Is CWebb HOF worthy?
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You might want to take a look here, where they examine the factors that seem to get an NBA player into the HoF: http://www.databasebasketball.com/about/abouthofm.htm
A championship does very little to get one in, relative to other factors. One selection to the All NBA First Team, for example, is worth more than 4 rings. Being a center is such a strong negative that 5 rings would not overcome it. And so on... it's really not focused on championships much at all.
A championship does very little to get one in, relative to other factors. One selection to the All NBA First Team, for example, is worth more than 4 rings. Being a center is such a strong negative that 5 rings would not overcome it. And so on... it's really not focused on championships much at all.
I voted "no", I'm not sure that even a championship with the Pistons would have helped him. A couple of people have mentioned that he should get recognition because of his career stats. However, Webber only had 3 seasons where he shot FGs above 50%, that is low, especially for a PF who had so many dunks. Compare his career FG% to that of Charles Barkley. Other reasons for not including him: Michigan situation, marijuana and other drug problems.
There is an interesting poll on ESPN regarding Webber:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=3395
Another link on the same topic:
http://dimemag.com/2007/10/10/the-hof-watch-chris-webber/
There is an interesting poll on ESPN regarding Webber:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=3395
Another link on the same topic:
http://dimemag.com/2007/10/10/the-hof-watch-chris-webber/
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It's a shame that the Fab Five legacy didn't live up to its billing in the NBA. Jimmy King and Ray Jackson faded out a long time ago. Juwann Howard is still in the NBA, but in his prime he showed only flashes of his potential. Jalen Rose played excellent ball in the NBA, but he was on a lot of bad teams and bounced around (pardon the pun) quite a bit.
Which leads us to Webber. CWebb had the best NBA career of all of them, but he couldn't sustain his all-star play long enough to earn a spot in the Hall of Fame.
Which leads us to Webber. CWebb had the best NBA career of all of them, but he couldn't sustain his all-star play long enough to earn a spot in the Hall of Fame.
1) They drew record television audiences almost every night
2) Set fashion trends - remember, no one wore black socks before they did.
3) They touched off a licensing and merchandising boom that perhaps nudged all of college athletics along its current marketing-crazed course.
4) They are the most renowned recruiting class in college basketball history
5) Annual athletic royalties more than tripled, from $2 million in the pre-Fab year of 1990-91 to a peak of $6.2 million in '93-94
6) They ran the floor with playground joy and swagger, slapping hands and bumping chests and talking...which, also was unheard of at the college level.
2) Set fashion trends - remember, no one wore black socks before they did.
3) They touched off a licensing and merchandising boom that perhaps nudged all of college athletics along its current marketing-crazed course.
4) They are the most renowned recruiting class in college basketball history
5) Annual athletic royalties more than tripled, from $2 million in the pre-Fab year of 1990-91 to a peak of $6.2 million in '93-94
6) They ran the floor with playground joy and swagger, slapping hands and bumping chests and talking...which, also was unheard of at the college level.
I voted no a while back. Read this. It is a great article that describes how I feel about CW.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080328
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He is a HOFer. I don't know if he will ever be voted in, but he is HOF worthy. Ewing, Berkley et al are all getting in the HOF without an NBA ring in their legacy because they had to go against Jordan, Hakeem and Duncan/Robins in their primes in order to capture it. Chris and the Kings had to go against, Shaq, Kobe and referees and they arguably came closer then anybody else on that list to capturing championship.
Chris also qualifies as a unique NBA player. Maybe not so in your face spectacular like Maravich for example, but all the same, he combined size, athleticism and skills like no other PF in his era.
Chris also qualifies as a unique NBA player. Maybe not so in your face spectacular like Maravich for example, but all the same, he combined size, athleticism and skills like no other PF in his era.
I voted "no" initially because I thought that even if his stats were worthy, he was one who never quite got over the hump, and I don't mean championship. The ESPN article had a good point about his not coming through when it counted, and as much as I am a fan of his, that article rang too true.
Then I saw that Chris Mullin and KJ were in there.
Heck, if those two guys can make it in, then Webb should get in too.
Then I saw that Chris Mullin and KJ were in there.
Heck, if those two guys can make it in, then Webb should get in too.