The European Soccer(Football) Thread (merged)

Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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BritishColumbia said:
I do not think that Arsenal is ready to win the crown again. They got Arshavin and he looks like a steal for 15M but they need at least 3 more very good players. At least one solid defender and DM.

Chelsea is a good franchise; they are not losers anymore. They had some struggles after Mourinho left them but I think now they will be solid again.
I know that we have many friends from Israel but let's be honest :), Grant is not for Chelsea or any super club. I think he is a decent coach but he is not that super good. Grant got that job because he has powerful friends in Russian football and they connected him with Roman Abramovich, so he became an administrative manager and later, a head coach (I read it somewhere). He did a good job in CL but it is very hard for an international coach with no success as a player or coach in big leagues to motivate and press players if needed. I just hope that Anchelotti (I hope it is a right spelling:)) will make a good transition to EPL. Is his English solid? I am not a fan of Chelsea but I do not hate them either. I do not even hate Tottenham ))) The only team I strongly dislike is MU (sorry about that) )))
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Out of curiousity, why do you hate United? I know the media is very anti-Manchester, but this is a club rich in tradition and very classy. Liverpool are a club to be hated. Terribly deluded supporters, and play terrible football. Chelsea and Man City are nothing more than money clubs. Players go to them to get paid, not to wear the shirt.
 
FromIsrael

FromIsrael

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Dime Dropper said:
Out of curiousity, why do you hate United? I know the media is very anti-Manchester, but this is a club rich in tradition and very classy. Liverpool are a club to be hated. Terribly deluded supporters, and play terrible football. Chelsea and Man City are nothing more than money clubs. Players go to them to get paid, not to wear the shirt.
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im 100% with you.. chelsea is nothing near arsenal livepool and manchester.. their just a money club with no past
 
xyrin

xyrin

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As an American, it's difficult to be a football fan sometimes. Few, if any, of my friends watch the beautiful game, and its very difficult to be able to even watch the game. The MLS is very poor quality and EPL games are on at 6 AM in the morning usually... it just doesn't work out well.

I'm a huge Liverpool supporter, Steven Gerrard is definitely my favorite player in the world.
 
Heuge

Heuge

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I really enjoyed watching USA soccer as they almost won the final.

But I would still rather watch a November Kings game then that.
 
xyrin

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Football (soccer) is my favorite sport... so the Kings would definitely shift to my second favorite if a team was near Sacramento. I really don't think Americans appreciate the game enough, maybe its from the culture. Americans seem to really enjoy fast paced action and high scoring games, which soccer doesn't seem to offer all the time. Moreso than even hockey, a great deal of teamwork and ability needs to come together just to lead up to a single goal, and the final outcome of that is something to celebrate. Points in basketball almost become worthless because the amount scored.

I love basketball, but soccer just seems like the game where much more teamwork, athleticism and talent is required.
 
sterö

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xyrin said:
As an American, it's difficult to be a football fan sometimes. Few, if any, of my friends watch the beautiful game, and its very difficult to be able to even watch the game. The MLS is very poor quality and EPL games are on at 6 AM in the morning usually... it just doesn't work out well.

I'm a huge Liverpool supporter, Steven Gerrard is definitely my favorite player in the world.
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I know your situation.
It´s hard to be a basketballfan in Austria. :(
Everybody is just completely into soccer.
 
BritishColumbia

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Dime Dropper said:
Out of curiousity, why do you hate United? I know the media is very anti-Manchester, but this is a club rich in tradition and very classy. Liverpool are a club to be hated. Terribly deluded supporters, and play terrible football. Chelsea and Man City are nothing more than money clubs. Players go to them to get paid, not to wear the shirt.
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I am an Arsenal fan and probably MU is not our worst enemy (Tott is) but I have never liked Back and Ronaldo. Both are huge irritating prima donnas and both were faces of MU. Plus, Sir talks too much sometimes.
Do I have respect for their program? Yes, I do ... just no love or admiration.

