We got the monkey off our backs with Fox leaving. I'm not nearly as heartbroken as I was with Cousins being sent out, I don't know why, but I am just not. Maybe it's because of how we traded Cousins, but I don't think Fox was on the same talent level as Cousins (man, if only he could have kept his cool even halfway under control). I don't have the sense of dread either. Somehow, it feels like it's going to work out. I definitely have a feeling there is at least one more trade incoming. Roster is far too unbalanced now, it needs some tidying up.
De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks
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If you have the most valuable piece in a 3 team trade, one that is highly coveted by your potential trade partner and you dont come back with a lottery pick or a single legit prospect than you suck. Plain and simple.
Spurs got everything they wanted and kept everything of value. They won massively. We lost. All this talk about “we finally got muh assets!” in a couple of faux 1 round picks and handful of throw away 2nd rounders is a massive cope.
This is how NBA works. The Lakers must have a prime HOFer on their roster at all times and all small market teams must bend the knee to big market teams.
Spurs got everything they wanted and kept everything of value. They won massively. We lost. All this talk about “we finally got muh assets!” in a couple of faux 1 round picks and handful of throw away 2nd rounders is a massive cope.
This is how NBA works. The Lakers must have a prime HOFer on their roster at all times and all small market teams must bend the knee to big market teams.
Fox and Lavine are not equal. That’s beyond silly talk. I could go into detail to easily prove this, but what’s the point? The majority should be keenly aware of this fact.
That said, even if one could be convinced that they were close to equal players/assets, the tipping point would be the age differences and current contracts.
Lavine’s contract is more expensive and a year longer (while being a lesser player), and is nearly 3 years older than De’Aaron.
That’s precisely why Lavine didn’t have the same level of interest from other suitors nor could command the same type of asset return. Although our front office clearly accepted less than another more competent FO could have held out for, so there is that.
That said, even if one could be convinced that they were close to equal players/assets, the tipping point would be the age differences and current contracts.
Lavine’s contract is more expensive and a year longer (while being a lesser player), and is nearly 3 years older than De’Aaron.
That’s precisely why Lavine didn’t have the same level of interest from other suitors nor could command the same type of asset return. Although our front office clearly accepted less than another more competent FO could have held out for, so there is that.
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I was hoping we would keep Huerter’s money for additional trades now that we have the second round picks. He’ll be an expiring next season so it’s more than tradeable even though he sucks now…but the Kings pretty much capped themselves out for the rest of the trade deadline by moving him as well.
So while we don’t *need* to trade Deebo. He’s pretty much the last moveable piece that makes enough money to bring over another consequential piece or a couple role players that brings more balance that may fit the mold of a player the Kings need now. Kings aren’t rebuilding by opting for LaVine.
But we’re fast approaching another deadline and the Kings still have zero depth, zero size, and limited athleticism and now I don’t see any path that these will be meaningfully addressed by Thursday if NOT DeMar being on the block.
I’m intrigued by what Domas and LaVine can do together but we’re only Domas point forward/center ability away from simply being what the Chicago Bulls have been for the last few years.
And LaVine’s injury history can’t be ignored here. It’s a pretty extensive one. If he can stay healthy. Then he’s a good value for value swap for Fox.
Also, it’s a bit funny the Kings could’ve been practically gifted LaVine last season and this offseason when the Bulls were begging teams to take him off their hands for filler but now we ended up spending our biggest chip AND our next largest upcoming expiring on him.
So, I just think our assets could’ve been managed for better return here.
But again, I’m happy to be moving on. I just hope we aren’t done this week. Monte has a lot of work to do because almost no weaknesses were addressed outside of second round draft pick stock and getting rid of a distraction.
Most of the time, I'd agree with you here. However, it was plainly stated we were looking for a "win now" player. I don't think we, as in the Kings, had much interest in young players. That makes sense if we plan on maximizing our time with Domas and Keegan. We got a player of comparable talent level in Lavine, two firsts and 5 second round picks (most likely). It just isn't that bad. It isn't fantastic, but it isn't horrible either.
We didn't go into this with the idea of rebuilding from the ground up. You have to keep that in perspective.
We didn't go into this with the idea of rebuilding from the ground up. You have to keep that in perspective.
Zack torched us last time we played them. We barley got the win.
Fox had broken hands, he litteraly could have sat out the season next week and nobody would have batted a eye.
These takes man are just a lil disheartening.
I honestly don't know what people expected. Spurs are not going to do us any favors. Cassle growth will be extremely dampered with the addition of Fox. I would not have traded for Fox if I was Spurs. I don't think he fits at all with Wimbley. Fox playmaking ability is below average for a pg and he isn't all of a sudden going to give it 100% because he got traded.
Age keeps getting brought up. Fox playing style is going to kill his longevity and he doesn't have the shooters touch. He will never be the shooter Levin is. He will never have the athletic ability of Zack.
Zack also has never had as good of a supporting cast as we have in sac.
Lastly, Spurs supporting cast is NOT better than sacramento. Wembly or not, I'll take our starting 5 over there's today. That's why, despite all the drama this year, we are still ahead of them in the standings.
Spurs are 2 years away min and by that time Fox will be almost 30 himself.
Fox had broken hands, he litteraly could have sat out the season next week and nobody would have batted a eye.
These takes man are just a lil disheartening.
I honestly don't know what people expected. Spurs are not going to do us any favors. Cassle growth will be extremely dampered with the addition of Fox. I would not have traded for Fox if I was Spurs. I don't think he fits at all with Wimbley. Fox playmaking ability is below average for a pg and he isn't all of a sudden going to give it 100% because he got traded.
Age keeps getting brought up. Fox playing style is going to kill his longevity and he doesn't have the shooters touch. He will never be the shooter Levin is. He will never have the athletic ability of Zack.
Zack also has never had as good of a supporting cast as we have in sac.
Lastly, Spurs supporting cast is NOT better than sacramento. Wembly or not, I'll take our starting 5 over there's today. That's why, despite all the drama this year, we are still ahead of them in the standings.
Spurs are 2 years away min and by that time Fox will be almost 30 himself.
The trade exception lasts a year, can't be combined with other salaries, can be split up. If things fall out such that we do have a $16.8M trade exception, we could use that to get one player worth $16.8 or two+ players that add up to that amount. For this season we're hard-capped at the first apron, so we probably can't spend the whole thing, but we could technically use the trade exception over the summer when that cap will be removed.
Seriously, given the knowledge that Fox had us over a barrel (wouldn't sign anywhere but SA, wanted out, would need to be traded within a year, was playing with hurt fingers and could possibly have shut it down for the season if he wasn't moved) what did anyone expect? Yeah, better picks would have been nice, but with the limited haul Dallas JUST got for Luka, I'm OK with this. Let's see how it all plays out before we go ripping this too much. Second rounders are now valuable as well for cost control purposes, and we've restocked the cupboard to be able to make more moves.