however, suddenly devolved into Mikki Moore but still managed to do more than Noce. It's gotten to the point where I cringe whenever he enters the game. Yes, Noce has become the nails on the Kings chalkboard.
 
#16
Sacramento Kings should won this game.They played team basketball, and they really helped each other on defensive end.
But in the end Kobe won the game for the Lakers.
I gotta tell ya, I like this team, they play good basketball and you can see chemistry that is needed for wining games.
I really hope that the players see play offs. They deserve it.

Players of the game: Spencer Hawes, Beno Udrih.

Udrih did what any other point guard would do. Kept feeding the hottest shooter on the field, and Spencer said thanks hitting them.

Very god game. Good luck to all of ya in 2010:)
Reply, if you want:)
 
#18
That was frustrating. Seriously, how do you miss both FT's there Udoka? JT...zero points? Kobe wide open for three at the buzzer?

Spencer played great. I'm okay with him taking threes as PART of his offensive game, as long as he has the inside game going as well. Overall, we're without our 2 best players, and we took the best team in the league to the final seconds on their home floor. We don't need to win them this season, so I guess I can swallow this loss.
 
#19
JT is a head case. He completely meltsdown when things aren't going quite right - then things go completely to Hell. He needs some man-training.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#21
Man, how big a muff was that timeout at the end? I mean, I appreciate the idea behind what Westphal was trying to prevent, but if he doesn't call that timeout, it doesn't come down to free throws.
 
#22
Kobe definitely pushed off Sergio, which is unfortunate because Kobe's star power and the fact that refs normally don't call offensive fouls in crunchtime overrode blowing their whistles. But still, I thought Westphal would set up a plan to double team Kobe and dare someone else to beat us. FYI in the early going when we got our huge lead I thought Greene's defense on Kobe was excellent--maybe it was just Kobe going through the motions or w/e, but Kobe wasn't doing much at all. Greene's height, mobility and length are huge assets--yes he fouled out and he wasn't that involved in the proceedings offensively, but still thought it was a good job.

Casspi has definite fire and impressed. Just knows how to pick his spots well and has a natural competitiveness to him. Great complementary guy and secondary scorer if need be (as he was tonight to Hawes). Does a lot of things without the ball in his hands.

JT is absolutely atrocious defensively. He has no idea how to get proper base--he just gets backed down by his man so easily and either hacks or relinquishes a layup close to the basket. Happened with Bynum and Gasol numerous times today. Came in averaging 15.3 points per game, and tonight? 0. Zero impact. And their frontcourt shot 24-35. Ackkk.
 
#23
As far as Rodriguez being 6'3 - no way. The Kings list him at 6'3 / 176. I believe the 176 lbs. They also list Udrih 6'3 / 205. Beno looks at least one full inch taller than Sergio and obviously a lot more built.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#24
If I'm upset about anything, I think it's the call against JT when Shannon Browne stepped down on JT's foot, stumbled and JT did everything but levitate to get out of his way and was still called for the foul. It's those kinds of ridiculous fouls that break my heart because the Kings did absolutely NOTHING to deserve it.

The rest I can live with, even though the favoritism shown to Kobe and Gasol, both of whom seem to be able to draw fouls from their own personal banks any time they wish, has gotten beyond old.

The Lakers played their best...and almost lost to us AGAIN. It won't be much longer before we win one of these and then another one.
 

Larry89

Disgruntled Kings Fan
#26
The kings have most of the pieces to the puzzle, only missing a few pieces, but the picture is identifiable and nearly complete.

Just need to fit those pieces together correctly and they will be a complete team..
 
#27
OK, I just got back home, and unfortunately didn't get to watch the game, but I just saw Kobe's last shot, and I have two questions:

1. It really looked like Kobe football-tackled sergio. Is that really legal?
2. Is it just me, or did Kobe step out of bounds before he took the shot?
 
#28
OK, I just got back home, and unfortunately didn't get to watch the game, but I just saw Kobe's last shot, and I have two questions:

1. It really looked like Kobe football-tackled sergio. Is that really legal?
2. Is it just me, or did Kobe step out of bounds before he took the shot?
1. It's legal if your initials happen to be K.B. and you're wearing number 24.
2. It's not just you.
 
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