[Game] Kings vs. Trail Blazers 10/19/2022 7pm Pacific 10pm Eastern

[Rain man]

Also; 110 with our new and improved defense. That’s really good, right?

a lot of that is pace. We held them to 44.3% FG, which over the season would have been good enough for 3rd last year, behind only the Celtics and Warriors.

 

[DynaPamm]

Free throws
Turn overs
Free throws
Turn overs
And the refs were a joke

 

[The_Jamal]

Jeebus some of you guys are so dramatic.

It's the same 3 people who come in to whine and complain and say "I TOLD YOU SO HAHA, I"M SO SMART" and then when the Kings play well, they jump back on saying they've been a fan the whole time. Honestly just sounds like a miserable fan experience, but hey.

 

[iowamcnabb]

I can't imagine Domas will have too many more 4 rebound games. Blazers did a pretty decent job clogging the paint tonight

 

[SacTownKid]

All the negative people come out of the wood work when the Kings lose. Don’t have anything to say when they were doing good.

despite the loss, I thought we looked good. Our defense had its ups and downs but overall is much better than last year.

a lot to be happy about.

The question now is all about identity. Are they going to be this "defensive" team and base what they do rotation wise around that? Be a scoring team? Or both? Tonight Brown largely focused on firepower more than a few times and went smaller than even Gentry ever would have. This is actually one of those situations where a long preseason like back in the day really would have helped.

 

[KainLear]

People are so dramatic and pointing fingers... haha

It's not any single player's fault. They obviously just weren't focused enough and couldn't keep a consistent effort throughout the game.

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Refs aside, this is very likely as bad as Sabonis will play all season. Not that he wasn't hitting shots, he was incredibly indecisive in the post, leading to a lot of bad decisions. Especially with no Keegan, Kings aren't going to win many games when he's that bad. Honestly pretty impressive we had this game won until the refs just handed it to the Blazers at the end of the game.

Monk, Davion, Lyles combined 5-23 shooting too. Just not going to get it done, although all 3 did have really great moments too.

On to the next. Keegan back, normal Sabonis, we'll get things cooking. There's A LOT to like, just need to clean up the slop.

You could say fox ain't going 5 for 6 for 3s either. When your star player cookin like that regardless of tos you should win that game. And red velvet was hot!

 

[Tetsujin]

The question now is all about identity. Are they going to be this "defensive" team and base what they do rotation wise around that? Be a scoring team? Or both? Tonight Brown largely focused on firepower more than a few times and went smaller than even Gentry ever would have. This is actually one of those situations where a long preseason like back in the day really would have helped.

And to be fair, that small ball lineup in the second quarter had our best defensive stretch of the game.

 

[Entity]

He was trying to find some kind of offense I’m sure as aside from fox and hurt we were not doing so well. T Davis helped. Was disappointed in sabonis, Mitchell, monk, Barnes on offense

 

[Tetsujin]

You could say fox ain't going 5 for 6 for 3s either. When your star player cookin like that regardless of tos you should win that game. And red velvet was hot!

He might not go 5/6 from three every night but the dude was averaging 28 points a night post trade so it's not like a 33 point game from him is some sort of outlier either.

EDIT: He was 5/9 for the night.

 

[SacTownKid]

I guess the Nuggets suck for losing by 20 to Utah. Memphis sucks because they barely beat New York. This is one game damn game. We didn’t look terrible, our defense looked decent, far better than last year. Our offense will need work but that will come in time.

True, but those teams don't have nearly the same pressures going on.

 

[dude12]

Keegan Murray is rather important to the team in case anyone forgot

 

[Entity]

You could say fox ain't going 5 for 6 for 3s either. When your star player cookin like that regardless of tos you should win that game. And red velvet was hot!

My thoughts exactly. We were missing 3rd and 4th help. We got 6th from davis

 

[Rob-The-Great]

I'm sorry I'm blaming this one on the refs. Yes we could have played better but I think in any normal circumstance we win by 10 with some fair calls. I'm not counting this one. Sorry 0 and 0

 

[PorchSurfin]

I’ve been ready to move on from Barnes for seasons at this point. He’d be a good 5th man on an already established good team but he doesn’t do nearly enough as a player to move the needle on a bad team.

I'd bring him off the bench with the second unit and start Keegan in his place.

 

[KainLear]

I mean, at least give them a month worth of basketball before getting dramatic haha...

They say it takes from 18 days to 254 days for people to form a new habit.

 

[Kingster]

Leaving aside the insanity of the refs in this game, the turnovers hurt a lot. Both Fox and Sabonis had TOs they just shouldn't have. Also, I didn't see enough impact at the center position. Sabonis was nullified and Holmes was a non-entity out there. As others have said, I would have preferred Len in this game as a sub. He would have at least provided some physicallity and his length might have offset some of what Grant did to the Kings at the basket. Mitchell was terrible on offense. He's got to get more comfortable at the offensive end.

