Consolidated Artest rumor thread
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Yes it is, but Kleiza's deal is the extra deal. The one we want to add. The base is Najera's ender and presumably a pick.
So while this summer we would like to have leftover from a deal atfer the expirings go:
first round pick (probably #20-#22 or so)
Linas Kleiza
$6mil in cap room
It is still infinitely better to have:
first round pick (probably #20-#22 or so)
$7.8mil in cap room
than to have:
[nothing]
$7.8mil in cap room
I really think that assuming Denver's deal of Kleiza/Smith/1st really is on the table and they're haggling over Kleiza, this will get resolved tomorrow. Someone is going to blink, either Petrie or the Nuggets. It's going to come down to the wire, but it really seems like both sides have too much incentive to make this deal for it not to go down.
Why do I think RonRon isn't going anywhere right now? I don't really know, but somehow that possibility rears its head. His last 3 games are quite the showcases, but then again, what if he doesn't opt out? It is Artest after all and who knows, least of all him, what he will do?
There is no one anywhere that can do what he has done last 3 games AND shut down the other teams main scorer: McGrady, Roy and tonight, Johnson.
I'd like RonRon to stay and maybe trade Salmons, who is good but he is no RonRon. Next 14 hours will be interesting.
There is no one anywhere that can do what he has done last 3 games AND shut down the other teams main scorer: McGrady, Roy and tonight, Johnson.
I'd like RonRon to stay and maybe trade Salmons, who is good but he is no RonRon. Next 14 hours will be interesting.
Which is nice and doubtless true. I am nonetheless saying that if we can't get him it is still preferable to make the move anyway than not because something > nothing. This is of course what the Nuggets are counting on too while waiting for us to blink. So you'd like to convince them that is not how you are thinking, but in the end if we end up playing hardball right on past the deadline, we lose. Nuggets may lose too. But who the bleep cares about the Nuggets? This is purely about us and our future.
^Well, there is also the idea that Artest has almost zero leverage in free agency because the only teams that have cap room are teams that wouldn't be interested in him, so we'd a) be able to S&T him, b) he wouldn't opt out and we would have a bargain of Ron at $8 million and a for-real expiring or c) he would be forced take the MLE and walk.
Of course, this was also our thinking going into Cuttino Mobley's free agency and he waltzed to LA. But maybe our luck would be better this time. I don't think you can necessarily bet on that, but our options aren't to just take whatever Denver's offering or get nothing.
Of course, this was also our thinking going into Cuttino Mobley's free agency and he waltzed to LA. But maybe our luck would be better this time. I don't think you can necessarily bet on that, but our options aren't to just take whatever Denver's offering or get nothing.
The Kings have an outstanding young player in Martin. A very capable young PG in Beno, a player that could end up being a GREAT shooter in Garcia, an All Star caliber center again in Miller(who I was really down on last year) a monster SF in Artest, a young Center in Hawes that is actually starting to make think he will be a player, and a pretty decent bench. If this team can somehow get a stud PF, they are VERY competitive no matter which conference they are in.
In any event,this team is good right now, and would be a playoff team for sure if they didnt start off so crappy due solely to injury. Would they be title contender? likely not, add one all star PF, and maybe, depending on the level of the player.
You seem a little confused about which team you are watching, and bolding it all doesn't add much to your point.
And like everyone else who believes in magic and faeries and little leprechauns you can feel free at some point to describe how we just magically add said All Star PF with no high draft pick, no cap room, and without trading all of these alleged Alll Stars we have all over our roster. Is there a spell for that?
And like everyone else who believes in magic and faeries and little leprechauns you can feel free at some point to describe how we just magically add said All Star PF with no high draft pick, no cap room, and without trading all of these alleged Alll Stars we have all over our roster. Is there a spell for that?
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I bolded my words to seperate them from the quote, sorry to offend you.
Lets see, didnt the Celts just get Garnett? Didnt the Lakers just get Gasol?
What I am saying is that we are closer to where we want to be keeping the team as is, then we are by trading Artest, hoping to land a big time player in the draft and then waiting around for 3 more years to see what happens with this player.
I didnt say the Kings are loaded with all stars, but if you dont see the quality players we have in some young guys, you are blind.
Lets see, didnt the Celts just get Garnett? Didnt the Lakers just get Gasol?
What I am saying is that we are closer to where we want to be keeping the team as is, then we are by trading Artest, hoping to land a big time player in the draft and then waiting around for 3 more years to see what happens with this player.
I didnt say the Kings are loaded with all stars, but if you dont see the quality players we have in some young guys, you are blind.
Because of trade rules, BJax would only be able to be traded on his own -- he couldn't be packaged with anyone in order to make salaries work. And the only player we would want to trade for BJax straight-up that would work salary-wise would be SAR. And then if you're talking about trading Artest for some of their remaining players... just doesn't make sense. The Houston ship has sailed.
The deal, being reported elsewhere, is Nene to the Nets for Magloire and Nachbar.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...o_Bulls-NBA_Trade_Rumors_Deadline_Talk-200208
You don't think that they're picking up BJax to make Brooks expendable in a deal for Ron? It could happen! 
SAR/Artest for BJax/Battier/Brooks... that's just bad.
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