Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!
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Yeah DFS is literally the perfect with Domas at the 4. This was the first game I've seen him play since the Mavs days and dude just looks as impactful as ever. Elite shooting, backside rim protection, can switch out onto the perimeter. Love seeing him right back to his elite shooting after a rough year last year.
I think he'd probably cost Huerter though. Which... I think I'd do? I don't see why they'd have any interest in HB, with a million wings already and Davion isn't good enough to justify DFS. Huerter gives them a skill-set they don't have at the guard position.
Monk joins the starters, DFS slots at the 4 next to Keegan. Something like:
Fox || Keon
Monk || Jones? Davion? Duarte?
Keegan || Sasha
DFS || HB
Domas || Lyles
It's sting losing Huerters offensive impact, but you do replace some of his shooting with DFS and add a massive defensive upgrade and by far the best defensive player on the team. Would be pretty exciting watching Keegan ball pressure and DFS covering the back-side rotations.
I think he'd probably cost Huerter though. Which... I think I'd do? I don't see why they'd have any interest in HB, with a million wings already and Davion isn't good enough to justify DFS. Huerter gives them a skill-set they don't have at the guard position.
Monk joins the starters, DFS slots at the 4 next to Keegan. Something like:
Fox || Keon
Monk || Jones? Davion? Duarte?
Keegan || Sasha
DFS || HB
Domas || Lyles
It's sting losing Huerters offensive impact, but you do replace some of his shooting with DFS and add a massive defensive upgrade and by far the best defensive player on the team. Would be pretty exciting watching Keegan ball pressure and DFS covering the back-side rotations.
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the more I think about it the less likely a deal for DFS is imo. He is signed to an awesome contract and seems willing to play both a starting role and come off the bench. Not sure the Nets would trade that for KVon considering they already have a shooting guard putting up over 20 a game. They might do it if we attach a first but that’s a hefty price to pay for an above average role player. The Nets need extra picks to package for an all star level player to pair with Bridges. Don’t know who that is but Simmons contract, a guy like Cam Thomas and 4 first rounders would probably get them a really good player.
I was listening to game theory tonight and Sam mentioned Jae’sean Tate as a guy who could help the kings. I’m a big fan of his, he is kind of another Keon Ellis type whose impact doesn’t show up in the box score. He is 28 and signed for one more year after this at 6.5 mil. Houston has too many wings and need more playing time for Thompson, Tari and Cam.
How about Davion and a second or two for Tate?
How about Davion and a second or two for Tate?
Andrew Wiggins is an interesting buy low target.
With the Warriors imploding and Wiggins having a down year, perhaps the Warriors are open to moving him? With Thompson and Paul able to come off the books next year, the Warriors could potentially look to move Wiggins (and potentially Green) to create a lot of cap space to go find a better running mate for Curry (Harden, Holiday, Anunoby, George, Leonard, LeBron, Siakam).
If anyone could return Wiggins to form, it’s probably Brown with their history and connection. If he does return to form…
Seems like an interesting reclamation project that might not break the bank but could result in a terrific fit with our core.
With the Warriors imploding and Wiggins having a down year, perhaps the Warriors are open to moving him? With Thompson and Paul able to come off the books next year, the Warriors could potentially look to move Wiggins (and potentially Green) to create a lot of cap space to go find a better running mate for Curry (Harden, Holiday, Anunoby, George, Leonard, LeBron, Siakam).
If anyone could return Wiggins to form, it’s probably Brown with their history and connection. If he does return to form…
- We’d have a really good player locked up on a reasonable 3+1 deal
- He really improves our athleticism (I wouldn’t call Huerter, Barnes, Murray, and Sabonis freak athletes)
- He improves our length (7’0 wingspan & 8’11” standing reach)
- He gives us an elite wing/forward defender to bolster the defense (and if Murray keeps progressing in this department, we’ll have 2 elite wing defenders)
- He maintains our great spacing (his 3P% has been 38.0-39.6% the past 3 seasons while taking 5.6-6.8 3PA per36)
- He still gives us 5 starters who can score (he’s not a limited 3&D, sit in the corner offensive player)
Seems like an interesting reclamation project that might not break the bank but could result in a terrific fit with our core.
