Let's Not Panic
- Thread starter Sac4cwebb
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I don't think I'm panicking when I say I would like to see Bibby and Artest traded. If we are truly committed to rebuilding they don't need to be part of it. I would accept ending contracts or young potential (preferably bigs). I don't see it as panic. With the current roster if all goes really well and everyone performs how they are capable of we might sneak into the playoffs in the west, and I don't just wanna contend for a playoff spot. I would rather unload what we can, keep the younguns and maybe nab a few more in trade/free agency and draft a decent player or 2 and see if we can put together another serious contender in a few years.
here is the thing. If we could unload Bibby and Artest for JUST young players with a bright future that would be fine. Only problem is, in order to trade them you have to take back at least 1 undesirable and to me I would rather have Bibby and Artest instead of another teams crap player and a youngster that may or may not be anything.
I know the whole idea is to suck so we can get a high pick for the next draft, but I would like to see either Bibby or Artest for at least this coming season, just so we can win a decent (low) number of games. Unless of course we get pure young talent. Though I do look forward to the post-rebuilding, if we don't even try to win games then based on the argument that making the playoffs will be of no use at all, all teams that aren't SA or Phoenix should just rebuild as well.
All teams not either:
a) at an elite level
or
b) with teams on the upswing building toward it
SHOULD rebuild. Unfortunately there is a low supply of balls in NBA front offices and brains amongst the world's fandom, so many many teams choose to play it yellow and stupid, appease the fans who can be appeased, keep their cushy jobs for as long as posible, and cross their fingers and hope.
In the West the playoffs have:
a) great meaning to San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Utah and the Rockets, because they all legitimately think they can win a title.
b) nearly as much meaning to the Nuggets, who will continue to squint hard and believe that given a full year A.I./Melo will make them contenders too. And to the Warriors, who will not go anywhere, but will of course want to build on last year's momentum.
c) are the necessary and next step forward for young teams on the rise in New Orleans and Portland who have the bulk of their young rosters already completed.
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d) Unfortunately seem to have meaning for the Wolves, Lakers, Clippers and possibly even Grizzlies. Those teams would likely be better off doing the rebuild. But they are caught trying to appease KG, Kobe, Pau and Brand all in their primes and so they struggle on, without any real hope. They are all thinking "we're just one player away!" But the one player is a 2nd superstar, they can't get him, and until they do they are better off missing the playoffs and hoping to egt lucky in the draft than wasting their time as fodder.
e) have almost no meaning at all to Sacramento and Seattle. Both in the beginning stages of true rebuilds (Seattle is ahead of the game with Durant).
a) at an elite level
or
b) with teams on the upswing building toward it
SHOULD rebuild. Unfortunately there is a low supply of balls in NBA front offices and brains amongst the world's fandom, so many many teams choose to play it yellow and stupid, appease the fans who can be appeased, keep their cushy jobs for as long as posible, and cross their fingers and hope.
In the West the playoffs have:
a) great meaning to San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Utah and the Rockets, because they all legitimately think they can win a title.
b) nearly as much meaning to the Nuggets, who will continue to squint hard and believe that given a full year A.I./Melo will make them contenders too. And to the Warriors, who will not go anywhere, but will of course want to build on last year's momentum.
c) are the necessary and next step forward for young teams on the rise in New Orleans and Portland who have the bulk of their young rosters already completed.
-------------------------------The Great Divide-----------------------
d) Unfortunately seem to have meaning for the Wolves, Lakers, Clippers and possibly even Grizzlies. Those teams would likely be better off doing the rebuild. But they are caught trying to appease KG, Kobe, Pau and Brand all in their primes and so they struggle on, without any real hope. They are all thinking "we're just one player away!" But the one player is a 2nd superstar, they can't get him, and until they do they are better off missing the playoffs and hoping to egt lucky in the draft than wasting their time as fodder.
e) have almost no meaning at all to Sacramento and Seattle. Both in the beginning stages of true rebuilds (Seattle is ahead of the game with Durant).
this is the Portland plan^^^...and it's just now starting to obviously pay off...but we've got Petrie, who I might be thinking is going(or hoping to go)the Utah route and get the ship righted in only 2 seasons or so, while at the same time keeping hope alive with exciting(even with lack of wins)hard, play.
i agree with want your saying, even though we may be in a slump right now, i don't want to see a lackless talent team no one's ever heard of, i wanna actually be entertained, and who knows we could have a really fun team to watch but if we make any trades mentioned within the last few weeks we will be in full boredom mode and if that happends we might as well start hibernating now.
I agree with Sac4cwebb in keeping Mike and Ron if a GOOD trade is available. IMHO, I think the lineup is going to remain the same and I think the starting lineup should be Bibby, Martin, Artest, Williams, Hawes. Hopefully, Theus gives Williams and Hawes plenty of playing time so they can become better players. By the way, it is still early in the offseason, you never know what Petrie might have up his sleeve.
They will come back. They always do so long as you lkost them over W/Ls. They are back in Dalls. Back in Cleveland. They will be back in Portland. They always come back. The important thing is to do the job right, and as quickly as possible. To give the fans 2 or maybe 3 years to drift away, not 6 or 7. Tear the bandaid off all at once. Get a move on.
You keep saying that, Brickie, but there's no way to really know for sure, especially with the arena situation hanging over them like the sword of Damacles. That's why I said you have to strike some kind of happy medium; the product on the floor doesn't have to win but it has to have something - like fun or at least young kids learning to get better.