2022 Everything Free Agency/Trades Thread
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This is the one that seems most likely, especially without our ability to include any future FRP in a trade. I'm sure people will not be thrilled with Tobias contract, but buys another year on the contract length. For a team like the Kings, there is a benefit to having big expiring contracts to trade. So, you flip Barnes for Harris/Thybulle before the final year of Barnes contract. Then next year, you flip Harris' contract for something else.
Yeah, that’s the other one. The thing is, I’m not sure Harris is that much of an upgrade, either, especially not on the defensive end. Davis to Thybulle would be, of course, but I liked this concept a lot more earlier in free agency when we could have brought back Jones to fill the backup center spot (unless you have faith in Quetta being ready) and there were more interesting names still out there for the other 2/3 spot. I’d at least try to get a pick from Philly given the massive cost savings they’d get from the deal.
This is essentially just kicking the can down the road a year. Instead of losing Barnes for nothing at the end of next season, you get Harris (who is a slight upgrade) for two seasons. And his contract ends right when Sabonis has to be re-signed. Plus you get to decide if Thybulle is a building block to be re-signed or not. I think Davis is gone after this year if Huerter and Monk stay healthy.
The ideal scenario is to draft another wing (either a pure SF or 2/3) in next year's draft so Harris is just a bridge who can either be dealt at the deadline season after next or allowed to walk in free agency to give cap flexibility.
The ideal scenario is to draft another wing (either a pure SF or 2/3) in next year's draft so Harris is just a bridge who can either be dealt at the deadline season after next or allowed to walk in free agency to give cap flexibility.
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This is how I view it too. Harris is at worst a lateral move from Barnes (probably a slight upgrade, but less positional versatility?) and you potentially get a long-term wing defender in Thybulle on top of it. And instead of being forced to ink Barnes to another long-term deal, the Kings get their cap sheet all in line with Sabonis. If it works, great! If it blows up, we aren't tied to an old Barnes long-term contract.
Gotcha, I’d be all for it. I agree with you that Harris is slightly better than Barnes at this stage of their careers. Barnes’ defense declined a bit last year and should continue doing so the older he gets. Thybulle is the real prize for me in that transaction if for nothing else his defensive presence and ability which is greatly needed, I don’t care that his shot never developed. Next years draft, assuming the kings are in the lottery range again is really our best hope of finding a permanent 3.
The other issue is you're trading out Barnes who already knows how to play off Sabonis for a better iso scorer. Barnes going back to playing with a passing big was like a duck to water. Barnes is 30, he's not some old man yet haha. PJ Tucker is 37 and still providing something. Barnes if he stays healthy will do the same. 30-34 is still a players prime.
Yeah just depends on the tag I suppose. Barnes has aged his game nicely where he doesn't really rely on his athleticism at all and kind of has that "old-head" game where he's a shooter and relies on his bball IQ/strength to get the job done. He's not high flying much anymore like his youth and he's had a couple of his best seasons the last few years in a Kings uni.
Barnes at $12-$14mil? Let's run it. Barnes at $18-20? eh it's a pass.
Barnes at $12-$14mil? Let's run it. Barnes at $18-20? eh it's a pass.
Harden just re-signed with the 76ers on a two year deal that cuts his next year's salary from $47M (if he'd opted in) to $32M.
I don't know if that makes the Sixers more or less likely to trade Harris. I'd think less likely, but if it opens up $8M more in salary that may give them something to work with.
I don't know if that makes the Sixers more or less likely to trade Harris. I'd think less likely, but if it opens up $8M more in salary that may give them something to work with.
