Grade our Off-season so far
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That's not actually true -- not sure why people keep saying that.
Memphis, sure -- whether they had a good or bad offseason all depends on Rudy Gay. If he's a stud, they improved. If he's a dud, they did not and may have even regressed.
But the Lakers = added Radmanovic. Player of significance.
The Clippers = get back a healthy Corey Maggette, which could be huge. 20ppg scorer who played in only 32 games last year.
The Nuggets = get back Nene to restore the frontline and added J.R. Smith to plug the OG hole.
I don't think any of those teams made moves to make them contenders, but they all are gaining more than they lost. Not to mention Houston (getting TMac back, + Battier), Minnesota (Mike James + Randy Foye), Golden State (Don Nelson), Utah (get Boozer for a full season after only 31 games, add Fisher for PG help), Phoenix (Amare is back, + Marcus Banks), and New Orleans (Peja + Chandler).
Gonna be tough.
Memphis, sure -- whether they had a good or bad offseason all depends on Rudy Gay. If he's a stud, they improved. If he's a dud, they did not and may have even regressed.
But the Lakers = added Radmanovic. Player of significance.
The Clippers = get back a healthy Corey Maggette, which could be huge. 20ppg scorer who played in only 32 games last year.
The Nuggets = get back Nene to restore the frontline and added J.R. Smith to plug the OG hole.
I don't think any of those teams made moves to make them contenders, but they all are gaining more than they lost. Not to mention Houston (getting TMac back, + Battier), Minnesota (Mike James + Randy Foye), Golden State (Don Nelson), Utah (get Boozer for a full season after only 31 games, add Fisher for PG help), Phoenix (Amare is back, + Marcus Banks), and New Orleans (Peja + Chandler).
Gonna be tough.
Well they did improve but BMiller52 mention they "REALLY" improved, and i'm not sure what they did that made them really improve Nellie is a good addition because the Warriors don't have tough players they usually have soft ones like Troy Murphy. Monty is getting alot of blame sometimes being the scapegoat can be the worst thing a person can taste as a human.
The Warriors improved enough to win more games then last year but enough to take them to the playoffs? no.
The Warriors improved enough to win more games then last year but enough to take them to the playoffs? no.
I'm not sure how many of those additions are true impace players. There wasn't a lot of significant player movement this offseason.
Out of the big three you mention.
Lakers - How much of a big impact player Rad is can be debated. He can shoot, but doesn't play D or rebound
Clippers - If Maggette plays a full year he will help, but Cassell and Mobley aging will hurt.
Denver - Even if Nene stays healthy, he hasn't shown much beyond having potential even when he has played. And while Smith certainly has potential as well, he got burried on the Hornets bench and given away by the Bulls for peanuts. It's too early to say that he will fill their hole at SG.
With the exception of NO (players) and GS (coach), most team's improvement will be a combination of staying healthy (no suprise) and player development.
Comparing the Lakers and Kings as two examples, the real difference next season will be how Kwame/Sasha/Parker/Farmar develop versus Martin/Garcia/Salmons/Douby. If our four develop further than their four, Rad will not be enough to make them a better team than us.
Out of the big three you mention.
Lakers - How much of a big impact player Rad is can be debated. He can shoot, but doesn't play D or rebound
Clippers - If Maggette plays a full year he will help, but Cassell and Mobley aging will hurt.
Denver - Even if Nene stays healthy, he hasn't shown much beyond having potential even when he has played. And while Smith certainly has potential as well, he got burried on the Hornets bench and given away by the Bulls for peanuts. It's too early to say that he will fill their hole at SG.
With the exception of NO (players) and GS (coach), most team's improvement will be a combination of staying healthy (no suprise) and player development.
Comparing the Lakers and Kings as two examples, the real difference next season will be how Kwame/Sasha/Parker/Farmar develop versus Martin/Garcia/Salmons/Douby. If our four develop further than their four, Rad will not be enough to make them a better team than us.
I'll stick with my story. Other than than the T-Mac's and Amare's, nothing on that list is nearly as big as having Artest for a whole season instead of half. It's tempered a bit by losing 52 games of Bonzi, but not by that much, and as said by some above, a lot of those teams had their improvements tempered by losses.
When its all laid out like that I still think we are right there with any team but the clear top 3. We could be 4th or 10th in the West.
When its all laid out like that I still think we are right there with any team but the clear top 3. We could be 4th or 10th in the West.
Its hard not to believe that Smith wont start making an impact in the league. He's shooting is a bit iffy, but hes got all the tools to become a great og. His development was hindered by Paul, and of course Scott. I'm sure hes got to grow up a bit, but its only a matter of time. Time the bulls i just dont think wanted to waste.
It's not his vertical, it's his toughness. The guy is a scarecrow and isn't physical at all. Earl Boykins could body him up and push him around. He's one of those people that is just extremely lucky he's 7' tall (like say, Gregg Ostertag) , because if he was 6'6" or 6'7" he wouldn't be tough enough to play college ball.
I actually agree with you. However, I was responding more to the point that he would "plug the Nuggets hole at SG." He has a lot of upside and if he does have a good work ethic and good focus he should become a good player. However, he has been dumped by two teams and there's a strong chance that he will not be able to significantly contribute until next season.
BTW, let's not forget in NO, he did not simply get burried behind Paul. He completely fell out of favor with Byron Scott to the point he was stuck on the end of the bench.
BTW, let's not forget in NO, he did not simply get burried behind Paul. He completely fell out of favor with Byron Scott to the point he was stuck on the end of the bench.