Kings trade rumor SZN 2023-2024 edition!

[twslam07]

The concern is that he's not going to be a 1st option in Sac. The Wiz made a wise decision in re-signing him because he is that there. Hate to be the team adding him as a last piece and regretting it.

Well as it usually does, it boils down to what Kuzma would cost in a trade. I think he’d cost considerably less in a trade than someone like Anunoby or Siakam. If the Wizards are open to dumping his contract for some minor assets (Mitchell, Duarte, 2nds, etc.), I’d potentially be interested.

Guys like Jerami Grant, Dorian Finney-Smith, Kyle Kuzma, PJ Washington, etc. may be solid targets that also won’t break the bank in terms of what it would cost to acquire them in a trade. Siakam and Anunoby seem to have a really high price tag at the moment and if you trade for one of them and they walk in the off-season, you’re essentially left with no tradeable assets and no cap space to improve the team.

It’d be a really risky move for our team.

 

[SacTownKid]

Well as it usually does, it boils down to what Kuzma would cost in a trade. I think he’d cost considerably less in a trade than someone like Anunoby or Siakam. If the Wizards are open to dumping his contract for some minor assets (Mitchell, Duarte, 2nds, etc.), I’d potentially be interested.

Guys like Jerami Grant, Dorian Finney-Smith, Kyle Kuzma, PJ Washington, etc. may be solid targets that also won’t break the bank in terms of what it would cost to acquire them in a trade. Siakam and Anunoby seem to have a really high price tag at the moment and if you trade for one of them and they walk in the off-season, you’re essentially left with no tradeable assets and no cap space to improve the team.

It’d be a really risky move for our team.

The thing with the Kings is we know who the assets in a trade would be, so do the other teams. Fox, Murray, and Domas are off limits. After that who knows.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

The thing with the Kings is we know who the assets in a trade would be, so do the other teams. Fox, Murray, and Domas are off limits. After that who knows.

Is Sabonis really untradeable? Not much of a chance that he would be, but I'd still listen to any offers

 

[SacTownKid]

Is Sabonis really untradeable? Not much of a chance that he would be, but I'd still listen to any offers

I would think so. If there were ANY rumblings about that we'd probably hear it. It might eventually happen but that would obviously depend on so many factors.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I would think so. If there were ANY rumblings about that we'd probably hear it. It might eventually happen but that would obviously depend on so many factors.

I wonder how his value would be viewed around the league? Is he more valuable in Sacramento, then he would be anywhere else?

 

[midtowner]

I wonder how his value would be viewed around the league? Is he more valuable in Sacramento, then he would be anywhere else?

He is untradeable. There are 2 centers better than him. And they are off limits. The Kings are looking for their Jarue Holiday/Aaron Gordon piece (good player; great role player; big athlete that plays with force).

 

[upinsmoke]

The thing with the Kings is we know who the assets in a trade would be, so do the other teams. Fox, Murray, and Domas are off limits. After that who knows.

Murray is NOT off limits.

 

[SacTownKid]

Murray is NOT off limits.

Nah, it sounded that way this summer. Maybe that changes but it sounded that way.

 

[upinsmoke]

Nah, it sounded that way this summer. Maybe that changes but it sounded that way.

If Monte traded Haliburton he would trade Murray too. I would do it for Bam personally.

 

[Tetsujin]

What in the **** are we going to do with two facilitating centers who play old school back-to-the-basket ball?

 

[iowamcnabb]

Indiana is the one to watch for Siakam in my mind. If he is willing to re-sign there maybe they unload Buddy and either Benn or Walker whoever they like least.

 

[upinsmoke]

What in the **** are we going to do with two facilitating centers who play old school back-to-the-basket ball?

Sabonis is a 4.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Atlanta is a team to watch. They are 9-12. They are likely to back into a play in spot but is that good for a team with that kind of payroll?

 

[miltonap]

Atlanta is a team to watch. They are 9-12. They are likely to back into a play in spot but is that good for a team with that kind of payroll?

thats really bad

 

[Sluggah]

That Coby White is putting up LaVine stats in his absence and the Bulls have gone 4-0 can’t be helping my dude’s trade value.

