Adelman to the Rockets (title revised 5/21)

supamari0

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Well, according to some chinese outlets, Adelman is the lead guy that they're targeting in houston. In case you don't know, Van Gundy basically declined a contract extension because they refused to give him one last year. I'm not too sad because it just looked like we couldn't go any further with him. Great guy, but it just wasn't working out.

But everyone in houston keeps shouting Adelman's name. This is probably the best team with an opening so I wouldn't be too shocked but its all speculation right now. Still, it's interesting to think about how he'd utilize Yao and T-Mac.
 
4cwebb

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Interesting. On a probably unrelated note, I wonder if Bonzi would be willing to try again with the Rockets if Adelman is on board?

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pdxKingsFan

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I'm sure Adelman's on a lot of people's lists but I also imagine he'll wind up with whatever job he wants in Portland this year or the next.
 
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Of course, if I were Rick, I'd be looking more closely at the Orlando job. Dwight Howard on the way to being a superstar, just a couple players away from being a contender in the Eastern conference.

Then again, within a year or two, the Rockets could easily come out of the West. Just need a steady, efficient point guard. Then you throw in that Rick apparently wants no part of the East coast, and he'd probably wind up in Houston (opportunity to win lots of games in three or four seasons on the bench, moving up on the all-time wins list) before Orlando.
 
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supamari0 said:
Well, according to some chinese outlets, Adelman is the lead guy that they're targeting in houston. In case you don't know, Van Gundy basically declined a contract extension because they refused to give him one last year. I'm not too sad because it just looked like we couldn't go any further with him. Great guy, but it just wasn't working out.

But everyone in houston keeps shouting Adelman's name. This is probably the best team with an opening so I wouldn't be too shocked but its all speculation right now. Still, it's interesting to think about how he'd utilize Yao and T-Mac.
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If they get Adelman and a solid PG, they'll be pretty damn good.
 
supamari0

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http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/p...n=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1

Looks like Adelman is the #1 target now. They just interviewed him (despite the fact that JVG is still under contract, although the Rockets can opt-out at the end of June, so bye bye JVG) I'm also not sure any other team has interviewed with Adelman.

Our owner is basically convinced that from a pure marketing perspective, JVG's offensive scheme was pure hell to watch (and at times it really was). It probably was the most simplistic offense imaginable (dump it to Yao, he either scores or kicks out for a three, or T-Mac penetrates, scores or kicks it out for a three)

So Les Alexander (Rockets owner) is trying to find the most offensive minded coach he can get and thus you get Rick Adelman. Hopefully some of JVG's defense sticks in their head. I figure we may lose in the first round again with Adelman but at least it'll be more fun to watch this time around.
 
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Okay, am I the only one who sees the irony in Adelman going to Houston to coach the team the Maloofs owned from 1979 through 1982?
 
Bricklayer

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Well not in the defensive category anymore! Ha. :D
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If he can take a team anchored by Vlade Divac and make them the #1 defensive team in the league, should be able to do something with a team anchored by Yao.

Allowing them to actually score will be a unique concept though.
 
acisking

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Bricklayer said:
If he can take a team anchored by Vlade Divac and make them the #1 defensive team in the league, should be able to do something with a team anchored by Yao.

Allowing them to actually score will be a unique concept though.
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That is a good point....people often forget how good the Kings were defensively in 02-03.
 
Ryle

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Little double standard there as Adelaman whined when the Maloofs called Phil Jackson's agent so I guess it's okay for him to interview with the Rockets while Van Gundy is still under contract???

Houston will be a top 5 team only if Yao can stay healthy as it's pretty much been shown that McGrady can't do it alone. With Yao's history the last 2 years(about 50 games played on average) it doesn't look to good unless he can work on his conditioning.
 
supamari0

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Ryle said:
Little double standard there as Adelaman whined when the Maloofs called Phil Jackson's agent so I guess it's okay for him to interview with the Rockets while Van Gundy is still under contract???

Houston will be a top 5 team only if Yao can stay healthy as it's pretty much been shown that McGrady can't do it alone. With Yao's history the last 2 years(about 50 games played on average) it doesn't look to good unless he can work on his conditioning.
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It has nothing to do with his conditioning. Yao is the hardest working player on the Rockets, everyone keeps praising him on that. You can't question his work ethic.

His problem is that he's been a victim of freak injuries. Last year, Okur broke his foot. This year, Tim Thomas undercuts him and fractures his tibia. And two years ago, someone injured his elbow. That's just bad luck, plain and simple. Hopefully, his luck gets better.
 
Jerryaki

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Ryle said:
Little double standard there as Adelaman whined when the Maloofs called Phil Jackson's agent so I guess it's okay for him to interview with the Rockets while Van Gundy is still under contract???
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you really hate adelman huh?

i thought JVG is all but gone from his coaching gig in houston. a bit of difference between someone who is still a coach, versus someone who is technically still a coach.
 
uolj

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Ryle said:
Little double standard there as Adelaman whined when the Maloofs called Phil Jackson's agent so I guess it's okay for him to interview with the Rockets while Van Gundy is still under contract???
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I actually agree with this, although I fault the team in both situations more than Adelman or Jackson.

