Voisin: Right now, Salmons is swimming upstream

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Ailene Voisin: Right now, Salmons is swimming upstream
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Sports Columnist
Last Updated 12:07 am PDT Friday, October 6, 2006

No, John Salmons is no Bonzi Wells. Different role. Different skills. Different physique. Different personality. Very different expectations.

In fact, the Kings' major offseason signee doesn't replace Bonzi Wells as much as he creates an opening and enhances the depth on an evolving roster.

Young shooting guard Kevin Martin earned the starting job during Wells' injury absence last season, his second-half emergence -- more of an eruption than incremental improvement -- coinciding with the arrival of Ron Artest and the squad's sudden, aggressive style.

So unless one of Martin's twiggy-thin limbs snaps in two, the job is his to lose. He knows it. His teammates know it. His coach knows it. The official "job vacant" sign and Salmons' lucrative five-year, $25 million contract notwithstanding, Eric Musselman is simply too diplomatic, too shrewd, too experienced to utter anything that might jeopardize the combative nature of his inaugural Kings training camp.

But Martin starts. Write it down. Use pen over pencil.

Salmons finds himself in a position not unlike that of his first four seasons with the Philadelphia 76ers, coveting a starter's role, yet realistically positioned to fail or flourish as a backup. And without conceding anything at this point, the wiry 6-foot-6, 207-pound veteran says he will adapt, and if necessary, abide with a grudging grin and a nod.

"I tried for four years to force things, and that didn't work out," the soft-spoken Salmons said after a recent practice. "This is a different approach for me. You can't play your best if you're always worrying about things like starting. I played for five coaches in four years. Wherever or whenever coach (Musselman) wants me to play, I'm fine with that."

Once Martin is proclaimed the starter, the burden of unreasonable expectations eases considerably. The comparisons with Wells shrink with each outing. Bonzi had his problems before joining the Kings, but he was a rare, muscular Kings presence in the postseason, endearing himself to the fans. At the very least, his mammoth effort against the San Antonio Spurs mitigated his frequent injuries and noticeable weight gain, though perhaps, unwisely inflated his sense of self-worth on the free-agent market. Bonzi clearly guessed wrong and lost, with no organization topping the Kings' original offer.

Enter Salmons, who has considerable value as a multi-skilled contributor, particularly given the current state of the league. With conventional 7-foot post players increasingly precious and few, the Western Conference continues tilting toward quickness and athleticism, toward a faster pace and pressure defenses, with teams accumulating talent accordingly.

Denver coach George Karl is promising a return to Doug Moe's triple-digit offenses. Mike D'Antoni is accelerating the Phoenix Suns' rebound-and-run attack. Don Nelson is back in Golden State, and we all know what that means for small ball; Mike Dunleavy might become the first point power forward in the league.

Salmons, who flirted with the Toronto Raptors, Suns and Miami Heat before signing with the Kings, thus can insinuate himself into a very good situation -- provided he works himself into better shape. Indeed, first impressions were not altogether favorable; Musselman surely can't be pleased that his most important newcomer has yet to pass the conditioning test.

Based on observations near the end of practice, Salmons at times appears to glide rather than sprint to his assigned spots, his movements and demeanor surprisingly casual for someone craving big-time minutes. And with much to prove. The Philadelphia native arrives with underwhelming stats and the reputation as a gifted, but unproven and uneven performer.

"I agree. I agree. I agree," he acknowledged. "I understand what's at hand and what's going on, with my future in the NBA and everything. The biggest adjustment is getting Philly out of my mind. Every year I had to adjust to something new. One of my biggest concerns was how the players were going to accept me. I'm sure everyone expected him (Wells) back. That's on the surface. That's the first thing people see. I'm the new guy. But this is the right place. I know this is where I should be."

The Kings showed him the money. This is his time to show some game.

About the writer: Reach Ailene Voisin at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com
 
#6
Hopefully the front office will make the right decisions about who stays and who goes. If he doesn't work out, I hope that they left themselves a loop in his contract....
 
#8
The test is a Muss thing for all the players. Artest barely passed it.

I wouldn't read too much into it unless he doesn't ever pass it, sounds like it's a high bar.
 
#9
salmons just got paid more than hes worth, i wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt show much agression since hes got paid....looks like hes gonna take his money and be happy being a very mediocre player
 

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#10
salmons just got paid more than hes worth, i wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt show much agression since hes got paid....looks like hes gonna take his money and be happy being a very mediocre player
don't think its the money -- this is the way he's been his entire career. Not exactly the most driven guy and coasts. Be a challenge to see if Muss can light a fire under his butt.
 
#11
If he's been sloppy his entire career, lighting a fire under his butt wouldn't make him jump above the surface. Or the headline should have said "salmons is floating downstream"
 
#14
Ugh, I dont want him to start. I wanna see kmart and douby play more... my 2 fav players from the Kings and possibly overall... I really think Kmart is ready to take the load... he has definitely improved...
 
#18
Lets not jump to any conclusions on Salmons just yet. Give him a chance to get through training camp and preseason, don't hang him just yet.
I agree, he will never be KMart or Cisco fast, I see him more like a butter bean Bonzi, kind of like George Foreman. Look at Sweetney on the Bulls, he has been eating too many sweet buns if you ask me. Some players, people in general always have to fight putting on weight, some people don't and others have to fight just as hard to hold their weight and put on some pounds.


