Clippers want Artest
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Not sure if this was talked about, but a guy from the LA times came on sportsline.
He said that right now the Clippers are waiting for the Kings to get back to them.
Grant said from what he understands that Geoff has talked to about 25 teams in the last 4 weeks dealing with a number of players and trade scenarios.
The guy from the La times added yeah Bibby was one of them, Grant said "yeah" without skipping a beat. But, Grant said he spoke with the Kings media liason and he says that this trade will not happen by Friday as the Clippers would like, and probably not at all. It just doesn't make the Kings neccessarily better.
Grant said, now do I think he (Ron Artest) will be a King past the trade deadline? No.
The guy from the LA times added that he knows someone that is close to Artest and this person says that Artest isn't happy right now, even though publicly Artest is saying the right things.
Just giving out the info in case it wasn't reported on the board.
He said that right now the Clippers are waiting for the Kings to get back to them.
Grant said from what he understands that Geoff has talked to about 25 teams in the last 4 weeks dealing with a number of players and trade scenarios.
The guy from the La times added yeah Bibby was one of them, Grant said "yeah" without skipping a beat. But, Grant said he spoke with the Kings media liason and he says that this trade will not happen by Friday as the Clippers would like, and probably not at all. It just doesn't make the Kings neccessarily better.
Grant said, now do I think he (Ron Artest) will be a King past the trade deadline? No.
The guy from the LA times added that he knows someone that is close to Artest and this person says that Artest isn't happy right now, even though publicly Artest is saying the right things.
Just giving out the info in case it wasn't reported on the board.
Thanks, Doc. This is kinda being discussed in the main forum in the LA TIMES artest thread, although that one is rapidly turning into a discussion of Bibby...
Grant quoting the media liaison as a reliable source is like quoting Sam Amick. That guy is paid to make sure nothing leaks out until/unless the organization wants it out.
And Grant saying Geoff has talked to a majority of teams in the last month is the ultimate "Well, duh..." Why wouldn't he have talked to other teams? That's part of his job.
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Grant quoting the media liaison as a reliable source is like quoting Sam Amick. That guy is paid to make sure nothing leaks out until/unless the organization wants it out.
And Grant saying Geoff has talked to a majority of teams in the last month is the ultimate "Well, duh..." Why wouldn't he have talked to other teams? That's part of his job.
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sigh...
Trade Artest for Maggette and a 1st rounder, sign Gerald Wallace in the offseason (free agent), use a big man with both first round picks, trade Bibby for Rafer Alston, Shane Battier and a first round pick, and turn into the Phoenix Suns.
07-08:
Rafer Alston, Kevin Martin, Brad Miller, Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette
Run for fun all over again!
I love the land of make believe.
07-08:
Rafer Alston, Kevin Martin, Brad Miller, Gerald Wallace, Corey Maggette
Run for fun all over again!
I love the land of make believe.
I decided that the only way I am trading Ron to the Clippers is if we can give them Garcia and get back BOTH picks, the Clips pick and the Twolves pick. Then our pick and those two picks I am trading to MN if KG demands a trade by the deadline and I'm giving them our expirings in that deal for KG+T-Hud+Wright. So it ends up looking like the 3 picks+Bibby+Williamson+Pot+Hart for KG, Hudson and maybe Wright(I'm not sure if this works under the cap but I THINK it does). They don't like it? Too bad for them than, because they won't be able to rebuild effectively without their pick 1 of the next 2 years. Then I am finding a way to trade Maggette for a more defensive SF, and probably trade Shareef too(he and Kenny will really get mad if they have KG in front of them). Resulting line up: Salmons/Kev/Maggette(temporary)/Garnett/Miller. We do Clippers a favor by giving them Ron and a young player, they do us a favor by helping us get KG. Otherwise I'm trading Ron somewhere else if I have to trade him.
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Rafer Alston running a Suns-esque offense?? HAHAHA
Rafer's such a clown and is a joke. The guy has consistently digressed with his shooting and for a streetball legend, he's awful at penetrating to the basket. On top of that, he's a turnstile on defense. His court vision isn't that great either. But he's good for a ridiculous And-1 type pass or play every now and then.