Still, I'd love to see Adelman coach the Rockets.
 
Bricklayer

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Difference: Rick still wanted to coach the Kings. JVG himself was the first one to raise the possibility he would be bailing on the Rockets. In addition, as I understand it, JVGs contract is effectively over with just some non-guaranteed option year or some such that has yet to be picked up. For them to go so far as to interview Adelman I can only assume that management and Jeff have spoken and that he's out. Either that or that they are as classless as the Maloofs.

And BTW, should be an obvious point that it was not Phil Jackson who was being slimy by listening to overtures from the Maloofs for Rick's job. It was the Maloofs who were being slimy for making such overtures without even the decency to inform their current coach. I would assume that Alexander and JVG have spoken in this case.
 
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Bricklayer said:
Difference: Rick still wanted to coach the Kings. JVG himself was the first one to raise the possibility he would be bailing on the Rockets. In addition, as I understand it, JVGs contract is effectively over with just some non-guaranteed option year or some such that has yet to be picked up. For them to go so far as to interview Adelman I can only assume that management and Jeff have spoken and that he's out. Either that or that they are as classless as the Maloofs.

And BTW, should be an obvious point that it was not Phil Jackson who was being slimy by listening to overtures from the Maloofs for Rick's job. It was the Maloofs who were being slimy for making such overtures without even the decency to inform their current coach. I would assume that Alexander and JVG have spoken in this case.
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That and the fact that, if you're deciding whether or not to exercise an option on a coach's contract, you probably want to talk to some candidates who might actually be better options to coach your team. You know, before you make a decision.

I just call it due diligence.
 
supamari0

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Superman said:
That and the fact that, if you're deciding whether or not to exercise an option on a coach's contract, you probably want to talk to some candidates who might actually be better options to coach your team. You know, before you make a decision.

I just call it due diligence.
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Yeah but NBA coaches have egos. I don't think Van Gundy is too happy that the Rockets are already interviewing candidates before he has even decided whether or not to return. If the Rockets really wanted him back, they wouldn't do anything to pee him off anymore, especially considering Van Gundy doesn't have the best relationship with the owner of the Rockets.

Although now its safe to say that Van Gundy is gone. Hopefully, Adelman is our guy. I don't want the Rockets to hire someone stupid like Sam Mitchell.
 
PurpleHaze

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and remember Adelman was originally drafted by the Rockets in 1968. He played with them for 2 years when they were the San Diego Rockets - so he has those ties to the franchise way back in the day.
 
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supamari0 said:
Yeah but NBA coaches have egos. I don't think Van Gundy is too happy that the Rockets are already interviewing candidates before he has even decided whether or not to return. If the Rockets really wanted him back, they wouldn't do anything to pee him off anymore, especially considering Van Gundy doesn't have the best relationship with the owner of the Rockets.

Although now its safe to say that Van Gundy is gone. Hopefully, Adelman is our guy. I don't want the Rockets to hire someone stupid like Sam Mitchell.
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Van Gundy hasn't made his decision known publicly. So since the Rockets also have an option to terminate the contract, it just makes sense that they would check the scene out before deciding.
 
supamari0

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Superman said:
Van Gundy hasn't made his decision known publicly. So since the Rockets also have an option to terminate the contract, it just makes sense that they would check the scene out before deciding.
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Right, but the option is a two-way option. Van Gundy has to opt-in and then the team has the option to either extend the contract or kill it. Van Gundy has yet to opt-in so if they were hoping that he would, well they just killed off that chance by interviewing Adelman.

Not that I have a problem with that. I think this team needs some offensive creativity and the Princeton Offense would be a good fit. Hopefully, we keep the old assistant coaches (namely Tom Thibadou who the Kings are interviewing) and we can maintain some of the defensive prowess that we had under Van Gundy.
 
Bricklayer

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Minor point, and a mistake that even some Kings fans make, but Adelman does NOT necessarily bring the Princeton with him. That was a relic of a particular situation where we had the guy who actually invented "the Princeton offense" (Pete Carril) on the bench as an assistant, and one of his former players who played in it as our GM (Petrie). Rick adopted it and adapted parts of it for his needs (the Kings never ran the pure system), but its just one offensive system amongst many he has used. His old Portland teams never ran it all so far as I can recall. So maybe it would pop up down in Houston, maybe not. Certainly part of his arsenal now, but given the current personnel would not be at all surprised if he ran a different hybrid type system.

Either way, I'm sure the Rockets will score more than they did under JVG. A LOT more.
 
sloter

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There is no way that the Rockets squad would be able to run Princeton offense. They are not that good of a passing team and I don't think that moving Yao further away from the basket would be that great of idea.
The only other option is that they run their offense through Howard and that just sounds scary.
 
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