De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

ShastaKingsFan

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Kingster said:
Remember January of last year where Fox took a vaca for the entire month? Remember nobody really knew what the heck was going on? We never did get a sensible answer. Given what we've seen this January, I can't help but wonder if Fox was having some serious trade discussions with management last January - the month before the trade deadline - and ramped down his game accordingly in order to put pressure on management. Or maybe he thought he was going to get traded and wasn't terribly motivated. I guess we'll never know, but the whole Jan 24 period was quite curious.
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Yeah, he refused to talk to the media for about 3 weeks
 
pdxKingsFan

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Tetsujin said:
Maybe his fingers are just really really cooked
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Still that would just be reason to sit him out and tell him to get the surgery and see what next year looks like.

Honestly San Antonio can pretty much do whatever - treat him like we treat second rounders - that's about what they invested into this so far.
 
Kingster

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iowamcnabb said:
unprotected picks are always valuable. Look at the situation with Dallas, they owe a 2030 swap to the spurs that they didn’t worry about and now they might need to given no Luka. The Thunder own a top 6 protected pick from the Sixers this year. They were supposed to be contending but because of injuries that could be a top ten pick.

6 first round picks and 4-8 seconds is probably top 12 in terms of best pick packages in the league.
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One of the 1st rounders is six years from now. Discounted for present value, it's like a 2nd rounder today. Then you have to consider that all picks are not equal. Some picks have the potential to be top 5 draft picks; others mid 20s or lower, which rarely give you much. If we actually owned two or three Washington Wizards (or Atlanta ) picks over the next few years, then you're talking. Otherwise I view it as a lot of picks that won't mean a whole lot.
 
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Kingster said:
One of the 1st rounders is six years from now. Discounted for present value, it's like a 2nd rounder today. Then you have to consider that all picks are not equal. Some picks have the potential to be top 5 draft picks; others mid 20s or lower, which rarely give you much. If we actually owned two or three Washington Wizards (or Atlanta ) picks over the next few years, then you're talking. Otherwise I view it as a lot of picks that won't mean a whole lot.
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I agree I am not super excited about the 2031 even if it turns out to be special. I could be dead then.

But the 2027 Spurs pick isn't too far away and I don't think San Antonio even knows what they have yet and if Wemby gets hurt, even like a little baby injury they have to be cautious and shut him down this early in his career?

I don't like it and can't believe we didn't get a genuine real deal 2025 first out of this thing but I don't think we should be mapping the parade route for the Spurs.
 
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pdxKingsFan said:
I agree I am not super excited about the 2031 even if it turns out to be special. I could be dead then.

But the 2027 Spurs pick isn't too far away and I don't think San Antonio even knows what they have yet and if Wemby gets hurt, even like a little baby injury they have to be cautious and shut him down this early in his career?

I don't like it and can't believe we didn't get a genuine real deal 2025 first out of this thing but I don't think we should be mapping the parade route for the Spurs.
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If Wemby resemble anything like Chet, they’re done. Fox is not Shai.
 
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pdxKingsFan said:
I agree I am not super excited about the 2031 even if it turns out to be special. I could be dead then.

But the 2027 Spurs pick isn't too far away and I don't think San Antonio even knows what they have yet and if Wemby gets hurt, even like a little baby injury they have to be cautious and shut him down this early in his career?

I don't like it and can't believe we didn't get a genuine real deal 2025 first out of this thing but I don't think we should be mapping the parade route for the Spurs.
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My feeling exactly. Literally. :D

And yes, can we all be honest and fairly blunt? If Wemby gets a career threatening injury over the next two years, how many of us are going to be weeping? Weeping for joy, maybe....:D
 
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Pacboy said:
If Wemby resemble anything like Chet, they’re done. Fox is not Shai.
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They are also riding him hard while Chet got a redshirt year and can enjoy time off to be ready for the post season.

No Wemby no post-season for San Antonio. I don't see that changing in the next two years. They are so far away from good. And if Pop doesn't return...
 
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sactowndog said:
Monte is a poor negotiator and has been through his career. We paid a 1st for Huerter and more to give him away. How many picks has he used to dump: Davion, Barnes, Holmes?
Not to mention picks wasted on TD, CoJo etc.
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If the leaks last week are to be believed Monte is the talent picker, Wes is the negotiator.
 
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Kingster said:
One of the 1st rounders is six years from now. Discounted for present value, it's like a 2nd rounder today. Then you have to consider that all picks are not equal. Some picks have the potential to be top 5 draft picks; others mid 20s or lower, which rarely give you much. If we actually owned two or three Washington Wizards (or Atlanta ) picks over the next few years, then you're talking. Otherwise I view it as a lot of picks that won't mean a whole lot.
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I don’t thing GMs feel the same way about future picks. They want the flexibility to use them for trades. I don’t believe they have less value than now picks
 
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pdxKingsFan said:
They are also riding him hard while Chet got a redshirt year and can enjoy time off to be ready for the post season.

No Wemby no post-season for San Antonio. I don't see that changing in the next two years. They are so far away from good. And if Pop doesn't return...
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Even if Pop comes back, I don't think he'd stick around for too much longer with his age and health issues.

Hey! Maybe they can hire Brown! Fox loves the guy!
 
AaronPDX

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I'm likely in the huge minority here, but I'm not going to sugarcoat it, I've never been a huge fan of Fox. I don't think he's a true PG, I don't think he's the "superstar" he seems to think he is, I think he throws negative body language half the time, doesn't play to his full potential most of the time, think he's disingenuous in most things he says and does, and personally, I'm GLAD he's gone. He sure as hell isn't worth the SuperMax or anything close to it. I've been a fan since '85 (I'm old), and am actually optimistic about the future of the Kings, much more so than I was before the trade.
 
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