Mustafa Shakur Waived -- Hello Beno Udrih?
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Interensing signing. With more tallented vets out there that might well have taken the Vet minimum I almost think that Petrie was trying to look like he was doing something and trying the keep the team competive while actually working to make no meaningfull changes. (Think high pick in lotto) Beno is the one guy who plays less D than Bibby and no real claim to fame or player rep to worry about so if he sits a lot while Green and Douby get long min so what. IF that was Petries stratagy then I say props to the guy for being one slick operator. If on the other hand GP looked at the team and said "Gee we need solid starting PG to keep the team afloat while Mike heals up, to play back up behind him" then he looked arround the leage and said "Udrich is the best guy for the job." Then I feel a little sick.
Kings sign free-agent point guard Udrih
By Sam Amick - samick@sacbee.com
http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/466215.html
Published 1:01 pm PDT Thursday, November 1, 2007
Former Spurs point guard Beno Udrih joins the Kings and Ron Artest after he signed a one-year contract with the team Thursday. Paul Kitagaki Jr. / Sacramento Bee Photograph
NEW ORLEANS -- The Kings signed Beno Udrih on Thursday, a fourth-year point guard who is much-needed in light of the absence of Mike Bibby.
Udrih, a 6-foot-3, 205-pound Slovenian player who was drafted 28th overall in 2004 by San Antonio, was traded by the Spurs to Minnesota last month and waived by the Timberwolves on Oct. 27. His agent, Marc Cornstein, said he signed a one-year contract and the Kings were only able to offer the minimum salary because they are over the salary cap ($826,046).
"This is just a fantastic opportunity for Beno," Cornstein said. "It's a positional need for the Kings, they have expressed interest in him in the past, and we are just really excited it was able to work out. It's really just a fantastic opportunity for Beno."
Udrih is expected to join the team either Thursday night in San Antonio or Friday, but he Cornstein said he wouldn't be able to play for at least week as he broke a finger on his shooting hand in Spurs training camp. He played his first three seasons in San Antonio, serving at times as a backup to Tony Parker and at other times getting little time behind Nick Van Exel or Jacques Vaughn.
"We're excited about adding Beno to our roster," said Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie in a statement released by the team. "He's a talented player we've had an interest in for some time, a true point guard who brings experience to our team going forward."
Bibby is out after having surgery on a torn ligament in his left thumb, and is expected to miss at least 10 weeks.
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By Sam Amick - samick@sacbee.com
http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/466215.html
Published 1:01 pm PDT Thursday, November 1, 2007
Former Spurs point guard Beno Udrih joins the Kings and Ron Artest after he signed a one-year contract with the team Thursday. Paul Kitagaki Jr. / Sacramento Bee Photograph
NEW ORLEANS -- The Kings signed Beno Udrih on Thursday, a fourth-year point guard who is much-needed in light of the absence of Mike Bibby.
Udrih, a 6-foot-3, 205-pound Slovenian player who was drafted 28th overall in 2004 by San Antonio, was traded by the Spurs to Minnesota last month and waived by the Timberwolves on Oct. 27. His agent, Marc Cornstein, said he signed a one-year contract and the Kings were only able to offer the minimum salary because they are over the salary cap ($826,046).
"This is just a fantastic opportunity for Beno," Cornstein said. "It's a positional need for the Kings, they have expressed interest in him in the past, and we are just really excited it was able to work out. It's really just a fantastic opportunity for Beno."
Udrih is expected to join the team either Thursday night in San Antonio or Friday, but he Cornstein said he wouldn't be able to play for at least week as he broke a finger on his shooting hand in Spurs training camp. He played his first three seasons in San Antonio, serving at times as a backup to Tony Parker and at other times getting little time behind Nick Van Exel or Jacques Vaughn.
"We're excited about adding Beno to our roster," said Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie in a statement released by the team. "He's a talented player we've had an interest in for some time, a true point guard who brings experience to our team going forward."
Bibby is out after having surgery on a torn ligament in his left thumb, and is expected to miss at least 10 weeks.
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Hello people, long time no see!
Here are my two cents on Udrih signing. His whole family is baskeball crazy. His father played basketball and his older brother is professional player over here in Europe. At young age Beno was a hard worker. He spent hours and hours on the court every day, so I was very surprised when I heard that he has that "party animal" reputation. But people change, I guess.
About his skills.
He learned the game step by step. He didn't cut any corners. He can be used as a point or a shooting guard. His shot can be a little streaky at the times.
He penetrates well and he has good court vision. He is not lightnig fast, but he has some speed. With his court vision and good and fast desission making he compensates for his lack of athletic abilities.
I just hope that he still has that desire or hunger in him, because reports from San Antonio are saying that he has all the talent needed but is "fat", lazy and with no heart.
Fact is that he is injury prone. Nothing major, but always some little thing that keeps him from getting off. My feeling is that he somehow gave up on Spurs when they brought in Vaughn. I could sense that in some of his interviews for slovenian media. In those interviews he looked a little spoiled for my taste. I hope that reality has hit him good and that this fresh start will help him and Sacramento.