Talking about Chelsea, I think it is a little bit unfair to criticize them for money spending. Yes, Abramovich has invested inconceivable amount of money but that was only the choice. Before him, Chelsea were just a nice club from bohemian neighborhood with no charisma. Abramovich wanted this club to become successful and he had to spend so much money. It was the only way. They even did not have a normal training complex in London. Chelsea is a much better club now than 10 years ago. Give them 5-8 more years and they will get that superclub image and will not have to spend so much money to attract players.
 
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Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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BritishColumbia said:
I am an Arsenal fan and probably MU is not our worst enemy (Tott is) but I have never liked Back and Ronaldo. Both are huge irritating prima donnas and both were faces of MU. Plus, Sir talks too much sometimes.
Do I have respect for their program? Yes, I do ... just no love or admiration.

Talking about Chelsea, I think it is a little bit unfair to criticize them for money spending. Yes, Abramovich has invested inconceivable amount of money but that was only the choice. Before him, Chelsea were just a nice club from bohemian neighborhood with no charisma. Abramovich wanted this club to become successful and he had to spend so much money. It was the only way. They even did not have a normal training complex in London. Chelsea is a much better club now than 10 years ago. Give them 5-8 more years and they will get that superclub image and will not have to spend so much money to attract players.
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Who is back? :confused:

Ronaldo was arrogant, but if you can look past that, you'd see that he's one of the best players the premiership has ever seen. A truly special player. Of course, all the ABU media cares about is showing him to be petulant and a diver. People are only going to realise how good he is now that he's gone.

Sir Alex? He can talk all he wants, he's undoubtedly the greatest manager of all time.
 
BritishColumbia

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Dime Dropper said:
Who is back? :confused:

Ronaldo was arrogant, but if you can look past that, you'd see that he's one of the best players the premiership has ever seen. A truly special player. Of course, all the ABU media cares about is showing him to be petulant and a diver. People are only going to realise how good he is now that he's gone.

Sir Alex? He can talk all he wants, he's undoubtedly the greatest manager of all time.
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Back is David Robert Joseph Beckham :)

Sir is great!! No doubts .. Super manager!! But sometimes he is into mind games with other coaches.
 
FromIsrael

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a good international game whould be israel against usa.. the onl diffrent is israel 3 players which are playing at the best teams in the world (liverpool, barca, real) and usa got players from the 2nd row of the teams in europe :) whould be a nice game..
 
BritishColumbia

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FromIsrael said:
and i want a rematch against greece. they won us 2-1 just cause the help of the refree..!
now we got almostn o chance to get to the world cup! :{
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Israel was a big player in a tragic England-Russia-Croatia showdown 2 years ago. You almost became evil geniuses but fortunately, England was kicked out anyway!! What a joy for the German nation (and I guess for Scottish and Irish people too) to see a failure of English National football team :D
 
FromIsrael

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BritishColumbia said:
Israel was a big player in a tragic England-Russia-Croatia showdown 2 years ago. You almost became evil geniuses but fortunately, England was kicked out anyway!! What a joy for the German nation (and I guess for Scottish and Irish people too) to see a failure of English National football team :D
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yeah israel allways win when they got no pressue, but every game of the naional team in here when theres no point at coming when we faile, pplz keep coming and theres 45k pepoles almost every match.

here's the video of that game-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE9U-BjOsBs

and heres a big win on argentina http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pJRAl5-4I&feature=related
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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FromIsrael said:
YAY REAL BOUGHT BENZEMA FOR 35 Milion Euro!~
YEAH
go REAL
http://translate.google.com/transla...ticle/139800.html&sl=iw&tl=en&history_state0=
(sorry for the kinda lame english,.. haha )
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It's not a done deal yet. Madrid have not signed him (yet).

It is still between Madrid and United to sign him. I hope United get him.

Madrid are a joke of a club. They are constantly tapping players up and similar to Chelsea, money is the biggest attraction for players. I hate Real. They can't produce any homegrown talent so they just spend ridiculous amounts of money on the worlds best players.