I suppose you could tell him to let loose and do a Jason Williams impersonation. (He's probably the only guy in the league who could come remotely close to doing what J-Dub did in Sacto) It would mess up the offense even more but it would be fun to see again.
Rafer's such a clown and is a joke. The guy has consistently digressed with his shooting and for a streetball legend, he's awful at penetrating to the basket. On top of that, he's a turnstile on defense. His court vision isn't that great either. But he's good for a ridiculous And-1 type pass or play every now and then.
I suppose you could tell him to let loose and do a Jason Williams impersonation. (He's probably the only guy in the league who could come remotely close to doing what J-Dub did in Sacto) It would mess up the offense even more but it would be fun to see again.
From today's espn insider *I'm doing a 30 day free trial*
'No' Trade
Dec 30 - The likelihood of the widely rumored deal between the Kings and Clippers being realized continues to appear minimal, especially if it involves no pieces beyond Ron Artest and Corey Maggette.
Artest has plenty of supporters in Los Angeles, including Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy.
Artest also is close with Clippers forward Elton Brand, dating to their high school days. -- Sacramento Bee
A reported deal sending Artest to the Clippers and bringing swingman Corey Maggette to the Kings would have had Brand's approval.
"Yeah, a little," Brand said when asked if he was excited by the reports claiming Artest could join the Clippers. "But you can't get excited until something happens." Clippers owner Donald Sterling shook his head when asked if Artest was coming his way, saying, "No, no, no." -- Sacramento Bee
"Nothing's going on now," Dunleavy said. "But we're open for business for any team that calls."
According to Dunleavy, Maggette's agent, Rob Pelinka, asked the Clippers if they could explore trade possibilities because Maggette is unhappy with his non-starting role and inconsistent minutes.
It does not seem that a Maggette for Ron Artest deal is going to be made, chiefly because King owners Joe Maloof and Gavin Maloof have expressed the desire to keep Artest. -- Orange County Register
With general manager Elgin Baylor settled into his courtside seat, the Clippers went another day without a trade, although attempts to move Maggette are still being made and could happen at any time. -- Los Angeles Daily News
'No' Trade
Dec 30 - The likelihood of the widely rumored deal between the Kings and Clippers being realized continues to appear minimal, especially if it involves no pieces beyond Ron Artest and Corey Maggette.
Artest has plenty of supporters in Los Angeles, including Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy.
Artest also is close with Clippers forward Elton Brand, dating to their high school days. -- Sacramento Bee
A reported deal sending Artest to the Clippers and bringing swingman Corey Maggette to the Kings would have had Brand's approval.
"Yeah, a little," Brand said when asked if he was excited by the reports claiming Artest could join the Clippers. "But you can't get excited until something happens." Clippers owner Donald Sterling shook his head when asked if Artest was coming his way, saying, "No, no, no." -- Sacramento Bee
"Nothing's going on now," Dunleavy said. "But we're open for business for any team that calls."
According to Dunleavy, Maggette's agent, Rob Pelinka, asked the Clippers if they could explore trade possibilities because Maggette is unhappy with his non-starting role and inconsistent minutes.
It does not seem that a Maggette for Ron Artest deal is going to be made, chiefly because King owners Joe Maloof and Gavin Maloof have expressed the desire to keep Artest. -- Orange County Register
With general manager Elgin Baylor settled into his courtside seat, the Clippers went another day without a trade, although attempts to move Maggette are still being made and could happen at any time. -- Los Angeles Daily News
This whole Artest / Maggette trade started with a article in the LA papers.. It was a done deal according to them.
And then it came out that it was Petrie who called the Clippers and asked for the trade, but the Maloof's liked Artest and didn't want to part with him.
I guess I don't know who to believe.. Not the sports writers, any that I know anyway.. which are none.
I ask myself why would Petrie call about a backcourt player since that isn't what we need... unless to ask about a K9 for Maggette trade or to see if they wanted to do a Kamen / Brand type of deal..
If Petrie wanted to do a Artest/Maggette trade and he called the Clippers it would be all over by now. These newspapers sure like to waste a lot of ink..
And then it came out that it was Petrie who called the Clippers and asked for the trade, but the Maloof's liked Artest and didn't want to part with him.