 

[dude12]

That Coby White is putting up LaVine stats in his absence and the Bulls have gone 4-0 can’t be helping my dude’s trade value.

Remember all that talk about Boogie and empty stats……I can’t help but believe that LaVine is that. I mean, on paper, a team with Derozan, LaVine and Vuc and seemingly good role players should be pretty good right?

 

[jiimbob]

Couldn’t pick up the Kings last night so watched the Bulls Spurs game. DeRozan, if available, I would be interested.
He’s 34 so getting up there and I hear a management favourite, still can play him at SF and get consistent production.

 

[twslam07]

If we’re trying not to surrender many assets in a trade while attempting to find an upgrade at PF (over Barnes), I’m assuming the list would be…

Dorian Finney-Smith
PJ Washington
Patrick Williams
Jerami Grant
John Collins
Kyle Kuzma

Patrick Williams would actually be a very interesting target for us. He hasn’t lived up to the hype in CHI but is still only 22 (Murray is 23) and has at least shown to be a solid defender at the very least. The Bulls organization hasn’t been the best and I’d be curious to see if he could flourish with our culture and under Mike Brown.

The good thing about Williams is that we wouldn’t have to send out Barnes (for salary matching purposes). We could send out Mitchell and Duarte to make the trade legal and give Williams a trial run the rest of the season. If he looks promising, we could resign him in the off-season (he’ll be a RFA) and have him be our “PF of the future” between Murray and Sabonis (while moving Barnes to the bench). If he crashes and burns, you at least have Barnes still signed for a couple more years to remain as a stopgap starter while we continue to search for an upgrade.

It seems like the sort of low risk, high reward type move that I could see McNair make.

 

[Sac.Kings]

If we’re trying not to surrender many assets in a trade while attempting to find an upgrade at PF (over Barnes), I’m assuming the list would be…

Dorian Finney-Smith
PJ Washington
Patrick Williams
Jerami Grant
John Collins
Kyle Kuzma

Patrick Williams would actually be a very interesting target for us. He hasn’t lived up to the hype in CHI but is still only 22 (Murray is 23) and has at least shown to be a solid defender at the very least. The Bulls organization hasn’t been the best and I’d be curious to see if he could flourish with our culture and under Mike Brown.

The good thing about Williams is that we wouldn’t have to send out Barnes (for salary matching purposes). We could send out Mitchell and Duarte to make the trade legal and give Williams a trial run the rest of the season. If he looks promising, we could resign him in the off-season (he’ll be a RFA) and have him be our “PF of the future” between Murray and Sabonis (while moving Barnes to the bench). If he crashes and burns, you at least have Barnes still signed for a couple more years to remain as a stopgap starter while we continue to search for an upgrade.

It seems like the sort of low risk, high reward type move that I could see McNair make.

It would be a smart move, but I think we are beyond the point of trialing unproven players in the starting lineup. We need a bonafide upgrade, the real deal and a player that we know can play at a high capacity. Half the problem with Barnes, at least offensively, is that we never know what we are going to get out of him. Sometimes he scores in the single digits, misses almost all of his 3s and other times he hits his shots and becomes the efficient scorer we have been accustomed to. He seems to be aging hard and it’s high time we upgrade that position.

Look at the playoffs last year, Huerter and Barnes were both underperforming significantly and we were ousted. We can’t have 40% of the starting lineup be a question mark in terms of performance. Huerter has largely been playing well so I think we can get away him being the starter, but we can’t have both of them underperforming.

I don’t think Brown would do this, but I’d entertain the idea of Sasha starting at the 3 and bringing Barnes off the bench. The other thought is, and I can’t believe I’m about to write this, but Kuzma does make sense for us and is a proven commodity. He fits the age range, is signed to an extended contract, and would be able to provide most of the things that we would need out of that position. The only question mark with him is defense, but I don’t think he’s terrible or a lost cause.

 

[twslam07]

It would be a smart move, but I think we are beyond the point of trialing unproven players in the starting lineup. We need a bonafide upgrade, the real deal and a player that we know can play at a high capacity. Half the problem with Barnes, at least offensively, is that we never know what we are going to get out of him. Sometimes he scores in the single digits, misses almost all of his 3s and other times he hits his shots and becomes the efficient scorer we have been accustomed to. He seems to be aging hard and it’s high time we upgrade that position.

