De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

[Section 101]

Even if Pop comes back, I don't think he'd stick around for too much longer with his age and health issues.

Hey! Maybe they can hire Brown! Fox loves the guy!

Brown is from Pops tree.

 

[gunks]

They'll never be the Lakers or GSW but they are pretty dang close.

Recency Bias for me. It'll all even out into a three way tie eventually. And when it's some combination of Spurs vs Lakers or Warriors vs Spurs or whatever, I'll root for my third favorite team "arena structural collapse"!

 

[Kingster]

I don’t thing GMs feel the same way about future picks. They want the flexibility to use them for trades. I don’t believe they have less value than now picks

So you think that GMs believe a pick is a pick regardless of its rank in the draft? And a 1st rounder 10 years from now is worth the same as a 1st rounder today? I can't buy into that. Makes no sense to me.

 

[sactowndog]

If the leaks last week are to be believed Monte is the talent picker, Wes is the negotiator.

Interesting. So you think Wes makes the deals and not Monte?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Interesting. So you think Wes makes the deals and not Monte?

I don't have the slightest clue but that was what was alluded to on DLo's show when all this first broke.

 

[The_Jamal]

Interesting. So you think Wes makes the deals and not Monte?

That's been what DLO has been rolling with. "Monte's bag is draft and talent eval. Wes does everything else" Or Something to that extent.

 

[Kingster]

Honestly I think they will get Kerr.

That would fit. Just like the GS Gen. Manager left at the top, Kerr will not be with GS much longer.

 

[sactowndog]

So you think that GMs believe a pick is a pick regardless of its rank in the draft? And a 1st rounder 10 years from now is worth the same as a 1st rounder today? I can't buy into that. Makes no sense to me.

I think it is situational based on team. In 31 Sabonis could have retired, the entire Kings starting line-up could be under 6”6” and the Spurs could be NBA champs.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Honestly I think they will get Kerr.

From one overrated coach to another

 

[KaiJonesBall]

I'm likely in the huge minority here, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it, I've never been a huge fan of Fox. I don't think he's a true PG, I don't think he's the "superstar" he seems to think he is, I think he throws negative body language half the time, doesn't play to his full potential most of the time, think he's disingenuous in most things he says and does, and personally, I'm GLAD he's gone. He sure as hell isn't worth the SuperMax or anything close to it. I've been a fan since '85 (I'm old), and am actually optimistic about the future of the Kings, much more so than I was before the trade.

AMEN! Said it years ago and got jumped for it. The character of this team will shine brighter without him.

 

[TaxMan]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886494189254521245

Matt George does know that 24 PPG on 63% TS is really ****ing hard to do right?

Either Zach does command the attention, which helps Monk, or he doesn't... which means a 44% three point shooter is going to be getting awesome open looks.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

That would fit. Just like the GS Gen. Manager left at the top, Kerr will not be with GS much longer.

And while I associate him with Pop and Lute he could take a page out of Phil Jackson's playbook and jump from one generational talent to the next.

 

[iowamcnabb]

So you think that GMs believe a pick is a pick regardless of its rank in the draft? And a 1st rounder 10 years from now is worth the same as a 1st rounder today? I can't buy into that. Makes no sense to me.

no a top 5 pick is not worth the same as a 20/ pick but I do think future unprotected picks have great value even if they are 6 years down the road

 

[sactowndog]

That's been what DLO has been rolling with. "Monte's bag is draft and talent eval. Wes does everything else" Or Something to that extent.

Well that might explain why Monte keeps drafting guards. It’s not his problem to turn a never ending stream of guard draft picks into forwards. He can say I drafted a good player and Wes can’t convert it to a forward.

that kind of management dysfunction and intrigue would be classic Vivek.

 

[King-Da-Yah]

We got the monkey off our backs with Fox leaving. I'm not nearly as heartbroken as I was with Cousins being sent out, I don't know why, but I am just not. Maybe it's because of how we traded Cousins, but I don't think Fox was on the same talent level as Cousins (man, if only he could have kept his cool even halfway under control). I don't have the sense of dread either. Somehow, it feels like it's going to work out. I definitely have a feeling there is at least one more trade incoming. Roster is far too unbalanced now, it needs some tidying up.