I thought about this myself and I’m not against it. However, we are division rivals and I think it’s more difficult to deal with a team that you share a division with. They would probably prefer to ship him east if they can, but if he’s available and there are no other takers…
Warriors are done. Klay is fried, Green has went full blown idiot, GPII is out, and they are completely dependent on Steph’s brilliance to even have a chance most nights. They must know they are sinking rapidly and hopefully they make some mistakes trading folks!
Warriors are done. Klay is fried, Green has went full blown idiot, GPII is out, and they are completely dependent on Steph’s brilliance to even have a chance most nights. They must know they are sinking rapidly and hopefully they make some mistakes trading folks!
Looking at their cap situation, I think they might have to hold on to Wiggins and look to clear Green, Payton, and Kuminga for cap space. That should give them enough cap space for a 30% max (or close to it) to try and lure someone like Siakam. If they do, they would have a rotation of...
PG - Curry
SG - Moody / Podziemski
SF - Wiggins / Santos
PF - Siakam
C - Looney / Jackson-Davis
PG - Curry
SG - Moody / Podziemski
SF - Wiggins / Santos
PF - Siakam
C - Looney / Jackson-Davis
- Siakam would be a clear upgrade as their #2 option and still has the defense, length, and passing to do a lot of the same things that Green does in their system today.
- Every time I have watched Moody, I've been impressed. He seems like a legit 3&D wing and he'd have terrific size/length as the starting SG.
- Podziemski has also been impressive this year and gives them a decent 6th man option as he continues to develop.
- Looney is solid as a role playing C
- Wiggins play is likely what determines their ceiling. If he can get back to scoring 18-20 PPG on good efficiency as the #3 scorer while hitting 38-40% from three and playing elite defense, this team could be dangerous (obviously assuming Curry is still playing like a top player in this league).
Just reading Hoopshype and an article on how Keldon Johnson may be the odd guy out in San Antonio. Not sure why, he’s young, puts up good numbers. He’s also from Kentucky plays SG SF, not the greatest length though.
I don’t enough about him and possible fit with the Kings, just throwing out another name and possibly an upgrade from Barnes and Huerter, both of which I’ve seen enough.
I don’t enough about him and possible fit with the Kings, just throwing out another name and possibly an upgrade from Barnes and Huerter, both of which I’ve seen enough.
I was listening to Bobby Marks and he said if Toronto moves Siakam it would be best to move him before the end of the month due to the 6 month extension rule. He didn’t make it clear but sort of implied he could be extended by his next team if traded in ‘23. Otherwise he enters free agency. CBA experts?
Extend-and-trade is limited to 105% previous salary in the first season and 5% raises. Standard veteran extension is limited to 120% previous salary in the first season and 8% raises. But a traded player is limited to the extend-and-trade limits until 6 months pass. So Siakam would have to be traded by Dec. 30 to sign a standard veteran extension on June 30 (last day).
Assuming Ainge asks for Keegan in return for Lauri (need to dig up my old Bagley for Lauri proposal that was not well received here back in the day…) then maybe Collins for Barnes and Davion? The Jazz don’t really have a long term PG solution, so they might appreciate a look at Davion. Barnes and Collins look like both could use a change of scenery, although the fact that Collins seems to continually need a change of scenery gives me some pause.
Yeh and that’s the problem if you trade Keegan. Sure we are better this year but your defense gets worse and because it would likely require a pick or two you would have no firepower to improve much. Now if Utah would take KVon and Davion, 3 first round picks and 2 swaps I’d probably do it it.
Fox Delon Wright (trade for)
Monk Ellis
Keegan Barnes
Lauri Sasha
Domas Lyles Len
That team can compete for a championship
He’s just entering his prime. He has been ascending for awhile and was really good in Cleveland. Danny traded Mitchell and got 3 first round picks, 2 swaps, the guy they just drafted in the first round, Colin sexton AND Lauri. I won’t even mention the Gobert haul. I will be surprised if he goes for less than the deal I proposed especially with teams like Okc sitting on a surplus.
He wasn’t salary filler by the time of the trades. His stock was up after that season because he rebounded after a few down years. If you look at his stats so for this year they are nearly identical to last year.
A 26 year old 7 footer who goes for 23 and 8 and shoots around 40 percent from 3 on high volume is worth a lot imo. I hope you are right that he could be had for 2 picks but I would be absolutely shocked.
A 26 year old 7 footer who goes for 23 and 8 and shoots around 40 percent from 3 on high volume is worth a lot imo. I hope you are right that he could be had for 2 picks but I would be absolutely shocked.