Look at the playoffs last year, Huerter and Barnes were both underperforming significantly and we were ousted. We can’t have 40% of the starting lineup be a question mark in terms of performance. Huerter has largely been playing well so I think we can get away him being the starter, but we can’t have both of them underperforming.

I don’t think Brown would do this, but I’d entertain the idea of Sasha starting at the 3 and bringing Barnes off the bench. The other thought is, and I can’t believe I’m about to write this, but Kuzma does make sense for us and is a proven commodity. He fits the age range, is signed to an extended contract, and would be able to provide most of the things that we would need out of that position. The only question mark with him is defense, but I don’t think he’s terrible or a lost cause.

Regarding Patrick Williams, I wasn’t saying to start him right away. I’d probably bring him off the bench, and if he looks promising, maybe graduate him to the starting lineup. My thought was to trade Mitchell and Duarte who both have proven that they’re replaceable in the rotation (hence why I think it would be a low risk move).

 

[jiimbob]

It would be a smart move, but I think we are beyond the point of trialing unproven players in the starting lineup. We need a bonafide upgrade, the real deal and a player that we know can play at a high capacity. Half the problem with Barnes, at least offensively, is that we never know what we are going to get out of him. Sometimes he scores in the single digits, misses almost all of his 3s and other times he hits his shots and becomes the efficient scorer we have been accustomed to. He seems to be aging hard and it’s high time we upgrade that position.

Look at the playoffs last year, Huerter and Barnes were both underperforming significantly and we were ousted. We can’t have 40% of the starting lineup be a question mark in terms of performance. Huerter has largely been playing well so I think we can get away him being the starter, but we can’t have both of them underperforming.

I don’t think Brown would do this, but I’d entertain the idea of Sasha starting at the 3 and bringing Barnes off the bench. The other thought is, and I can’t believe I’m about to write this, but Kuzma does make sense for us and is a proven commodity. He fits the age range, is signed to an extended contract, and would be able to provide most of the things that we would need out of that position. The only question mark with him is defense, but I don’t think he’s terrible or a lost cause.

I have warmed up to Grant, Kuzma, and even DeRozan, though out of the time line, after watching him last night. All three consistently score, consistency is what’s killing me about a couple of our staters. Defense, may be a question but Murray is the other starting forward and this is a Brown coached team so should be right.
Sounds like most of us are pretty desperate for a trade. Guys, like Patrick Williams should come cheap and might reach their potential here, but agree we need an upgrade now.

 

[Sac.Kings]

I have warmed up to Grant, Kuzma, and even DeRozan, though out of the time line, after watching him last night. All three consistently score, consistency is what’s killing me about a couple of our staters. Defense, may be a question but Murray is the other starting forward and this is a Brown coached team so should be right.
Sounds like most of us are pretty desperate for a trade. Guys, like Patrick Williams should come cheap and might reach their potential here, but agree we need an upgrade now.

Agree with you, I don’t think this team is complete and looking at the playoffs last year and the start of this season, our issues have remained the same — consistency from a couple of our starters. We can usually weather Huerter’s issues because of Monk, but we have no such luxury with Barnes. I wouldn’t even wait until the trade deadline, too much of the season may be at stake.

 

[hrdboild]

I'm way way out on Kuzma and Grant and as much as I like DeRozan I think he ultimately would get in the way of Fox and Sabonis. There just aren't enough shots left to feed these guys which makes them a poor investment considering their contracts and minimal defensive value. Barnes remains one of our most efficient scorers but he's been relegated to the 5th option in the starting unit so if anything, moving him to the bench might actually increase the number of shots he gets per game. Keegan's role in the offense is already growing and Sasha is expected to take on more minutes and shots in the future so we don't really need another scorer to take Barnes' spot in the starting 5, just someone who can knock down an open jumper and defend at a high level -- ideally for the veteran's minimum or thereabouts.

