DEEBO, THE SPECIAL Ks, AND THE CARDIAC KINGS
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Vivek was in India. It was a quick turnaround. There was no other way. It happened as quickly as it could happen, unfortunately they were conference calling to make the call while Brown was running the practice and the decision wasn't final until he had left the facility.
It sucks but this still reminds me of a boss who chewed me out because I didn't deliver my two weeks properly. You get over it.
Malone has sour grapes he really should get over (he's also possibly on the hot seat as is coach bud who also criticized this), Kerr just needs to butt TF out of our business, and Karl is an old hag who the game has passed that Vivek contributed greatly to his retirement fund.
Also dude demanded a raise and extension and will collect ~$26million in pay he won't have to work for. I liked him and am sorry this happened but there's no reason to feel he was wronged in any way. Third time this has happened to him (won't count the second Cavs stint in which the team changed overnight with LeBron's return) and obviously he did not learn from his past mistakes as had been advertised.
It sucks but this still reminds me of a boss who chewed me out because I didn't deliver my two weeks properly. You get over it.
Malone has sour grapes he really should get over (he's also possibly on the hot seat as is coach bud who also criticized this), Kerr just needs to butt TF out of our business, and Karl is an old hag who the game has passed that Vivek contributed greatly to his retirement fund.
Also dude demanded a raise and extension and will collect ~$26million in pay he won't have to work for. I liked him and am sorry this happened but there's no reason to feel he was wronged in any way. Third time this has happened to him (won't count the second Cavs stint in which the team changed overnight with LeBron's return) and obviously he did not learn from his past mistakes as had been advertised.
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or maybe fans should just get over it? Mike is beloved around the league, why would his friends and colleagues not defend him?
You don’t decide to fire the coach in the middle of the afternoon. Make the decision in the morning and pull the plug before practice. This franchise is going to get less leeway given their history.
You don’t decide to fire the coach in the middle of the afternoon. Make the decision in the morning and pull the plug before practice. This franchise is going to get less leeway given their history.
Yeah, the pivot point really feels like that 2nd Q vs the Mavs. We got our teeth kicked in by Pj Washington and the Mavs D squad, just lost to the Lakers, just fired Brown. Would have been very easy to see the team just giving up, losing that game and then the tear down of the team starts.
They fought back though and they've played with energy and heart under Christie since. Does it last? Who knows, but it's good to see signs of the 22-23 beam team in this squad. Was probably my favorite aspect of that team was they never quit on a game and just looked like they loved playing together
They fought back though and they've played with energy and heart under Christie since. Does it last? Who knows, but it's good to see signs of the 22-23 beam team in this squad. Was probably my favorite aspect of that team was they never quit on a game and just looked like they loved playing together
I would distinguish between a good motivator and being the emotional leader. Brown was a good motivator, got buy-in, guys believing they could win.
What I see from Christie is different, it's love. They players feel that and I believe that is what they are responding to. When he says his job is to love on players, I believe it. And the results are speaking for themselves. Vibe was different under Brown even when he had them rolling year 1.
What I see from Christie is different, it's love. They players feel that and I believe that is what they are responding to. When he says his job is to love on players, I believe it. And the results are speaking for themselves. Vibe was different under Brown even when he had them rolling year 1.
The whole thing reminds me of developmental relationships in raising children. When they're young (or when a team is needing help out of perpetual suckitude) they need that parent figure telling them what to do and how to do it. As they mature (develop pro-level skills/habits) the parent needs transition to a power-sharing arrangement instead of being the decision-maker and authority figure. My theory is that Mike's voice and personality permeated the very air they breathed, and the only way they could hear their own voices (which they needed to continue growing) was to start tuning his out. You can't parent a teen like a child without creating a very frustrated teen, and (unless you are Pop) you can't coach a group of capable professionals like they are still needing you to guide them through the fog of life.
Doug is very much a power sharer, treating the players as adults and giving them their respect/accolades. He may not have been able to get them out of their early development period, but he's the guy who can get the most from them now that they've grown up a bit.
Doug is very much a power sharer, treating the players as adults and giving them their respect/accolades. He may not have been able to get them out of their early development period, but he's the guy who can get the most from them now that they've grown up a bit.
Lasagna take.
Brown really was perfect for that time frame. Really my only gripe was giving him the extension prematurely. If we had not, he still would have been coach this year, and we might guess the same would have played out, but you never know, so really you can't second guess how it played out.
Irregardless, I do think we have something special in Doug Christie. A coach made by, and built for, the Sacramento Kings.
And I fully agree that his adult-to-adult style is exactly what we need now. It is fortuitous that he had a couple years building relationships with these guys. Seems to have been a seamless transition.
Brown really was perfect for that time frame. Really my only gripe was giving him the extension prematurely. If we had not, he still would have been coach this year, and we might guess the same would have played out, but you never know, so really you can't second guess how it played out.
Irregardless, I do think we have something special in Doug Christie. A coach made by, and built for, the Sacramento Kings.
And I fully agree that his adult-to-adult style is exactly what we need now. It is fortuitous that he had a couple years building relationships with these guys. Seems to have been a seamless transition.
I don't think we'll ever get the behind the scenes scoop on why Mike Brown did/didn't play guys but it sure seems like he'd punish certain guys for the slightest slip while others were beyond reproach. And that's why he lost the team and his job.
It is like raising kids, esp. two or more kids, but having different/incompatible styles between them. Something I experienced but haven't had to do myself.
It is like raising kids, esp. two or more kids, but having different/incompatible styles between them. Something I experienced but haven't had to do myself.
There are many ways to motivate. Cattle prod, gun to head, bull whip, pain, humiliation, among other rhetorically similar examples to Brown's methodology. They temporarily are successful. But long term they lead to anxiety, disappointment, rebellion, and reduced performance.
MizzouKing's example is supported by educational research, notably Piaget, and practical examples of real life experience. Well done.
MizzouKing's example is supported by educational research, notably Piaget, and practical examples of real life experience. Well done.