De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

[MizzouKing]

Lavine apparently waived his trade kicker which means we now have a 16.8 million dollar TPE and picks to work with.

He had let it be known not that long ago that he welcomed a move to the Kings.

 

[Light it up]

I can never remember. Can you trade a 5mm player for a 20mm player with a 16mm tpe

I don’t think the tpe can be combine with anything else.

 

[SacTownKid]

But we most certainly did one for them though. That’s the problem. When the Spurs said Castle was off the table, hang the **** up and go to the next team. Fox had more value than what we got today.

That's not how it works. Remember the Kings and Siakam?

 

[KingsFanSince85]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886233119533006918

Vassell’s deal sorta overtook Lavine’s as ”Worst contract in the league” this season and people were literally angry about us potentially getting Keldon two days ago lmao

What’s even more KINGS-like than being on the wrong side of a trade and not bringing back a single name on that list, is that they also didn’t manage to nab a worthwhile lengthy wing in the process of sending away their franchise player.

They say some things never change.

Another scoring guard. That’s seemingly all this FO collects.

 

[Tetsujin]

so basically we have to give a pick for a player. That’s it.

or picks.

So let’s say the Bucks want to get under the second apron to go get Butler. We could theoretically send them a couple of seconds to do them a “favor” and take Bobby Portis into the TPE with no money going back to the Bucks.

 

[Shaqfuey]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886241249650491618

Too bad a lot of the Kings fans are not Snell fans for leaving the Giants for the hated Dodgers.

 

[iowamcnabb]

This is not a ringing endorsement for making LaVine the centerpiece of the return for the Kings though.

If folks can look past their hate for De'Aaron Fox and relief that this nightmare scenario is now over, I think they would see that this deal is on the low end of the return we were all hoping for. It sucks that we got backed into a corner but we needed to come out of this with one significant asset -- a good young player on a rookie contract, a future unprotected lottery pick. Something to give us hope for the future. We swapped Fox for a veteran who was very recently available for salary filler and the throw-in's were two first round picks that are likely to be in the mid to late 20s, and 4 second round picks.

Now granted I'm way down on LaVine but personally I don't see him as asset. And even worse, he's dangerously close to being a liability. What's the over/under on his games played for the next 3 years? I'm guessing he averages 50 games a year and we're going to be paying him $138 million in that time frame. He and Monk are going to torpedo all chance of this ever being a top 10 defense again. This is a prelude to a rebuild and all because someone in our front office is too impatient to take a small step backward in order to have a brighter future.

I don't know what else was out there -- maybe this is the best we would do given Rich Paul had already knee-capped us by telling everyone who would listen that Fox would only re-sign with the Spurs. But even if that's true, I'm not going to celebrate this as a win for the Kings. Our team got even worse on defense, older, more fragile, more expensive, and our window for trying to compete is probably done. We'll play out the rest of the string on LaVine and DeRozan. I hope to God we just let LaVine walk at that point. Maybe by 2031 if Minnesota sucks we'll have two lottery picks plus whatever we manage to flip Sabonis for.

and contrary to popular belief, Lavine is in the same group as Cam Johnson, Lauri, BI and OG when it comes to health. That’s the reality for a big chunk of nba players. It’s also why we need real depth

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Il not sure if you’re being sarcastic but that’s actually true

This is not a ringing endorsement for making LaVine the centerpiece of the return for the Kings though.

If folks can look past their hate for De'Aaron Fox and relief that this nightmare scenario is now over, I think they would see that this deal is on the low end of the return we were all hoping for. It sucks that we got backed into a corner but we needed to come out of this with one significant asset -- a good young player on a rookie contract, a future unprotected lottery pick. Something to give us hope for the future. We swapped Fox for a veteran who was very recently available for salary filler and the throw-in's were two first round picks that are likely to be in the mid to late 20s, and 4 second round picks.

Now granted I'm way down on LaVine but personally I don't see him as asset. And even worse, he's dangerously close to being a liability. What's the over/under on his games played for the next 3 years? I'm guessing he averages 50 games a year and we're going to be paying him $138 million in that time frame. He and Monk are going to torpedo all chance of this ever being a top 10 defense again. This is a prelude to a rebuild and all because someone in our front office is too impatient to take a small step backward in order to have a brighter future.

I don't know what else was out there -- maybe this is the best we would do given Rich Paul had already knee-capped us by telling everyone who would listen that Fox would only re-sign with the Spurs. But even if that's true, I'm not going to celebrate this as a win for the Kings. Our team got even worse on defense, older, more fragile, more expensive, and our window for trying to compete is probably done. We'll play out the rest of the string on LaVine and DeRozan. I hope to God we just let LaVine walk at that point. Maybe by 2031 if Minnesota sucks we'll have two lottery picks plus whatever we manage to flip Sabonis for.

Don't like this take at all

 

[Larry89]

Bobby Portis is out for "Personal Reasons" today.

Might be on the move, rumors he is linked to Western Conference teams..

 

[NewArena]

Still digesting. Not sure if I like it and now Huerter’s money is gone so there likely won’t be any more trades to balance the roster which this trade does not do.

I guess we may see DeMar moved

I also dont see where we get our pick swap back and how we couldn’t get a real 2025 first rounder in the deal

I wouldve preferred the Vassell, Sochan, 3 first rounders I was preparing to be angry about to be honest. I like LaVine but I’m not comfortable he’ll stay healthy

We’ll see but when it’s fully digested I don’t think I’ll be happy with the return. Though I’m atleast glad we can move on from Fox

The trade exception intrigues me. We absolutely can do more now

 

[macadocious]

or picks.