On the positive side, Fox scored a lot and he looked very good on D when he put his mind to it. Heurter was excellent. What more could you ask for from him? TD had his moments and his performance in this game gives me some hope of some big performances in the games to come. I'm looking forward to Murray in the games to come. If he can approximate the coolness we saw in the preseason, the combo of Heurter and him could be a lot of fun to watch.

P.S. I don't know exactly what to make of the absence of Barnes in the game near the end. Maybe others have some opinions on that.

 

[kingdivac]

You could say fox ain't going 5 for 6 for 3s either. When your star player cookin like that regardless of tos you should win that game. And red velvet was hot!

Oh wow, write that again.....

 

[SLAB]

I mean, at least give them a month worth of basketball before getting dramatic haha...

They say it takes from 18 days to 254 days for people to form a new habit.

Meanwhile we fans been conditioned by 16 years of garbage, so forgive the clouds forever hanging.

 

[SacTownKid]

And to be fair, that small ball lineup in the second quarter had our best defensive stretch of the game.

Which one? The one with Fox and Huerter at PF did work. The Davion/Monk/TD one was iffy. Twice.

 

[DynaPamm]

Refs doing everything they can

To screw us over

 

[MizzouKing]

The Kings probably win that game when the Blazers went small if Domas had any semblance of a normal game tonight. Dude only had three turnovers but that’s because fumbled passes count as turnovers for the guy who passed the ball to him.

I’m trying to remember the last time a key player played all summer in Europe and it ended up benefiting the Kings at the start of the season. Would’ve been nice to have him here this summer with the rest of the guys.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Sir you know what I mean. They dang sure ain't a playoff caliber team. I guess any team with dame can't be tanking. But they close

they are a mediocre to bad team with a lousy coach but we were also missing a key weapon at a spot where they are vulnerable and Sabonis played absolutely like dog poo.

and well apparently putting back a bucket is a technical in this league.

 

[PorchSurfin]

I'm sorry I'm blaming this one on the refs. Yes we could have played better but I think in any normal circumstance we win by 10 with some fair calls. I'm not counting this one. Sorry 0 and 0

It wasn't even just bad foul calls. Even some out of bounds calls were very bad.

You would assume those out of bounds 60/40 calls would go to the home team but it went the other way, 40/60 split flipped for the away team. And some were very obvious even to people in the upper deck.

 

[Tetsujin]

Which one? The one with Fox and Huerter at PF did work. The Davion/Monk/TD one was iffy. Twice.

TD was only at SF because Keegan was out so I'll be curious how that second unit looks when our 6'8/9" wing forward is playing.

 

[The_Jamal]

they are a mediocre to bad team with a lousy coach but we were also missing a key weapon at a spot where they are vulnerable and Sabonis played absolutely like dog poo.

and well apparently putting back a bucket is a technical in this league.

Think of all the night terrors Dame is going to have, thinking about how T.Davis yelled after his put-back dunk. No room for that kind of vulgarity in the NBA

 

[KainLear]

Meanwhile we fans been conditioned by 16 years of garbage, so forgive the clouds forever hanging.

I understand.

Just like I said before the season started, most of our players probably barely could find their way home if you leave them alone in Sac, if we could curb that so we don't burden the fresh blood more than they needed would be nice.

 

[PorchSurfin]

I’m trying to remember the last time a key player played all summer in Europe and it ended up benefiting the Kings at the start of the season. Would’ve been nice to have him herr this summer with the rest of the guys.

That is not fair at all. He was staying in shape and also playing for his country.

They at least have civic pride. Don't bring this up.

 

[iowamcnabb]

It will be really interesting to see where Davion fits in on offense as the season goes along

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Leaving aside the insanity of the refs in this game, the turnovers hurt a lot. Both Fox and Sabonis had TOs they just shouldn't have. Also, I didn't see enough impact at the center position. Sabonis was nullified and Holmes was a non-entity out there. As others have said, I would have preferred Len in this game as a sub. He would have at least provided some physicallity and his length might have offset some of what Grant did to the Kings at the basket. Mitchell was terrible on offense. He's got to get more comfortable at the offensive end.

On the positive side, Fox scored a lot and he looked very good on D when he put his mind to it. Heurter was excellent. What more could you ask for from him? TD had his moments and his performance in this game gives me some hope of some big performances in the games to come. I'm looking forward to Murray in the games to come. If he can approximate the coolness we saw in the preseason, the combo of Heurter and him could be a lot of fun to watch.

P.S. I don't know exactly what to make of the absence of Barnes in the game near the end. Maybe others have some opinions on that.

The turnovers were a problem in pre-season as well. I think we are only seeing a fraction of Brown's offense as much of the effort so far was to get this team to be mediocre instead of history-of-the-league bad on defense.