I heart you

 

[Kingster]

They still are talking about John Collins on 1140. Who gives an F about John Collins? Is he a defensive force? No. Is he going to provide help for Sabonis on D? No. If Utah gives us some of their picks to take him off their hands, great. Otherwise, get lost.

 

[TaxMan]

no a top 5 pick is not worth the same as a 20/ pick but I do think future unprotected picks have great value even if they are 6 years down the road

The unprotected Min FRP is a lottery ticket. I'm sure front offices have some sort of model that provides a probability weighted value based on a lot of factors (current ranking of team, historical performance, ownership uncertainty, age of stars, etc.), but at this far in the future it feels like it could just as easily end up being a lottery pick as a pick in the 20's. That uncertainty is what gives it its current relatively high value.

 

[SacTownKid]

How did we not get at least the ATL pick???

I think it was Marks who mentioned it, but even if the Kings got that pick it would have likely been protected. No way is someone giving up even a slight chance at Flagg for Fox in this situation.

 

[SacTownKid]

Either Zach does command the attention, which helps Monk, or he doesn't... which means a 44% three point shooter is going to be getting awesome open looks.

"Gravity" looked OK when Fox has been out. Go figure. Leave LaVine 1 on 1 and the stats most seasons say he's at Fox's level or beyond. Hmmm... this is why you don't assess players while injury riddled or playing out of their mind. Like most players he's probably somewhere in the middle.

 

[The_Jamal]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886513267620937835

Deal about to finalized

 

[sactowndog]

This trade is not final yet. Rumors are the Kings were unaware of the protections on the Charlotte pick. So on brand.

is it not final because the Kings are pulling out of the deal?

 

[Hoovtrain]

This trade is not final yet. Rumors are the Kings were unaware of the protections on the Charlotte pick. So on brand.

is it not final because the Kings are pulling out of the deal?

where did you see this rumor?

 

[SacTownKid]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886469318705397785

I am so down for this

If the Kings can land Jonas this team might be set up perfectly for a play in push.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

This trade is not final yet. Rumors are the Kings were unaware of the protections on the Charlotte pick. So on brand.

is it not final because the Kings are pulling out of the deal?

Where you getting this?

fire them now if true takes two seconds to google

I think it was Marks who mentioned it, but even if the Kings got that pick it would have likely been protected. No way is someone giving up even a slight chance at Flagg for Fox in this situation.

I’d take that pick top 3 protected over the rest of the picks we got maybe not the Minnesota pick

 

[pdxKingsFan]

where did you see this rumor?

I made it up upthread? lol

 

[The_Jamal]

This trade is not final yet. Rumors are the Kings were unaware of the protections on the Charlotte pick. So on brand.

is it not final because the Kings are pulling out of the deal?

Source?

The deal hadn't been sent in because the Bulls had to clear 2 roster spots. I assume us and the Spurs gave them the night to find something, if they could. They just released Duarte and Craig, making them able to complete the trade

 

[TaxMan]

"Gravity" looked OK when Fox has been out. Go figure. Leave LaVine 1 on 1 and the stats most seasons say he's at Fox's level or beyond. Hmmm... this is why you don't assess players while injury riddled or playing out of their mind. Like most players he's probably somewhere in the middle.

It is really interesting the amount Doug had Fox playing off ball. It was a definite shift. I'm honestly not really worried about what this does with our offense. Fox has been living off his clutch player of the year rep for two years now without great results (does this mean we don't get to hear Kayte talk about it anymore ). I'm pretty excited to see how things look with Zach's much more consistent shooting.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886494189254521245

Matt George does know that 24 PPG on 63% TS is really ****ing hard to do right?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886513267620937835

Deal about to finalized

Bring him home, Monte! (I am joking)

 

[Tetsujin]

Source?

The deal hadn't been sent in because the Bulls had to clear 2 roster spots. I assume us and the Spurs gave them the night to find something, if they could. They just released Duarte and Craig, making them able to complete the trade

 

[Tetsujin]

If the Kings can land Jonas this team might be set up perfectly for a play in push.

Given how weird a bunch of the teams ahead of us are looking, we can probably make a run for a regular playoff slot.