Can't wait to see Barcelona win La Liga next year after all the spending Real has done.
 
FromIsrael

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Dime Dropper said:
It's not a done deal yet. Madrid have not signed him (yet).

It is still between Madrid and United to sign him. I hope United get him.

Madrid are a joke of a club. They are constantly tapping players up and similar to Chelsea, money is the biggest attraction for players. I hate Real. They can't produce any homegrown talent so they just spend ridiculous amounts of money on the worlds best players.

Can't wait to see Barcelona win La Liga next year after all the spending Real has done.
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Real gonna KICK your Bat (Barca's of course) another year, after one year-brake. :]
 
BritishColumbia

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“I have made up my mind, I want to leave,” Ribery told Thursday’s issue of L’Equipe. “It will be Real (Madrid) or nothing.

So, it is not about money, or only about it. Real is a different universe, elite super club. Many people hate them for that, envy them but it is Real Madrid - love them or hate them - the football club of Europe!!!
 
FromIsrael

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BritishColumbia said:
“I have made up my mind, I want to leave,” Ribery told Thursday’s issue of L’Equipe. “It will be Real (Madrid) or nothing.

So, it is not about money, or only about it. Real is a different universe, elite super club. Many people hate them for that, envy them but it is Real Madrid - love them or hate them - the football club of Europe!!!
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I AGREE .. Go Real... If Rib'ery gonna join us, barca gonna be that small near us so they will even do a bunker while playing at the camp nou
 
FromIsrael

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BritishColumbia said:
This Real is gonna be special; not just excellent, SPECIAL!!! Too talented, too powerful for Barcelona. Can't wait too watch them!!!
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the big problom we got is the Defence side... we hadnt making a chagne there... the CB's Sucks.. and the Left defender are too.. we got to buy defenders... we got maybe the best GK in the world and the best right defender in the world but its not enough
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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People want to join Madrid because of the Galactico thing, not because they're a super club. They use money as an attraction as much as Chelsea or any other club. They can't develop their own talent and rely on spending crazy amounts of money to buying the best players in the world.

I think this Madrid team could implode. They've got many great players but their defense is not good at all, and there is only one ball on the pitch. All those superstars need the ball to be effective and you know players like Ronaldo are going to be unhappy unless they get their way. I'm not sure how much of a "team" they will be. That said, they have the talent to be a major force in the years to come.

BTW, Ramos isn't even close to being the best RB in the world. He is good going forward but he can't defend to save his life. Easily one of the most over-rated players in the world.
 
FromIsrael

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Dime Dropper said:
People want to join Madrid because of the Galactico thing, not because they're a super club. They use money as an attraction as much as Chelsea or any other club. They can't develop their own talent and rely on spending crazy amounts of money to buying the best players in the world.

I think this Madrid team could implode. They've got many great players but their defense is not good at all, and there is only one ball on the pitch. All those superstars need the ball to be effective and you know players like Ronaldo are going to be unhappy unless they get their way. I'm not sure how much of a "team" they will be. That said, they have the talent to be a major force in the years to come.

BTW, Ramos isn't even close to being the best RB in the world. He is good going forward but he can't defend to save his life. Easily one of the most over-rated players in the world.
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yeah man, every post you are posting in here is getting more and more Anti Real, you are just subiectiv... you hate real too much to see the truth. and the truth is SM is the best RB this days, Real is the Biggest team in all times (most championship in spain + in the champions league)
and i donnu what to say buti think your just jelous as an barca fan...

Real >>Pwnez>> Barca..
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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FromIsrael said:
yeah man, every post you are posting in here is getting more and more Anti Real, you are just subiectiv... you hate real too much to see the truth. and the truth is SM is the best RB this days, Real is the Biggest team in all times (most championship in spain + in the champions league)
and i donnu what to say buti think your just jelous as an barca fan...