What test are we talking about here. Do they have to climb ropes and do a military boot camp or something. Do they need to pass to make the team? I say give the guys a little time, but with the amount of guys we have now fighting for spots, he better bring it on the court and with conditioning.

I never understood how people could get so much $ playing the Sport they love and then have such a hard time keeping in shape. Try working a 9 to 5 job and think how much better you have it and how much $ you are making, and how you only have like 10-12 years or less where you are young enough that people actually care and spend $ to watch you and the team play. Players just take this for granted, I don't like how the NBA is set up that a player can play for his pay day and then slack off and just go through the motions. Other sports like football actually hold a lot of accountability and don't let you do this, otherwise you'll be sitting on your couch at home out of a job.
 
#19
I am already questioning Salmons and if someone tells me that the preseason hasn't even started and that's why hes not hustling, then they are in denial. The preseason is based on training camp. You suck in camp and your preseason will suck as well. Salmons needs to hustle, perhaps a madman with a loaded shotgun chasing after him might do the trick?
 
#20
I agree, he will never be KMart or Cisco fast, I see him more like a butter bean Bonzi, kind of like George Foreman. Look at Sweetney on the Bulls, he has been eating too many sweet buns if you ask me. Some players, people in general always have to fight putting on weight, some people don't and others have to fight just as hard to hold their weight and put on some pounds.


What test are we talking about here. Do they have to climb ropes and do a military boot camp or something. Do they need to pass to make the team? I say give the guys a little time, but with the amount of guys we have now fighting for spots, he better bring it on the court and with conditioning.

I never understood how people could get so much $ playing the Sport they love and then have such a hard time keeping in shape. Try working a 9 to 5 job and think how much better you have it and how much $ you are making, and how you only have like 10-12 years or less where you are young enough that people actually care and spend $ to watch you and the team play. Players just take this for granted, I don't like how the NBA is set up that a player can play for his pay day and then slack off and just go through the motions. Other sports like football actually hold a lot of accountability and don't let you do this, otherwise you'll be sitting on your couch at home out of a job.
That is an excuse for him not passing. If Corliss and Brad can make it, then Salmons can most certainly. Artest i understand somewhat because he is a big guy, but Salmons is not nearly as buff as Artest and should be able to finish the sprints.
 
#21
Wow!!!

How can we be so down on this guy, and he has not even attempted a jump shot yet. For crying out loud, you do not win basketball games running friggin sprints.

Give the guy a chance why don't you.:mad:
 

Bricklayer

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#22
I'm more down on him because he's always been a dog in his career. But the windsprint issue itself? Just a blip. But hardly a surprise. Its like hearing that Eddie Curry reported to camp carrying a couple dozen extra Big Macs around his waist. Just part of the package.
 
#24
Salmons will be fine. The other article specifically said that the test was harder for the guards than the forwards. As long as we don't have to see Hart playing I am fine.
 
#25
I'm more down on him because he's always been a dog in his career. But the windsprint issue itself? Just a blip. But hardly a surprise. Its like hearing that Eddie Curry reported to camp carrying a couple dozen extra Big Macs around his waist. Just part of the package.
Exactly... and I have been down on him since we got him and we had all the threads here calling him the next comming.

Salmons sucks plain and simple. Until he proves it otherwise on the court this may be ONE of the worst players per salary we have had. With all that said I am willing to give him a chance, However I am expecting nothing but TRADE/DROP salmons threads after about week 3.
 
#26
All this coming from the same woman that thought Chris Webber was the worst player ever to play the game.

she also said numerous times last year that corliss shoudl start over peja...how did she jet a job writing about nba? i wonder if isaiah thomas hired her?
 

Entity

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#28
Exactly... and I have been down on him since we got him and we had all the threads here calling him the next comming.

Salmons sucks plain and simple. Until he proves it otherwise on the court this may be ONE of the worst players per salary we have had. With all that said I am willing to give him a chance, However I am expecting nothing but TRADE/DROP salmons threads after about week 3.

Since you can see in the future as to what Salmons does with the kings to say he sucks and all that crap. could you tell me what the score is in our first game i am looking to win some money and with your power of being able to see in the future i could do well.
 
#29
Since you can see in the future as to what Salmons does with the kings to say he sucks and all that crap. could you tell me what the score is in our first game i am looking to win some money and with your power of being able to see in the future i could do well.
LOL actually I was 2 games off our total win total last year I am the guy you should be talking to if your wagering... Note the ONLY one that predicted the suck that happend.

Honestly how is that a hard prediction? Salmons has sucked his entire career a typical underachiever... So this year is different? Obvious early reports answer that. Your problem with reality is what?
 

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#30
i have no problem just trying to see where the line in your mind is in which and NBA player Sucks and doesn't suck. You say early reports. What you should say is others opinions. As I didn't pay much attention the bench of the 76ers in which 98% of the time AI or CWebb is going to take the shot or pass to the other to take the shot. Any points anybody else got on that team is just leftovers in which they only had about 4 sec on the shot clock left so they had to throw up a prayer. Now you take Salmons when AI had a DNP and tell me did that suck?

Now I am not saying he is the second coming because Kevin Martin is. But just don't go saying somebody sucks when you haven't seen but a handful of games playing in one of the poorest systems in the league