De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks
- Thread starter Tetsujin
- Start date
I swear your comment said Vassel was better than LaVine, not younger. Whoops, I'll raise the hand on that one.
Also, I thought you didn't care about wingspan? What's their standing reach comparison?
Also, also, paying Devin Vasell 27 mil/season for another 4 years sounds pretty damn awful. LaVine makes a bunch of money, but he's only inked 2 more seasons. If LaVine keeps staying healthy (obviously a huge IF), at least I know I'm getting fringe-all-star type production. The Spurs on the other hand are 12.3 points better with Vassell off the floor this season.
Also, I thought you didn't care about wingspan? What's their standing reach comparison?
Also, also, paying Devin Vasell 27 mil/season for another 4 years sounds pretty damn awful. LaVine makes a bunch of money, but he's only inked 2 more seasons. If LaVine keeps staying healthy (obviously a huge IF), at least I know I'm getting fringe-all-star type production. The Spurs on the other hand are 12.3 points better with Vassell off the floor this season.
I'm not stoked on Lavine because he's been shopped for literal years, is super injury prone, is another all-offense piece, and that contract makes me sad.
And unless you have a trade in place with DeRozan you're rebuilding the 23/24 Bulls 2.0. Except our version has Sabonis as Point Center flanked by Lavine, DeRozan, Murray, and Monk. So Kings score like 190 a night, while giving up 210.
And those 3 first rounders (and 3 second rounders) are cool on the surface, but only the Minny one in 2031 seems to have a puncher's chance of being really worth something. The Charlotte one is just gonna be two seconds and the Spurs one will likely be well out of the lottery in 2 years (Now that they have their Wemby/Fox core courtesy Kultch).
Was liking the Monk/Ellis/Murray/DeRozan/Sabonis starting lineup before Fox submarined the season, and thought a Sochan, Cam Johnson addition (and a cache of FRPs) would be the push to get that scrappy group into the playoffs while still building a foundation for the future.
I acknowledged this is real value for a team that usually gets the likes of Kenny Thomas, Grievas Vasquez, and Buddy Hield when trading away its franchise players. So, even though I’m mildly disappointed, I'll take mild disappointment compared to the apocalyptic book of revelations level pandemonium from the recent past.
Even in saying that, I don't think Monte's done. Playing with Lavine again is not what DeRozan signed up for.
And we need a forward who isn't 35.
The real winner of this trade though is Klutch Sports. Got their client exactly where he wanted to go in under a week and without that team giving up any important assets.
Gives me Cushlash.
And unless you have a trade in place with DeRozan you're rebuilding the 23/24 Bulls 2.0. Except our version has Sabonis as Point Center flanked by Lavine, DeRozan, Murray, and Monk. So Kings score like 190 a night, while giving up 210.
And those 3 first rounders (and 3 second rounders) are cool on the surface, but only the Minny one in 2031 seems to have a puncher's chance of being really worth something. The Charlotte one is just gonna be two seconds and the Spurs one will likely be well out of the lottery in 2 years (Now that they have their Wemby/Fox core courtesy Kultch).
Was liking the Monk/Ellis/Murray/DeRozan/Sabonis starting lineup before Fox submarined the season, and thought a Sochan, Cam Johnson addition (and a cache of FRPs) would be the push to get that scrappy group into the playoffs while still building a foundation for the future.
I acknowledged this is real value for a team that usually gets the likes of Kenny Thomas, Grievas Vasquez, and Buddy Hield when trading away its franchise players. So, even though I’m mildly disappointed, I'll take mild disappointment compared to the apocalyptic book of revelations level pandemonium from the recent past.
Even in saying that, I don't think Monte's done. Playing with Lavine again is not what DeRozan signed up for.
And we need a forward who isn't 35.
The real winner of this trade though is Klutch Sports. Got their client exactly where he wanted to go in under a week and without that team giving up any important assets.
Gives me Cushlash.
Last edited:
This. The team already showed how resilient they can be and I’m glad we didn’t allow ourselves to dig another huge hole when the vibes were literally immaculate just a week and some change ago. I’m still irritated that klutch and fox + our front office got us to this point because of the timing of it all, but i won’t turn on Fox. I still love and appreciate the guy
I will add Lavine is clearly an underrated player. I mean even me from word of mouth / public perception you initially think he's some low% chucker sort of player (like a Kuzma) ... But his CAREER %'s are pretty great. 46.8/38.7/83.1 ... For reference here are other star guard's career percentages:
Curry: 47.2/42.5/91.1
Booker: 46.3/35.6/87.2
Mitchell: 45/36.9/84.2
Lillard: 43.8/37.1/89.9
Jaylen Brown: 47.8/36/72.2
Fox: 47.1/33.3/74.4
#'s aren't everything but offensively he compares favorably to the elite guards in the game & strictly considering %'s he's probably 2nd behind Curry which is shocking now that I looked it up.
Curry: 47.2/42.5/91.1
Booker: 46.3/35.6/87.2
Mitchell: 45/36.9/84.2
Lillard: 43.8/37.1/89.9
Jaylen Brown: 47.8/36/72.2
Fox: 47.1/33.3/74.4
#'s aren't everything but offensively he compares favorably to the elite guards in the game & strictly considering %'s he's probably 2nd behind Curry which is shocking now that I looked it up.
And some foolishly wonder why the NBA’s fan interest and viewership is down.
They’ve been close to losing this long time fan many times over the years, but have somehow reeled me back in each time.
However given the state of the game wrt style of play and now agents/players having more power and influence than ever before — I’m back on the ledge of the cliff anticipating jumping very soon. I’m caring less and less every season. And that in itself frustrates me. They’ve slowly and slowly taken away something I’ve loved for a long time.
They’ve been close to losing this long time fan many times over the years, but have somehow reeled me back in each time.
However given the state of the game wrt style of play and now agents/players having more power and influence than ever before — I’m back on the ledge of the cliff anticipating jumping very soon. I’m caring less and less every season. And that in itself frustrates me. They’ve slowly and slowly taken away something I’ve loved for a long time.
Some small things about the trade... Carter will now be our second pg from the bench? He is not really a point guard though? What's the point of giving McLaughlin to the deal and not getting another point guard back? Tre Jones (that ended up to the Bulls) would fit us I think, should we be looking for someone to play behind Monk (that we didn't really know he is a point guard as well) in the market?
It's the first time in many years that Kings have a raw talent in the roster, Sissoko is 20, all our rookies 2 way undrafter players the past few years had been 22+ year old. Haven't really seen him in action apart from that Carter debut in G-League but hope he can become the person that trade will be remembered for in a few years from now.
It's the first time in many years that Kings have a raw talent in the roster, Sissoko is 20, all our rookies 2 way undrafter players the past few years had been 22+ year old. Haven't really seen him in action apart from that Carter debut in G-League but hope he can become the person that trade will be remembered for in a few years from now.