Amick: De’Aaron Fox requests trade
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Lavine shouldn’t even be talked about
I’m looking past this year with Herro we’d need his scoring and playmaking long term, how long is Derozan gonna be a good player for I don’t want him starting past next year. We are not sure monk can keep up this play without another scorer next to him Herro helps that.
But I agree with what you said also if we could get a first from Miami we should still trying and Get Cam Johnson. Cam, Herro, JJJ, and Keegan is pretty good wing wise to go with Monk, ellis, and Carter
I’m looking past this year with Herro we’d need his scoring and playmaking long term, how long is Derozan gonna be a good player for I don’t want him starting past next year. We are not sure monk can keep up this play without another scorer next to him Herro helps that.
But I agree with what you said also if we could get a first from Miami we should still trying and Get Cam Johnson. Cam, Herro, JJJ, and Keegan is pretty good wing wise to go with Monk, ellis, and Carter
It may not be enough, but I'm in general agreement with these tweets. Kings fans love raking their own star players over the coals for being less than the best in the NBA, while believing in lesser talent on the roster to accept a role on the team they can't possibly fulfill in the absence of that star player. The Kings were never going anywhere with Peja Stojakovic as their 1a, but that didn't stop Kings fans from thinking he would be better served without Chris Webber ahead of him in the pecking order. Even before Webber's injury, there was a contingent of fans who couldn't wait to run him out of town.
I don't know if it's the inferiority complex that comes from being a fan of a small market franchise or what, but ultimately, you're going nowhere in the NBA playoffs without a 1a level talent, regardless of what "tier" of star they happen to be. Fox's production is not easily replaceable. It's just not. Nor is the pressure he puts on the defense with his speed and the skill with which he can attack the basket.
I suppose if Monte is able to pull off another Haliburton-for-Sabonis type of deal, it's possible that the Kings will come away from a potential Fox trade with a player of equal value that will keep them competitive come playoff time, but those kinds of deals are usually very rare in the NBA. There's a reason so many celebrated the Haliburton-Sabonis deal after the dust settled. It was a win for both franchises, and there are so few occasions where that happens. I have no confidence that such a deal would present itself once again. Good young players and picks are coming back in any hypothetical Fox deal, but you're not getting back a player of Fox's talent level that will help you make the playoffs this season.
It doesn't necessarily mean the Kings would be completely out of the playoffs mix, but a Fox trade before the deadline probably signals a look ahead to the future, with either a potential retooling in the off-season, or a full-scale rebuild if the team really flames out in the second half of this season.
I don't know if it's the inferiority complex that comes from being a fan of a small market franchise or what, but ultimately, you're going nowhere in the NBA playoffs without a 1a level talent, regardless of what "tier" of star they happen to be. Fox's production is not easily replaceable. It's just not. Nor is the pressure he puts on the defense with his speed and the skill with which he can attack the basket.
I suppose if Monte is able to pull off another Haliburton-for-Sabonis type of deal, it's possible that the Kings will come away from a potential Fox trade with a player of equal value that will keep them competitive come playoff time, but those kinds of deals are usually very rare in the NBA. There's a reason so many celebrated the Haliburton-Sabonis deal after the dust settled. It was a win for both franchises, and there are so few occasions where that happens. I have no confidence that such a deal would present itself once again. Good young players and picks are coming back in any hypothetical Fox deal, but you're not getting back a player of Fox's talent level that will help you make the playoffs this season.
It doesn't necessarily mean the Kings would be completely out of the playoffs mix, but a Fox trade before the deadline probably signals a look ahead to the future, with either a potential retooling in the off-season, or a full-scale rebuild if the team really flames out in the second half of this season.
https://airalamo.com/san-antonio-spurs-draft-picks-2025-2026-through-2031-full-list
Spurs have a nice raft of picks over just the next two years, plenty for us to use ourselves or trade
Spurs have a nice raft of picks over just the next two years, plenty for us to use ourselves or trade
Yeah, completely agree.
I guess where my heads at is if the Fox relationship is done, I'd rather look towards the future in a haul back rather than try to keep the same team build. Like is Herro this season for real? Because before this year, he was not very impactful. They were begging someone to take LaVine in the off-season, now he's the Fox replacement? Hate that too because it keeps Keon on the bench.
I think it's also helps (and a bit of cope) that we've seen a tiny sample of Monk-Keon back-court and still looking very very good. So the bet there is that Monk actually is an offensive star capable of running a playoff team. I doubt he'd ever reach Fox levels, but if he gave you 75% Fox and you got a whole youth movement/picks haul in return? eh, I could live with that.
Sucks it's gotten to this point, but is what it is once all the dirty laundry is out there. I don't see how the relationship is saved from here.
I guess where my heads at is if the Fox relationship is done, I'd rather look towards the future in a haul back rather than try to keep the same team build. Like is Herro this season for real? Because before this year, he was not very impactful. They were begging someone to take LaVine in the off-season, now he's the Fox replacement? Hate that too because it keeps Keon on the bench.
I think it's also helps (and a bit of cope) that we've seen a tiny sample of Monk-Keon back-court and still looking very very good. So the bet there is that Monk actually is an offensive star capable of running a playoff team. I doubt he'd ever reach Fox levels, but if he gave you 75% Fox and you got a whole youth movement/picks haul in return? eh, I could live with that.
Sucks it's gotten to this point, but is what it is once all the dirty laundry is out there. I don't see how the relationship is saved from here.
Yeah, I'm on the same page. I'm just remarking on the fact that a great many Kings fans are giddy at the prospect of trading Fox without recognizing that it could very well mean a return to the wilderness if the front office doesn't get it right. Like you said, betting on Herro or, god forbid, taking on Lavine is just so not it if you're trading De'Aaron Fox. You better be getting back young talent with considerable upside and a raft of picks to help you take swings in future drafts in the hopes that you might eventually get back a player of Fox's caliber.
Most aren’t trying to run Fox out of town, not that I’ve noticed anyway. I think the general consensus is sadness and an understanding that if his mind and focus is elsewhere, neither he nor Sacramento can or will be successful. I will admit that I believe he doesn’t fully complement the starting lineup, in particular Sabonis. However, that doesn’t make him any less valuable and I expect a handsome haul for him wherever he may end up.
If he has decided to go, then let him go, but it has to be the best deal possible for the Kings. Can’t hamstring the organization and the rest of the team because of preferred destinations. If the team can meet both criteria, then sure, send him to his preferred destination. Otherwise, get the best deal you can.
If he has decided to go, then let him go, but it has to be the best deal possible for the Kings. Can’t hamstring the organization and the rest of the team because of preferred destinations. If the team can meet both criteria, then sure, send him to his preferred destination. Otherwise, get the best deal you can.
I definitely would rather roll 10 small dice than one big one. I know your posts aren't directed at me since I never took a side in Peja/Webber or even really thought there was a side to pick. But still, the smoke signals have been getting bigger and it appears Klutch just set the house on fire. I hate it. But it's always something as a Kings fan you must be prepared to deal with.
