[Game] 21/82: Kings vs. Spurs 01 DEC 2024, 6pm PT/9pm ET

The Kings have eleven games in December. How many will they win?


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Can’t believe I’m already at the point of both the 49ers and Kings season where on a Sunday I had the free time to watch and decided I had better things to do with the family. Checked the score and would have watched on replay if we won but I don’t need this negativity in my life right now. I hope they turn things around and I get excited about the season again.
 

hrdboild

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also gotta admire that generational length going purely to nearly decapitating two guys in a single swoop.
What else needs to be said than this? People think 3pt defense is why we lost this game? This is NBA officiating right here. One team has to play with their hand tied behind their back and we wonder why they keep losing.
 
Another close loss. I missed most of the game spending time with family and had to follow the play-by-play. There were some definite positives going forward:

1) Malik Monk had his first start for the Kings and shot 50% from three and 50% from the field with seven rebounds and six assists. The starting unit looked strong overall until Sabonis got in late foul trouble.

2) Isaac Jones had a breakout game.

3) Five Kings scored in double figures.

4) DeMar DeRozan came back and scored a team-high 28 points on 50% shooting.

5) The Kings had only 10 turnovers against 31 assists.
 

pdxKingsFan

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the reffing wasn’t great but we should have been up 20 plus at half time but we allowed shooting practice from 3. Their confidence went up and they started splashing contested 3s too
I know but I've seen enough all season plus the Wemby play to know something is rotten. I don't even care about refs in a game like Portland we played like butt and deserved to get killed but this is not right. I am going to quit watching.
 
to me the rebuild if there is one will be trading Fox for a young player or two and a couple picks. Say Tari Eason, Cam whitmore and a pick or two. Kings would still be super competitive without totally tearing things down to the studs. I’m not ready for that though, the thought makes me sick. Can’t be bad for 16 years and then tear it down to the studs after 2 seasons. Ugh
It stinks but Fox’s contract is going to force the issue if this team doesn’t start competing soon.
 

hrdboild

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Another close loss. I missed most of the game spending time with family and had to follow the play-by-play. There were some definite positives going forward:

1) Malik Monk had his first start for the Kings and shot 50% from three and 50% from the field with seven rebounds and six assists. The starting unit looked strong overall until Sabonis got in late foul trouble.

2) Isaac Jones had a breakout game.

3) Five Kings scored in double figures.

4) DeMar DeRozan came back and scored a team-high 28 points on 50% shooting.

5) The Kings had only 10 turnovers against 31 assists.
It was an absolutely awesome game played by the Kings in every way except one. Unfortunately that one negative is the only thing people want to talk about. And yes, I know, that 3pt defense from the Kings is a problem. I've never said it wasn't a problem just that I'm not going to harp on about it when the Kings are actually winning. But the Kings lost this game by 2pts so I guess the flood gates are open.
 
We have the Grizzlies, Rockets and Spurs up next. If we go 0-3 someone is getting fired or demoted.

I’m being super Debbie downer right now but this team is a 3 game winning streak from completely flipping the season but how do we get there?
 
Nah this is entirely a scheme thing/defensive communication thing.
Last year, we had Jordi calling out switches and coverages on defense. This year, Luke was supposed to pick up that role and he just hasn’t had the same juice. The good news is that you literally have one of the best defenders of this century/great communicator guy coaching on the bench right next to him but I dunno if Mike wants to upset the apple cart (Luke is De’Aaron’s guy through and through) at this point.
We got smaller this year and worse from 3 while everyone in the west got better. This team is wholly on Monte and his inability to get length on the team and balance this roster. Multiple years of drafting older smaller players in the lottery is coming home to roost.
 
It stinks but Fox’s contract is going to force the issue if this team doesn’t start competing soon.
honestly it’s probably just going to be his decision if he is traded. He won’t be getting the all nba selection if this season continues this way. I would think he would wait to the offseason to request a trade if that happens. Ugh
 
We have the Grizzlies, Rockets and Spurs up next. If we go 0-3 someone is getting fired or demoted.

I’m being super Debbie downer right now but this team is a 3 game winning streak from completely flipping the season but how do we get there?
As a coach, you change the defensive scheme like 8 games ago. Then you make a commitment to it, by sitting guys down for a bit, if they sag off and leave their man open at the 3 pt line.
 
As a coach, you change the defensive scheme like 8 games ago. Then you make a commitment to it, by sitting guys down for a bit, if they sag off and leave their man open at the 3 pt line.
And if you switch, you SWITCH! The entire point of a switch is to maintain man to man. Every year the switches turn right back into help. It literally defeats the entire purpose of switching, lol. I mean you're literally better off just going under every screen.
 
So, you want us to believe that this team is less talented than last year's team, when the only significant personnel move is replacing Harrison Barnes with DeMar DeRozan? You're saying that change results in the Kings being less talented?
We were a 10th place team last year who is playing worse and others got better. The changes we made did nothing to address our issues.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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It was an absolutely awesome game played by the Kings in every way except one. Unfortunately that one negative is the only thing people want to talk about. And yes, I know, that 3pt defense from the Kings is a problem. I've never said it wasn't a problem just that I'm not going to harp on about it when the Kings are actually winning. But the Kings lost this game by 2pts so I guess the flood gates are open.
The problem with saying, "I'm not going to harp on what the Kings are doing wrong, if they're winning" is that that take only ages well if the Kings actually win.

The Kings were outplayed for 36 out of 48 minutes; the signs were there the whole time, and going "Why are y'all tripping? We're up!" while the lead is steadily evaporating is daring the universe to laugh at you.
 
As a coach, you change the defensive scheme like 8 games ago. Then you make a commitment to it, by sitting guys down for a bit, if they sag off and leave their man open at the 3 pt line.
it seems worth trying. Some of their threes we were the 30 foot variety, 5 of them wet by the dumb 7’4 alien that you can’t really guard and some were contested. The problem is that’s the first thing on the scouting report “ kings give up the 3”. Guys shoot with confidence, a few go down and then it’s a problem all game. 3 point shooting is provably 80 percent mental. We need to change that comfort level or they will continue to make them, even the ones we play good defense on
 
it seems worth trying. Some of their threes we were the 30 foot variety, 5 of them wet by the dumb 7’4 alien that you can’t really guard and some were contested. The problem is that’s the first thing on the scouting report “ kings give up the 3”. Guys shoot with confidence, a few go down and then it’s a problem all game. 3 point shooting is provably 80 percent mental. We need to change that comfort level or they will continue to make them, even the ones we play good defense on
The freaky gumby guy didn't win this game. It was leaving other shooters open, time and again. Reduce that and you can survive big games from top individuals
 
The freaky gumby guy didn't win this game. It was leaving other shooters open, time and again. Reduce that and you can survive big games from top individuals
Well, he basically did, but it's the old adage of "Accept he'll get his, but don't get beat by his teammates"

Champagnie: 19 points on 10 shots
Keldon: 17 points on 10 shots
Vassell: 21 points on 12 shots.

12-21 on 3's with this trio.

Just horrific.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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We were a 10th place team last year who is playing worse and others got better. The changes we made did nothing to address our issues.
  1. That's not an answer to the question I asked.
  2. Fact Check: The Kings weren't a tenth-place team, they were a ninth-place team. But more to the point, we weren't talking about standings, we were talking about record. And if the Kings were three games above .500 this year, they'd still be a ninth-place team, so the standings are not an accurate reflection of whether your team is good or not, especially when a 9-9 team is above the play-in line in the other conference.
 
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