I guess I don't know who to believe.. Not the sports writers, any that I know anyway.. which are none.
I ask myself why would Petrie call about a backcourt player since that isn't what we need... unless to ask about a K9 for Maggette trade or to see if they wanted to do a Kamen / Brand type of deal..
If Petrie wanted to do a Artest/Maggette trade and he called the Clippers it would be all over by now. These newspapers sure like to waste a lot of ink..
Well, Artest is aware by now that he is being shopped, so I think he will keep his behaviour in line. We can afford to wait a little bit, as teams become more desparate for an impact player to make a playoff push. As I've stated before, we are going to need youth/picks/enders for Artest, and not just some other team's malcontent. I think he ends up out East, and we get a nice first rounder out of it.
SI.com - Observation Deck
An Artest trade that needs to happen
The NBA was rocked to its core on Sunday when news of a sensible trade that would seemingly benefit both sides hit the street in the form of the Los Angeles Times' Sunday edition. The scuttle says that Ron Artest, who can't be persuaded to take the court these days in Sacramento purple, could go to the Clippers for scoring swingman Corey Maggette in a swap Los Angeles nearly consummated with Artest's former team in Indiana last winter.
The deal needs to go down. It will hardly act as a panacea for either squad, but it will recharge both and serve as a bit of motivation as things start to get serious. Both the Kings (11-14 through Monday) and Clippers (11-15) are underachieving, as both of the burly players in question have fallen into distraction mode. Maggette far less than Artest, of course. Maggette has been dealing with trade rumors for a year and a half and has been pretty professional through the whole thing. His play has been quite good, but this didn't stop him from asking for a trade via his agent.
Artest has been throwing lobs through the media at point guard Mike Bibby (struggling, to be sure, but also playing through injuries) and new coach Eric Musselman. He pulled out of a nationally televised loss to Washington just minutes before tip-off last Thursday, and has worn out his welcome after a 10-month test drive.
The Kings should send Artest and defensive point guard Jason Hart (Sam Cassell has plantar fasciitis, an injury that just doesn't go away) to the Clippers for Maggette and Yaroslav Korolev, a former lottery pick who has shown nothing in limited minutes.
Nobody gets hurt in a deal like this. Until, of course, the Kings realize that Maggette (despite all his talent and dogged determination) isn't the answer to making them a strong playoff team, and the Clippers realize just how much Ron Ron thinks of his offensive repertoire.
By Kelly Dwyer
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/kelly_dwyer/12/26/observation.deck/index.html
An Artest trade that needs to happen
The NBA was rocked to its core on Sunday when news of a sensible trade that would seemingly benefit both sides hit the street in the form of the Los Angeles Times' Sunday edition. The scuttle says that Ron Artest, who can't be persuaded to take the court these days in Sacramento purple, could go to the Clippers for scoring swingman Corey Maggette in a swap Los Angeles nearly consummated with Artest's former team in Indiana last winter.
The deal needs to go down. It will hardly act as a panacea for either squad, but it will recharge both and serve as a bit of motivation as things start to get serious. Both the Kings (11-14 through Monday) and Clippers (11-15) are underachieving, as both of the burly players in question have fallen into distraction mode. Maggette far less than Artest, of course. Maggette has been dealing with trade rumors for a year and a half and has been pretty professional through the whole thing. His play has been quite good, but this didn't stop him from asking for a trade via his agent.
Artest has been throwing lobs through the media at point guard Mike Bibby (struggling, to be sure, but also playing through injuries) and new coach Eric Musselman. He pulled out of a nationally televised loss to Washington just minutes before tip-off last Thursday, and has worn out his welcome after a 10-month test drive.
The Kings should send Artest and defensive point guard Jason Hart (Sam Cassell has plantar fasciitis, an injury that just doesn't go away) to the Clippers for Maggette and Yaroslav Korolev, a former lottery pick who has shown nothing in limited minutes.
Nobody gets hurt in a deal like this. Until, of course, the Kings realize that Maggette (despite all his talent and dogged determination) isn't the answer to making them a strong playoff team, and the Clippers realize just how much Ron Ron thinks of his offensive repertoire.
By Kelly Dwyer
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/kelly_dwyer/12/26/observation.deck/index.html