 

[iowamcnabb]

If we are say 0-6 games over .500 at the deadline I bet Monte holds his cards until the offseason. If we are exceeding that kind of record, I could see him taking a swing. He mentioned that improvement isn’t linear and fully understands last years record and playoff appearance is not necessarily the floor.

an internal change to the lineup is for sure on the table too.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I'm way way out on Kuzma and Grant and as much as I like DeRozan I think he ultimately would get in the way of Fox and Sabonis. There just aren't enough shots left to feed these guys which makes them a poor investment considering their contracts and minimal defensive value. Barnes remains one of our most efficient scorers but he's been relegated to the 5th option in the starting unit so if anything, moving him to the bench might actually increase the number of shots he gets per game. Keegan's role in the offense is already growing and Sasha is expected to take on more minutes and shots in the future so we don't really need another scorer to take Barnes' spot in the starting 5, just someone who can knock down an open jumper and defend at a high level -- ideally for the veteran's minimum or thereabouts.

Vezenkov doesn't look like a "scorer" in the NBA. He's a spot shooter. Adding another scorer who can defend better than him, would help a lot

 

[hrdboild]

Vezenkov doesn't look like a "scorer" in the NBA. He's a spot shooter. Adding another scorer who can defend better than him, would help a lot

In the 5 games that the Kings have lost this season with Fox in the lineup they've given up an average of 125.2 points to the winning team. Scoring is not the issue. And all I'm talking about when I call Vezenkov a scorer is around 12-14 points per game. That's 5 made baskets and a couple free throws which is not unreasonable for a "spot shooter".

Huerter and Murray bouncing back to 40% three point shooting and a small uptick in volume for Vezenkov already puts us near Indiana's record-setting pace in scoring output. There is no room left in this lineup for someone else to get another 10+ shots which is the bare minimum you would have to give to somebody like Kyle Kuzma, Jerami Grant, or DeMar DeRozan to justify their existence. These guys are averaging 16-19 shots per game on their current teams. All that would accomplish is taking the ball out of the hands of our two All-Stars.

 

[ick300]

In the 5 games that the Kings have lost this season with Fox in the lineup they've given up an average of 125.2 points to the winning team. Scoring is not the issue. And all I'm talking about when I call Vezenkov a scorer is around 12-14 points per game. That's 5 made baskets and a couple free throws which is not unreasonable for a "spot shooter".

Huerter and Murray bouncing back to 40% three point shooting and a small uptick in volume for Vezenkov already puts us near Indiana's record-setting pace in scoring output. There is no room left in this lineup for someone else to get another 10+ shots which is the bare minimum you would have to give to somebody like Kyle Kuzma, Jerami Grant, or DeMar DeRozan to justify their existence. These guys are averaging 16-19 shots per game on their current teams. All that would accomplish is taking the ball out of the hands of our two All-Stars.

if you give Vezenkov the number of shots Kuzma has he will shot 8/10 more points then Kyle …
He was not only MVP of euro leagues , but also best scorer in it ….
Giving this roster more time is the best solution for “transfer” at this moment … every new “star” player will not only need time to connect with teammates but will also take some of the shots which belongs to Mink and Fox , not necessarily making them points
Not to speak if you take someone as Levine for example he may try to take the 4th quarter most important shots , which I think I this team had to be reserved for foxy …

 

[upinsmoke]

I know hes out right now but what about Steven Adams? He could be back for the playoffs and be a difference maker.

 

[twslam07]

if you give Vezenkov the number of shots Kuzma has he will shot 8/10 more points then Kyle …
He was not only MVP of euro leagues , but also best scorer in it ….
Giving this roster more time is the best solution for “transfer” at this moment … every new “star” player will not only need time to connect with teammates but will also take some of the shots which belongs to Mink and Fox , not necessarily making them points
Not to speak if you take someone as Levine for example he may try to take the 4th quarter most important shots , which I think I this team had to be reserved for foxy …

I’m sorry…you think Vezenkov could average 30.9-32.9 PPG with a TS% of .755-.804???

I didn’t realize we have the best player to ever play the game of basketball coming off our bench. Lucky us!

 

[Pacboy]

I know hes out right now but what about Steven Adams? He could be back for the playoffs and be a difference maker.

He’s out for the season. Not expected to be back until 24/25 season