Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade
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There is definitely truth in this... but it's also the nature of the current NBA. Less about watching the game on the court and more excitement about potential trades and playing fantasy league GM. Of course it's thrilling to think of the haul that Fox can bring, but we will likely end up disappointed when it goes down, and even more disappointed in 5 years after we tally up the so-so players we got with all of our draft capital. I'm not blameless here...
Silver has it out for us but most of our injuries are self inflicted.
Let's wait and see. I think we were pretty smart not to do anything that would hamstring this team for the rest of the decade because this day was always at least a coin flip from happening. We can probably do much better than the Cousins deal here and if we don't move the rest of the core we should be ok.
Let's wait and see. I think we were pretty smart not to do anything that would hamstring this team for the rest of the decade because this day was always at least a coin flip from happening. We can probably do much better than the Cousins deal here and if we don't move the rest of the core we should be ok.
But it's not really about money anymore in the NBA. Fox will get paid where ever he is and I don't think he cares too much about off the court earnings (although his curry shoe deal suggests maybe not...) I think more than anything, this is Fox feeling like we've hit the ceiling with this current team (even if they are competitive for a few years) and it will take a painful rebuild to get much higher.
Fortunately, the Spurs have a decent number of future firsts that are not their own: Only counting pick that are guaranteed to convey, they have ATL 2025, ATL 2027, MIN 2031, and a complicated swap that basically gives them the best of DAL/MIN/SAS in 2030. This is kind of important, because we would imagine that if they're running Wemby/Fox out there, that their own draft picks won't be worth very much.
Spurs
Fox
McLaughlin
Kings
Castle
Vassell
2025 Atlanta's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2025 Spurs own first-round pick
2026 Atlanta's first-round pick (the Spurs can swap their pick with Atlanta's)
2027 Spurs own first-round pick
2027 Atlanta's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2028 Boston's first-round pick (top-1 protected; the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Boston's)
2030 Better of Minnesota's first-round pick (top-1 protected; the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Minnesota's) or -Dallas' first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2031 Remove Sacramento's first-round pick (the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Sacramento's)
2031 Minnesota's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
So 6 FRP and pick swaps
Fox
McLaughlin
Kings
Castle
Vassell
2025 Atlanta's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2025 Spurs own first-round pick
2026 Atlanta's first-round pick (the Spurs can swap their pick with Atlanta's)
2027 Spurs own first-round pick
2027 Atlanta's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2028 Boston's first-round pick (top-1 protected; the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Boston's)
2030 Better of Minnesota's first-round pick (top-1 protected; the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Minnesota's) or -Dallas' first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
2031 Remove Sacramento's first-round pick (the Spurs reserve the right to swap their pick with Sacramento's)
2031 Minnesota's first-round pick (unprotected, guaranteed to convey)
So 6 FRP and pick swaps
For sure. I think the play is to get the two best young pieces they have (not counting Wemby, obviously), matching salary, and all the picks we can muster. Then flip a pick or two along with Huerter and Lyles (an unfortunate casualty to be rid of that POS Paul) for Cam and Sharpe.
Hopefully that MFer Paul doesn't represent anyone else above.
Hopefully that MFer Paul doesn't represent anyone else above.
I agree the timing is awful but you absolutely have to trade him now. You get what you can and build from there. I actually think there's more room for Monk to grow. And Ellis obviously. This is one way to relieve our guard glut.
I know it's bad but I actually think it will turn out ok. You have to get a lottery pick out of this in whatever package. Or at least a couple fist rounders, but some great players. You're not going to get a star back and I'd argue we wouldn't want one. Out team has a lot of talent.
I know it's bad but I actually think it will turn out ok. You have to get a lottery pick out of this in whatever package. Or at least a couple fist rounders, but some great players. You're not going to get a star back and I'd argue we wouldn't want one. Out team has a lot of talent.
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Our roster is very young. Lots of top end players make deep runs in the 30-35 age range. We have a FO that has a solid draft track record. If we load up on picks and rookie-contract players we will be fine.
Lots of people have immediate knee jerk “REBUILD!!” reaction but it’s not warranted, not yet at least. Same people were calling for it before MB got fired and saying the roster was broken, not just underperforming. They were wrong and DC is proving that.
our biggest impediment to growing and improving is a lack of draft picks. If we fix that or get rookie scale players (because CBA) we are in a good position. Domas is getting better every year, Ellis is a stud, Keegan is returning to form, Monk we have for a while, etc. Domas is closer to a 1A player than we give him credit for and the idea of blowing everything up in a quest for drafting the next LeBron is a terrible strategy
“CWebb vs Peja” was always silly.
Lots of people have immediate knee jerk “REBUILD!!” reaction but it’s not warranted, not yet at least. Same people were calling for it before MB got fired and saying the roster was broken, not just underperforming. They were wrong and DC is proving that.
our biggest impediment to growing and improving is a lack of draft picks. If we fix that or get rookie scale players (because CBA) we are in a good position. Domas is getting better every year, Ellis is a stud, Keegan is returning to form, Monk we have for a while, etc. Domas is closer to a 1A player than we give him credit for and the idea of blowing everything up in a quest for drafting the next LeBron is a terrible strategy
“CWebb vs Peja” was always silly.
Yeah Fox really ***** us by basically leaking he wants to be a Spur in '26 no matter what.
We can't really compare Fox's value to what players like Bridges brought in because of this.
Unless Monte lucks out and we get at least two delusional non-Spurs GM's thinking they can "sell Fox on staying"..... THEN it gets interesting.
Either way, I'll be rooting for Fox to fail and fall off wherever he ends up!
We can't really compare Fox's value to what players like Bridges brought in because of this.
Unless Monte lucks out and we get at least two delusional non-Spurs GM's thinking they can "sell Fox on staying"..... THEN it gets interesting.
Either way, I'll be rooting for Fox to fail and fall off wherever he ends up!
Here's the thing. The stars still end up getting the massive package in return, because you cannot replace their value. Everyone and their mom knew AD was going to the Lakers and look at that haul. Harden purposefully got fat and the Nets still dealt 4 FRP, Jarrett Allen and Caris LeVert to get it done. Mikal had one team on his books and the Knicks still paid 5 FRP.
You cannot go explain to Wemby "Hey man, just wait a year and a half and we'll go get Fox for you." That's a surefire way to pee off the guy next up in the NBA and get him already thinking about his next destination. The NBA guys don't think that way; if Fox is available, he helps us win games now. Not a year and a half from now.
You cannot go explain to Wemby "Hey man, just wait a year and a half and we'll go get Fox for you." That's a surefire way to pee off the guy next up in the NBA and get him already thinking about his next destination. The NBA guys don't think that way; if Fox is available, he helps us win games now. Not a year and a half from now.