and with the #1 pick in the 2009 NBA draft the Kings select...
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If we could grab him with the 2nd first rounder I would totally be happy.. A perfect draft is Rubio with our first pick, and Hansbrough with Houston's pick, and Taj Gibson with the 2nd rounder. You can play Hansbrough at the 3 or 4, Gibson as C in a small lineup or backup explosive PF, and Rubio would be the new PG. Those three could bring a lot of flexibility.
I am actually curious to see how Tyler does, people may see him as so overrated that now he is actually underrated. I think we can afford to gamble on potential with Houston's pick, so TH is not really for us, but he is probably a slightly underrated athelete and is a scrapper. He might carve a nice niche out in the NBA as a hustle player off of some playoff team's bench. Think of a poor man's Noah/Varajeo but with a higher basketball IQ (particularly compared to Noah).
I mean Kevin Love looks like a legit player in MN and even Josh McRoberts has gotten some run in Indiana. Tyler has to fall at least somewhere between those two (hedging closer to Love). I think people are almost overly scared of him because he is the kind of player who would have gone in the mid-lottery a decade ago, but it he's taken somewhere in the 20s, he could provide good value for a team.
I mean Kevin Love looks like a legit player in MN and even Josh McRoberts has gotten some run in Indiana. Tyler has to fall at least somewhere between those two (hedging closer to Love). I think people are almost overly scared of him because he is the kind of player who would have gone in the mid-lottery a decade ago, but it he's taken somewhere in the 20s, he could provide good value for a team.
There is absolutly nothing stopping us from drafting him and keeping him in Europe for a year or two. Its just that is extremly rare and risky for lottery picks. I thin Magic picked up a Varquez (sp?) a few years back in the lottery and he is yet to make his way to the NBA.
As for the buyout, regardless of what the figure is set at, the NBA team is only allowed to contribute $500K. The rest is made up by the player.
Ideally, we would draft Rubio and keep him stashed in europe for a year. Play Beno back into form next year and trade him. Suck next season as well, get another top 5 pick and hopefully land a major franchise player. Introduce both Rubio and the "franchise player" and the free agents we sign with the cap room for 2010-2011 season and we would be on the way.
As for the buyout, regardless of what the figure is set at, the NBA team is only allowed to contribute $500K. The rest is made up by the player.
Ideally, we would draft Rubio and keep him stashed in europe for a year. Play Beno back into form next year and trade him. Suck next season as well, get another top 5 pick and hopefully land a major franchise player. Introduce both Rubio and the "franchise player" and the free agents we sign with the cap room for 2010-2011 season and we would be on the way.
Haslem with less D might be a good comparison. There's always a spot in the NBA for a player who hustles, has a nose for the ball and who can hit the 15-17 foot jumper. Not to mention that while TH doesn't have the physical attirubtes to be a very good defender, he is not some softie college shooter, and I imagine he will at least play scrappy, hard D.
Naw, don't see the Haslem comparison with Hansbrough. The thing that makes Haslem so effective is his strength - he's a big, strong dude who also happens to be pretty skilled hitting the 15 footer. Hansbrough doesn't have that strength, nor does he really have the capability of adding it, which I think is going to limit what he can do in the NBA. He can come in and be a pest off the bench, but the best rebounders in the NBA are big and strong. Hansbrough's just not that strong. Don't really see much potential for him.
I can find a lot of fault with Hansbrough, but lack of strength isn't one of them. He's not the most athletic guy. He doesn't have good hops or great foot speed. But the dude is very strong. Its one the the few things he has going for him. If he gets his hands on a basketball, its rare for anyone to take it away from him.
He's hard to get a read on. There's no denying that he's gotten results against good competition, so its hard to say he can't do the same thing in the NBA. I have my doubts, and would be reluctant to use a draft pick on him in the first round. But I wouldn't bet my house on his being a failure.
He's hard to get a read on. There's no denying that he's gotten results against good competition, so its hard to say he can't do the same thing in the NBA. I have my doubts, and would be reluctant to use a draft pick on him in the first round. But I wouldn't bet my house on his being a failure.
