Blazers talking to Kings?
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This is from the Bee: http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1575640.html?mi_rss=Kings/NBA
Blazers must want Salmons?
Blazers must want Salmons?
I am genuinely worried when I see articles like this; it seems that the FO may still not be getting it. I'm really worried that GP will do a very silly "win-now" trade.
And I fail to see how Natt is doing a good job since he refuses to play our young guys consistently, despite their productivity when given the chance.
And I fail to see how Natt is doing a good job since he refuses to play our young guys consistently, despite their productivity when given the chance.
Fernandez is pretty much untouchable I would think. Actually, unless they can seriously upgrade one of those spots, not really sure why they would want to trade any of those guys. They're already a 50 win team and everybody is just going to get better. They need a PG, but we don't really have that guy for them. Another star I suppose, but we don't have any.
The deal between the kings and blazers that is reportedly being discussed is basically John Salmans + filler for Raef LaFrentz (12 million expiring this year) and a future 1st rount pick.
The filler on the Kings side may be Mikki Moore--
So if the Kings do this trade I would hardly classify this as the Kings going into "win now" mode -- On the contrary they'd be opening up some cash room for this offseason. Especially if they can move Brad for some expirings, they may have over $25 million available this summer.
The filler on the Kings side may be Mikki Moore--
So if the Kings do this trade I would hardly classify this as the Kings going into "win now" mode -- On the contrary they'd be opening up some cash room for this offseason. Especially if they can move Brad for some expirings, they may have over $25 million available this summer.
Um. Sam Amick linked just linked to Hoopsworld.
Is the apocalypse nigh?
Anyway, they're saying what BayAreaKingsFan said: a possible deal that would be Salmons + filler for LaFrentz + 1st Rounder
Works for me.
Is the apocalypse nigh?
Anyway, they're saying what BayAreaKingsFan said: a possible deal that would be Salmons + filler for LaFrentz + 1st Rounder
Works for me.
We'd have to throw in either BJax, or Mikki and Douby to make it work (presumably the latter). But I don't expect a Portland pick will be very good for a while - we can totally get more for Salmons than trading expiring contracts and a late future pick. I don't imagine Portland wants to give up Bayless, but I'd rather aim high than take a lowball offer like LaFrentz and a pick in the 20s.
It is the overall tone of what GP is saying. For example, he has to be "very open minded about what type of things you might consider and what immediate impact it might have".
Considering that he's talking about how bad the Kings are right now, I presume he's talking about a trade to bring in players which are good now. That would do absolutely nothing for us.
This part, too.
Why is it troubling? We knew it would happen. We're rebuilding (I hope) for jeez sake. If sucking through a rebuild surprises him, he's not very smart. Here he again shows the desire to win a few extra games which will only have a negative effect for the future.
Anyway, regarding the Portland trade. I'd be down for LaFrentz + 1st rounder for Salmons. Even better if we can get Koponen or Sergio off them, but not a deal-breaker. Not only do we get the chance to bring in talent in the draft, it also opens up minutes for Donte.
Considering that he's talking about how bad the Kings are right now, I presume he's talking about a trade to bring in players which are good now. That would do absolutely nothing for us.
This part, too.
Why is it troubling? We knew it would happen. We're rebuilding (I hope) for jeez sake. If sucking through a rebuild surprises him, he's not very smart. Here he again shows the desire to win a few extra games which will only have a negative effect for the future.
Anyway, regarding the Portland trade. I'd be down for LaFrentz + 1st rounder for Salmons. Even better if we can get Koponen or Sergio off them, but not a deal-breaker. Not only do we get the chance to bring in talent in the draft, it also opens up minutes for Donte.
There was a time when I agreed with this sentiment; however, if Petrie is not fielding any better offers for Salmons, than we need to do this trade. I am concerned that some of our veterans our becoming cancers who either don't seem to care (Miller) or are only playing for their own stats (Salmons). We now have some good, young talent (JT, Hawes, Greene, KMart, Cisco) and I hate to see the veterans poison the attitudes of the youth. One of Kevin Pritchard's smartest moves as GM of the Blazers was trading Zach Randolph for .50 cents on the dollar to end the Jailblazer era and keep his bad habits away from the Roy/Oden/LA core.
Right now those guys are preventing us from having a real motion offense, their attitudes are infectious and they are costing the kids minutes. I think at this point the opportunity cost of holding out beyond the trade deadline to move them for more would hurt us in the long run.
Right now those guys are preventing us from having a real motion offense, their attitudes are infectious and they are costing the kids minutes. I think at this point the opportunity cost of holding out beyond the trade deadline to move them for more would hurt us in the long run.
Your entitled to your interpretation, but I think you are reading too much into it. I take the first part about trades as being generic. Of course we need to be open to trades and their impace, but he did not say we have to win at any cost.
Regarding the second quote, I think it goes back to a post I had a few days back about how the Kings are playing worse than the sum of their parts. Petrie's other quotes point to the fact that he realizes this team is playing worse than their talent because certain players are not motivated by winning at this point.
Considering we traded Bibby and Artest already and every rumor we hear is about Miller and Salmons instead of Hawes and JT, I wouldn't lose any sleep over a few Petrie quotes.
Regarding the second quote, I think it goes back to a post I had a few days back about how the Kings are playing worse than the sum of their parts. Petrie's other quotes point to the fact that he realizes this team is playing worse than their talent because certain players are not motivated by winning at this point.
Considering we traded Bibby and Artest already and every rumor we hear is about Miller and Salmons instead of Hawes and JT, I wouldn't lose any sleep over a few Petrie quotes.
We already have Raef LaFrentz on this team. Twice.
The term "future pick" BTW makes it sound like not one for this year. But that would be foolish I think -- the Blazers aren't going to be getting any worse in future years, and if you are not careful your "future pick" could end up being #30.
P.S. Anybody know if the Blazers have anybody's else's picks(s) this year from all their wheeling and dealing?
The term "future pick" BTW makes it sound like not one for this year. But that would be foolish I think -- the Blazers aren't going to be getting any worse in future years, and if you are not careful your "future pick" could end up being #30.
P.S. Anybody know if the Blazers have anybody's else's picks(s) this year from all their wheeling and dealing?