Here are my two cents on Udrih signing. His whole family is baskeball crazy. His father played basketball and his older brother is professional player over here in Europe. At young age Beno was a hard worker. He spent hours and hours on the court every day, so I was very surprised when I heard that he has that "party animal" reputation. But people change, I guess.
About his skills.
He learned the game step by step. He didn't cut any corners. He can be used as a point or a shooting guard. His shot can be a little streaky at the times.
He penetrates well and he has good court vision. He is not lightnig fast, but he has some speed. With his court vision and good and fast desission making he compensates for his lack of athletic abilities.
I just hope that he still has that desire or hunger in him, because reports from San Antonio are saying that he has all the talent needed but is "fat", lazy and with no heart.
Fact is that he is injury prone. Nothing major, but always some little thing that keeps him from getting off. My feeling is that he somehow gave up on Spurs when they brought in Vaughn. I could sense that in some of his interviews for slovenian media. In those interviews he looked a little spoiled for my taste. I hope that reality has hit him good and that this fresh start will help him and Sacramento.
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After perusing the thread for notable responses, I agree with Brick's assessment of Udrih's game. He's clearly a guy who gets the hell out of the way after bringing the ball up court and passing it to the main guy. A role player who likely won't get any better than what he is, doing only the things he does well--of course everything proportional to playing time. However he's got high basketball IQ and can do a little bit of everything, and does enough to be classified as a combo guard rather than the notorious tweener.
He's got a nice shot, but at the NBA level that nice shot is only reduced to being at only spot-up positions because he clearly doesn't have the speed, lateral agility or aggressive mentality to create his own shot off the dribble. Slightly above average shooter, but not a pure one by any means. His shot will get affected by defenses and the flow of the game, and as one guy noted about his declining shooting percentages with the Spurs, can get streaky. I have reservations about his ability to get to the basket--hoopshype's "struggles with physical play" may give the impression he's a softie, but who knows. Defense? Has height (6'3") and some quickness, meaning that when he decides to put effort against average to lower level NBA PGs he can get some stops. But against the Diddies and Parkers and Arenas of the world, he's severely overmatched--part of the reason he's only a role player, in addition to his average offense. Passing is not good enough for a point guard, but above average for a shooting guard and he does play under control meaning that he won't take the unnecessary shots that would otherwise classify him as a undersized tweener gunner. Maybe that's a breath of fresh air for us, not having a sole scorer but a guy who merely spots up and plays to his limitations and contributes in a little bit of everything, but not an impact player. He also comes from a good system in San Antonio, and he's still young. But how about his conditioning and laziness, as mentioned by some Spursniks? That has to be of some concern, but that could also be attributed to Jacque Vaughn and other guys taking his playing time. Maybe he can have a resurgence, or renaissance, playing for us averaging a career high 7 pts 3 asts for us, but I don't think he would make a difference in the win column.
For comparison, think of a really poor man's sort of Derek Fisher, with less guts/heart, a worse shot at this stage but more height. Udrih was really the perfect fit for San Antonio, a guy who could simply play within a set offense and masquerade with other capable players. But put in a lead role, I, um...I don't know. We'll see how he responds.
He's got a nice shot, but at the NBA level that nice shot is only reduced to being at only spot-up positions because he clearly doesn't have the speed, lateral agility or aggressive mentality to create his own shot off the dribble. Slightly above average shooter, but not a pure one by any means. His shot will get affected by defenses and the flow of the game, and as one guy noted about his declining shooting percentages with the Spurs, can get streaky. I have reservations about his ability to get to the basket--hoopshype's "struggles with physical play" may give the impression he's a softie, but who knows. Defense? Has height (6'3") and some quickness, meaning that when he decides to put effort against average to lower level NBA PGs he can get some stops. But against the Diddies and Parkers and Arenas of the world, he's severely overmatched--part of the reason he's only a role player, in addition to his average offense. Passing is not good enough for a point guard, but above average for a shooting guard and he does play under control meaning that he won't take the unnecessary shots that would otherwise classify him as a undersized tweener gunner. Maybe that's a breath of fresh air for us, not having a sole scorer but a guy who merely spots up and plays to his limitations and contributes in a little bit of everything, but not an impact player. He also comes from a good system in San Antonio, and he's still young. But how about his conditioning and laziness, as mentioned by some Spursniks? That has to be of some concern, but that could also be attributed to Jacque Vaughn and other guys taking his playing time. Maybe he can have a resurgence, or renaissance, playing for us averaging a career high 7 pts 3 asts for us, but I don't think he would make a difference in the win column.
For comparison, think of a really poor man's sort of Derek Fisher, with less guts/heart, a worse shot at this stage but more height. Udrih was really the perfect fit for San Antonio, a guy who could simply play within a set offense and masquerade with other capable players. But put in a lead role, I, um...I don't know. We'll see how he responds.
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