So let’s say the Bucks want to get under the second apron to go get Butler. We could theoretically send them a couple of seconds to do them a “favor” and take Bobby Portis into the TPE with no money going back to the Bucks.

ya, that’s what I meant

 

[Shaqfuey]

What’s even more KINGS-like than being on the wrong side of a trade and not bringing back a single name on that list, is that they also didn’t manage to nab a worthwhile lengthy wing in the process of sending away their franchise player.

They say some things never change.

Another scoring guard. That’s seemingly all this FO collects.

Sadly, we got 2 guards back. Tall guards at least, but like you say not the length we needed.

 

[Tetsujin]

Bobby Portis is out for "Personal Reasons" today.

Might be on the move, rumors he is linked to Western Conference teams..

If I could actually will this into existence…

(I’ve wanted Bobby on the Kings for years lol)

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Is the SA 2027 pick unprotected?

I have not seen any report that it is protected, so for now I assume it is unprotected. We can't expect it to be very good, because San Antonio will probably be a contender at that point.

 

[Tetsujin]

Sadly, we got 2 guards back. Tall guards at least, but like you say not the length we needed.

Sidy isn’t a guard lol

He ain’t particularly good yet but he’s a wing/forward.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I don’t love this with no picks coming our way for a long time but I actually think I’m going to have fun Thursday night and those tickets are not cheap.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

But we most certainly did one for them though. That’s the problem. When the Spurs said Castle was off the table, hang the **** up and go to the next team. Fox had more value than what we got today.

Castle is not good!

Do you know how many open 3s this guy gets just for being next to Wimbly? Like what is this with this guy. Only thing he has going for him is he's 6,6 and athletic.

We don't need a project, we have Carter if we wanna bank on potential

 

[sactowndog]

That's VERY much not true. You can be sad about Sochan/Castle, because prospect(s) but Keldon and Vassel aren't close to LaVine. Like not even the same realm.

I'd love even one paragraph of any sort of data to back up this claim.

And before you rip me as a "OMG MONTE LOVER FAN CLUB GUY", i rated this deal a 5.5/10. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

length
lavine Wingspan 6’ 8”
Vassel Wingspan 6’ 10”

age
Lavine age: 29
Vassel Age: 24

contract
Lavine Contract: 40M
Vassel Contract: 27M

so tell me exactly which of my comments are not true. Yes Levine can score but there are actually 2 sides to the game and with Monk, Levine, Deebo, and Sabonis porous doesn’t begin to describe it.

 

[forza kings]

What the heck the Bulls get out of this trade?

 

[Light it up]

so basically we have to give a pick for a player. That’s it.

Yeah we can just give Washington a 2nd rounder and they give us Jonás.

 

[NewArena]

Klutch be Klutch'n

The more I think about it, the more I hate this trade. I'm wishing nothing but evil on Fox for screwing over this fanbase with his SA or nothing BS, and I'm going to troll the hell out of the Spurs fanbase when Wemby leaves them for the Lakers at the end of his rookie deal.

Honestly Luka in LA and the mere existence of OKC, kind of negates whatever the spurs do lol no one will fear them IMO. Wemby is amazing but they’re gonna need a lot more than what they have.

 

[Shaqfuey]

If I could actually will this into existence…

(I’ve wanted Bobby on the Kings for years lol)

I’d love to see Monk-Portis-Crowder on the floor together all yapping at the same time.

 

[Padrino]

What the heck the Bulls get out of this trade?

They're finally rebuilding.

 

[NewArena]

This is the trade equivalent of making the play in. It's not nothing but it's not really something to get excited about either.

Certainly not as is, but i don’t think they’re done. Hopefully this front office doesn’t overthink whatever the next moves are

 

[KingsFanSince85]

Too bad a lot of the Kings fans are not Snell fans for leaving the Giants for the hated Dodgers.

As a Dodgers fan, I’m one of the few. lol.

At least one of the teams I root for is competent and the envy of the league wrt how the front office and ownership makes things happen. Even their farm and developmental system is among the best.

The Dolphins and Kings, not so much.

 

[Tetsujin]

I’d love to see Monk-Portis-Crowder on the floor together all yapping at the same time.

Would help our bench production issues as well.

 

[NewArena]

This... Im ok with his trades and high draft picks but I dont have much faith in his ability to find gems in the 2nd round.

After finding Keon Ellis, i trust them tbh. That’s actually the area I’d trust them in the most

 

[pdxKingsFan]

We got the monkey off our backs with Fox leaving. I'm not nearly as heartbroken as I was with Cousins being sent out, I don't know why, but I am just not. Maybe it's because of how we traded Cousins, but I don't think Fox was on the same talent level as Cousins (man, if only he could have kept his cool even halfway under control). I don't have the sense of dread either. Somehow, it feels like it's going to work out. I definitely have a feeling there is at least one more trade incoming. Roster is far too unbalanced now, it needs some tidying up.

I’ll tell you why because Cousins wanted to be a King. I will not forgive Fox for a very long time if ever. Maybe when he announces his retirement and plays his final games I could appreciate it but he’s dead to me and I wish him and the Spurs nothing but ill.

 

[hrdboild]

Don't like this take at all

No worries. I'm just giving my honest assessment of the trade, not trolling for likes. I've been vehemently against the idea of a LaVine trade every time it was brought up. I put him in the same category as Kyle Kuzma. I would even go so far as to say that any GM who thinks LaVine is a player that they want on their team is not a GM that I can take seriously anymore. I liked Monte up to this point, but he swung and missed on this one in my opinion and that contract is bad enough that it's going to take a long time for the full implications of this mistake to play out.

 

[Light it up]

Bobby Portis is out for "Personal Reasons" today.

Might be on the move, rumors he is linked to Western Conference teams..

I forgot about Portis. He would be great.