Wake/VA Tech - VA Tech exposes Tech's soft D, and no one would give Teague the ball down the stretch. Nice upset.
Teague - Holy crap is this dude quick. I don't remember seeing him last season, but watching him now, it's hard to believe he's not ranked higher. He creates instant separation, he has a killer crossover, he's tough as nails, plays solid defense, and he really flies. Unfortunately he's absolutely not a point guard, he has a tendency to get into tunnel vision mode, and he turns the ball over way too much. He also has a slow release on his jumper, which could be a potential problem even if he does make a very high percentage. But wow. Blinding quickness and shooting. I like it.
Aminu - Definitely athletic, and great size for SF. Unfortunately he's extremely awkward driving with the ball and can't shoot. He's so skinny that he's definitely a SF, but he plays PF for Wake and he's not great on the perimeter. He's also a trainwreck of a defender except for some plays due to his athleticism. He really needs to stay in school and learn to shoot and take the ball to the hoop.
Gotta adjust my top 5 draft wish list
1. Teague
2. Griffin (pending height measurement)
3. Thabeet
4. Mullens
5. Collison
Teague - Holy crap is this dude quick. I don't remember seeing him last season, but watching him now, it's hard to believe he's not ranked higher. He creates instant separation, he has a killer crossover, he's tough as nails, plays solid defense, and he really flies. Unfortunately he's absolutely not a point guard, he has a tendency to get into tunnel vision mode, and he turns the ball over way too much. He also has a slow release on his jumper, which could be a potential problem even if he does make a very high percentage. But wow. Blinding quickness and shooting. I like it.
Aminu - Definitely athletic, and great size for SF. Unfortunately he's extremely awkward driving with the ball and can't shoot. He's so skinny that he's definitely a SF, but he plays PF for Wake and he's not great on the perimeter. He's also a trainwreck of a defender except for some plays due to his athleticism. He really needs to stay in school and learn to shoot and take the ball to the hoop.
Gotta adjust my top 5 draft wish list
1. Teague
2. Griffin (pending height measurement)
3. Thabeet
4. Mullens
5. Collison
Ohio St./Illinois from the other night: Still not completely sold on BJ Mullens, but definitely intrigued. He's fluid and definitely athletic, shows some decent passing, but still pretty weak physically and really needs to work on his conditioning. He's not that great of a rebounder and shotblocker yet, but a solid prospect. Also needs to work on his free throw shooting.
UConn/Villanova -
Villanova is a small team, and their strategy seemed to be "Foul Thabeet on every rebound." Which worked!! The refs didn't call anything, but meanwhile he got into foul trouble on some ticky tack stuff, only played 17 minutes, then looked like he banged his knee. Sometimes it sucks to be the big man.
He hit his free throws and hit a really tough alley-oop for the and-one, drew a tough charge using some quick footwork, hit a solid jump hook, even dove on the floor to save a loose ball, had a great block in crunch time to secure the win.
Didn't think he looked aniemic at all, Entity.
Villanova is a small team, and their strategy seemed to be "Foul Thabeet on every rebound." Which worked!! The refs didn't call anything, but meanwhile he got into foul trouble on some ticky tack stuff, only played 17 minutes, then looked like he banged his knee. Sometimes it sucks to be the big man.
He hit his free throws and hit a really tough alley-oop for the and-one, drew a tough charge using some quick footwork, hit a solid jump hook, even dove on the floor to save a loose ball, had a great block in crunch time to secure the win.
Didn't think he looked aniemic at all, Entity.
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I think Hansbrough will be better than Madsen. He is stronger than people give him credit for. NBA strong? Not yet, but he will be.
A lot of people said the same thing about Love, and he's doing REAL well for being a rookie off the bench. In two years I wouldn't be surprised if Love, and Jefferson were tearing it up in Minny.
A lot of people said the same thing about Love, and he's doing REAL well for being a rookie off the bench. In two years I wouldn't be surprised if Love, and Jefferson were tearing it up in Minny.