Potential Free agent/trade/sign tracker
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I'd be thrilled with this. Vastly improves the defense and rebounding in the starting LU and gets Keegan to his more natural slot at the 4 rather than chasing around guards/wings on the perimeter all game.
I think you'd have to above the MLE though. Split HB's money between him and Vezenkov? Probably needs to be like a 4/50 to 4/60 deal.
Fox || Davion
Huerter || Monk
Brown || Vezenkov
Keegan || Lyles
Domas || ??? (We all want Lyles here, but I won't actually believe Brown will commit to it until we see it).
With #24, #38, Queta, Ellis, Edwards to round out the bench. Seems good to me.
I think you'd have to above the MLE though. Split HB's money between him and Vezenkov? Probably needs to be like a 4/50 to 4/60 deal.
Fox || Davion
Huerter || Monk
Brown || Vezenkov
Keegan || Lyles
Domas || ??? (We all want Lyles here, but I won't actually believe Brown will commit to it until we see it).
With #24, #38, Queta, Ellis, Edwards to round out the bench. Seems good to me.
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Yeah and Bruce Brown isn't a guy who's gotten a major contract yet in the NBA. Going to be 27 next season, coming off being a valuable role player for a title team. His value probably won't be higher.
$5mil is a ton for a dude who's made 15 mil in his career. In addition to locking in the long-term contract now, while his value is at his peak and he's healthy.
$5mil is a ton for a dude who's made 15 mil in his career. In addition to locking in the long-term contract now, while his value is at his peak and he's healthy.
And Brown would have to sign a three-year deal starting at that $7.6M to even be eligible for an extension. He can sign a three-year MLE starting at $12.2M and be in the exact same financial situation, be eligible for a *larger* extension based on 120% of his salary (if that's the route he would end up going), and have another $15M in pre-tax earnings to show for it. Brown gives up A LOT to sign with Denver.
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I could see the Kings doing it to replace Barnes with a similar PF/SF short term and opening up more space next summer for Sabonis and Monk by dumping Holmes (although you would then have to figure out what to do about the PF/SF spot again. But you’d have a larger sample of Keegan and a year of Sasha to evaluate).
This article assumes Sixers would need cap relief after re-signing Harden but hard to imagine they’d want a straight dump of Harris.
I could see the Kings doing it to replace Barnes with a similar PF/SF short term and opening up more space next summer for Sabonis and Monk by dumping Holmes (although you would then have to figure out what to do about the PF/SF spot again. But you’d have a larger sample of Keegan and a year of Sasha to evaluate).
This article assumes Sixers would need cap relief after re-signing Harden but hard to imagine they’d want a straight dump of Harris.
To be honest, Harris is right in that Barnes/Kuz range as far as the numbers go and since he's expiring it's a perfect give it a shot type of move that fills a need for individual scoring ability with very little long term damage. I'd totally like to see Monte land Harris using that space and some dead salary.
Anyone think there’s any smoke to PG being potentially shopped by the Clippers? They would want a mountain of assets back, but it is PG and he would solve many of our issues. Even if he is being secretly shopped, I think we are an unlikely destination. Would almost certainly have to give up Keegan and we are in the same division. He is a great player though!
I think there is basically no way that the Kings have any space or at least significant cap space next offseason. Domas has a 31 million dollar cap hold but he'll probably sign a max immediately anyway. Monk is like 12. I'm not sure about the exact numbers but the only way to have any significant cap space near max level would require dumping Huerter, not re-signing Barnes to anything longer than a 1 year deal, and probably not expecting to re-sign Monk. If they can find a way to move Holmes it would help but in the end, shooting for space to sign a max type player next offseason likely isn't a realistic goal nor worth shooting for since it has too many variables at this point. The window for Monte to use cap space to get something via trade is this offseason.
Next offseason is a bit less of a worry, because Harris is expiring. If we're looking at him as a one-year thing, no big deal.
But to absorb the Harris contract, we've got to have $39.2M of cap space. With the new numbers out today, that means we'd have to be at $96.8M tops. Assume that Holmes is a part of the deal. My numbers put us at $97.7M if we renounce all cap holds but include #24 and keep Edwards and use roster charges to fill to 12 players. If you assume that Philly is going to want #24 for Harris (seems safe) that would sneak us under that $96.8M and we could do Holmes + 24 for Harris straight up, at least if Philly is OK with that. Obviously they lose on talent, but they save about $25M this year, and since Harden is expected to opt out they would have a metric boatload of cap space.
That kind of put us up against the wall a bit. We would be:
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk
Murray/Edwards
Harris (Vezenkov)
Sabonis
Presumably we would then try to use the room MLE to sign Vezenkov (that's up to $7.6M three years, that should do it) and be forced to patch the rest together with min contracts. Lyles would be a goner. We'd be basically 8 deep with Queta or a min contract guy getting the backup C minutes. Is that an upgrade? Since we figure we can get Sasha either way, it's effectively Barnes (or FA replacement) + Lyles + #24 for Harris. Hurts our depth a decent amount.
But to absorb the Harris contract, we've got to have $39.2M of cap space. With the new numbers out today, that means we'd have to be at $96.8M tops. Assume that Holmes is a part of the deal. My numbers put us at $97.7M if we renounce all cap holds but include #24 and keep Edwards and use roster charges to fill to 12 players. If you assume that Philly is going to want #24 for Harris (seems safe) that would sneak us under that $96.8M and we could do Holmes + 24 for Harris straight up, at least if Philly is OK with that. Obviously they lose on talent, but they save about $25M this year, and since Harden is expected to opt out they would have a metric boatload of cap space.
That kind of put us up against the wall a bit. We would be:
Fox/Mitchell
Huerter/Monk
Murray/Edwards
Harris (Vezenkov)
Sabonis
Presumably we would then try to use the room MLE to sign Vezenkov (that's up to $7.6M three years, that should do it) and be forced to patch the rest together with min contracts. Lyles would be a goner. We'd be basically 8 deep with Queta or a min contract guy getting the backup C minutes. Is that an upgrade? Since we figure we can get Sasha either way, it's effectively Barnes (or FA replacement) + Lyles + #24 for Harris. Hurts our depth a decent amount.