Real >>Pwnez>> Barca..
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It's hard to be pro-Real when all they do is buy players. They rarely ever produce their own talent like other teams do. What's the truth? I know Madrid have great players, they have the talent to be a major force next year. It doesn't mean I have to like them. And sorry, but you don't watch football if you think Ramos is the best RB in the world. He's clearly not. Maicon is a far better player.

Real have only won the most champions leagues because they won it years and years ago when it wasn't a big thing. No one cared about it back then. All the same, Madrid do have a great history. No one is denying that.

BTW, I'm not a Barca fan. I don't support any team in Spain. I'm just an objective fan of the La Liga, and I judge what I see with my own eyes, not what the media tells us to believe.

The reason I like Barca better than Madrid is simple. Barca invest in youth instead of paying crazy amounts of money for players that OTHER TEAMS PRODUCED. Madrid have who, Raul? Meanwhile Barca have produced players like Iniesta, Xavi, Messi etc.!
As well as that, Barca don't make up stories in order to try to lure players. Last summer, Madrid were constantly making up blatantly false stories about Ronaldo in order to unsettle him. Madrid have no class. They are scummy, plain and simple. Everyday non-stop for about 3 months, Calderon and the Madrid press printed absolute rubbish trying to unsettle Ronaldo. Barca don't do that.

I know you're a RM fan, but try to see things clearly. Don't believe everything you read. :)
 
BritishColumbia

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Dime Dropper said:
It's hard to be pro-Real when all they do is buy players. They rarely ever produce their own talent like other teams do. What's the truth? I know Madrid have great players, they have the talent to be a major force next year. It doesn't mean I have to like them. And sorry, but you don't watch football if you think Ramos is the best RB in the world. He's clearly not. Maicon is a far better player.

Real have only won the most champions leagues because they won it years and years ago when it wasn't a big thing. No one cared about it back then. All the same, Madrid do have a great history. No one is denying that.

BTW, I'm not a Barca fan. I don't support any team in Spain. I'm just an objective fan of the La Liga, and I judge what I see with my own eyes, not what the media tells us to believe.

The reason I like Barca better than Madrid is simple. Barca invest in youth instead of paying crazy amounts of money for players that OTHER TEAMS PRODUCED. Madrid have who, Raul? Meanwhile Barca have produced players like Iniesta, Xavi, Messi etc.!
As well as that, Barca don't make up stories in order to try to lure players. Last summer, Madrid were constantly making up blatantly false stories about Ronaldo in order to unsettle him. Madrid have no class. They are scummy, plain and simple. Everyday non-stop for about 3 months, Calderon and the Madrid press printed absolute rubbish trying to unsettle Ronaldo. Barca don't do that.

I know you're a RM fan, but try to see things clearly. Don't believe everything you read. :)
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I got your point BUT .... every team is different. It is like bashing the Yankees because they are so rich, so successful, so powerful. Yes, Real Madrid is like NYY. They generate a lot of profit, they have money to buy stars. However, I completely disagree with you that players go to Real just to get some cash. IT IS NOT TRUE! You are so subjective. Real is not a fat wallet - it is a super club with unrivaled winning record. There is no team in Europe that can beat Real's glamor and chicness. EPL is the best league now - bar none. However, Real, Barca, Milan, Juventus have a special aura. And I think it is safe to say that Real Madrid is the top team among the Big 4.

You say Barca is better because they invest in youth development instead of paying a lot of money for players that other teams produced ... I do not think there is a rule that says that teams must do it in order to be cool. Every team has a different strategy and does what is best for them. Developing players is a one way but not the only way. Barca also buys expensive players, so what? You cannot say that one team is better than the other because it has more local products in its squad. In Albania, 99% of players are local ones and it does not make them more likable or just better.
Shevchenko from Ukraine was a symbol of Milan, Ibrahomovich is the man in Inter, Kaka and Ronaldo will be the key players for Real and I can continue it. Legionaries often are the main components in superclubs and it is ok. They play for Real, it is not a National team. It is a club and if it takes to bring 11 players from overseas or other teams in Spain to win the title, Real will do it. It is not about developing players, it is about winning the title. It is Real's motto.
 
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