Why does the media say the Kings and Warriors are rivals?

#1
The I-80 "rivalry" is so overplayed. Besides Geography what leg does this rivalry stand on? And to tell you the truth I even rooted for the warriors when they played the Mavs in the playoffs a few years back.
 
#2
Unless some folks in Oaktown decided that we were rivals at some point, I have no idea. There have been times when I laughed at their FO for making bad decisions, but I have nothing at all against the team.

To me they're more like neighbors than rivals.

Maybe the press is hungry for excitement in their stories, even if they have to make some of it up? "Battle of the cellar dwellers" doesn't have quite the same ring.
 
#3
I was a stark, raving, Warriors fan from the first time I saw them living in the Bay Area before becoming a stark, raving, mad Kings fan in 1985. So basically I was a W's fan for 15 years previously and a Kings fan now for 23 years.

What I noticed was that the REAL torn fans (like me a bit early on) are not in Sacramento or Oakland or next to those cities, but in places like Fairfield, Vacaville, Tracy, Antioch and a couple others. Around those parts they're almost half way or actually are half way between Arco Arena and Oracle Arena and Bay Area and Sacramento media markets overlap - meaning both teams appear on their local cable affiliates.

The rivalry can be rather pitched in sports bars in those places when the two teams match up but because both have been doormats of late or one dominate when other one was not - a truely sizzling rivalry has not taken off like it well could.
 
#4
I've always hated the Warriors. I always like beating them. However, on occassion, I have felt some sympathy for their fans.I love beating the Lakers, though, and can't imagine ever sympathizing with their fans. (Sorry Hoopsie.)
 
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sactownfan

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#6
Kevin Martin said himself that its the biggest rivalry for the kings current players
 
#7
i have a lot of friends that are warriors fans. i dont know why but they just dont like the kings. they'd rather see the lakers win then watch us win. maybe it's norcal jealousy, seeing us do well back then while they were at the bottom of the pacific division. i never really had a problem with them, and enjoyed watching them while baron davis was there and never really thought of them as rivals.
 

CruzDude

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#8
Back in the Mitch Richmond era they were our big rivals. But as fnordius says the media is just trying to create something that is not there and "rivals" sounds better than "battle of the cellar dwellers".

They probably should be rivals, and apparently Kevin and some of the other players think so. But the fans just don't. At least not yet. There just hasn't been any bulletin board material to start a rivalry and when both are so bad, who cares?
 
#9
There is animosity from some Warriors fans stemming from the bitterness of the Webber situation, and to a lesser extent, Adelman. Outside of that I think it's the usual not liking the other team. The Baron Davis team did have GS fans running their mouth more. Before that it was more a quite despisal.
 
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Lafayette

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#11
The teams are rivals just like the Clip/Lakers Net/Knicks Mavs/Spurs... it's just a local thing.
 
#12
It's funny, even in NBA 2k9 in the association mode, when the Kings and Warriors play, they mention the rivalry aspect. So I think the media does have something to do with it. Plus, I dislike the Warriors as well.
 
#16
I don't see how its much of a rivalry, you'd think it would since we're kinda close and in the same division, but I'm I've never been all that concerned with the warriors.
 

pdxKingsFan

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#18
I would cheer for the Warriors before Sac got the Kings. I liked them in the Run-TMC days and was elated when we got the Rock. I felt bad for them when the Spree thing went down. I rooted for them vs. the Mavs.

This certainly isn't Boston-NY or LA-SF or SF-Oakland or subway series level rivalry in my eyes.
 

VF21

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#23
All I know is I NEVER want to see another home Kings game with as many Warrior fans in attendance as were there this year. I now understand a little better the bitterness some Warriors fans had when the Kings referred to Oracle Arena as Arco West and actually had chartered buses taking them to Oakland for the games.

I don't know if it's actually a rivalry or if it's more like deep and abiding hatred.
 
#24
You really can't call it a rivalry. I think it has the pieces to make it a rivalry and both teams have to be good at the same time for there to be a rivalry. Right now neither team is good. If both teams become playoff teams, there might become a rivalry.
 

VF21

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#25
The whole idea that both teams have to be good at the same time to be a rivalry flies totally in the face of tradition as far as sports go.

The rivalry between Army and Navy has existed forever and it has nothing to do with the relative strength or weakness of that year's team.
 
#27
I'm not sure about both teams having to be winning teams...i mean look at the Raiders and the 49'ers. They are as bad as can be and I'm pretty sure a rivalry still exists their. However, that is football so there might be a difference between that and NBA teams.
 
#28
Yankees and Red Sox has been a rivalry "forever" and it clearly has nothing to do with how good either team has been, is or will ever be.
 
#29
I'm not saying they have to always be good at the same time, most of the time there has to be a time that they were both good fairly recently. Maybe it would be better phrased as a team that is "competing".
 
#30
I'm not saying they have to always be good at the same time, most of the time there has to be a time that they were both good fairly recently. Maybe it would be better phrased as a team that is "competing".
That has never made the least bit of difference to Boston or NY fans. Rivalries were a matter of civic pride and being proud of where you were from or what you did for a living even (Steelers/Packers). TEams were seen as an extension of the city/region they were from.