NBA Draft Lottery
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A developed 23 year old rookie. Him while in a position to produce was never a question, the question was the Kings ability to put him there and guess what, it was a problem until they moved Haliburton. To which Davion literally said something about how they knew it was going to come at some point. haha.
crap, I agree with kb02 on something. I have more hope for Ivey spacing to eventually become a weapon and his frame/athleticism does give him some potential to eventually learn defense. But I'd be surprised if he's a reliable spacer right away and it's basically a guarantee he's going to struggle on D for a year or 2 at least.
Ivey is a projection "potential" guy imo. You see the physical tools, the elite shot creation at the rim and hope the other stuff comes along down the line.
Ivey is a projection "potential" guy imo. You see the physical tools, the elite shot creation at the rim and hope the other stuff comes along down the line.
What's interesting here is we get my most coveted player at 4, but the "reach at 4" is being mocked at 3. No idea who these dudes are, but if Murray moves up in the mocks at least we can make the pick without LOLKANGZ if everyone decides its a reach.
Even if now that the draft order is set, we might see Murray mocked in the top 4 based on needs and guys wanting to be "right".
I can see any of the consensus top 4 players going #1 this year and the two guys I like the most aren't even in that consensus top 4 so this is not the year to be worrying about perception. Just take the player you like the best and trust your instincts. Or for that matter, that should be the policy every year. Drafts are only ever judged in retrospect anyway.
Kings fans would do well to disabuse themselves of the notion that the 4th pick is somehow a gateway to "star upside." The team jumped to 4! That's great! It really is! They have more options from which to choose. But the history of the 4th pick is as scattered as you'd imagine, with maybe a player or two per decade on average who delivered on true star potential. The Kings could do so much worse than drafting a "safe pick" like Keegan Murray, who I honestly don't have a hard time also describing as BPA at the 4 spot.
Excited for more things to come out about Sharpe. The archetype (6'6, 7'0 wingspan, great athleticism, looks like he filled out his body from some recent workouts videos, going to just turn 19 on May 30) with shot creation and a great jumper? Tantalizing. I just don't know where or how you translate those skills without any film vs higher level comp. It probably translates well, but we have a whole lot of film on the Chet/Jabari/Paolo/Keegan/Ivey being really dang good in college.
Should be fun.
Should be fun.
I see some parallels between Wagner and Murray. Both Sophmores who greatly improved their second year, late growth spurt and of similar size, both played in the big ten, had poor (for them) games to end their college careers, viewed as having limited upside and a relatively safe pick. Neither known as shot creators but both considered high IQ.
obviously they are totally different players and skill sets but interesting nonetheless
obviously they are totally different players and skill sets but interesting nonetheless
Totally forgot the lottery was today. Great news! Of course they jumped up to the one BPA position that they don't need but that's okay. If Smith or Banchero drop, you take them.
Ideally I'd like to trade back if Ivey is BPA but I don't like our trade down candidates in the top 10. Seems like they either already have a good SG/PG or don't have much to give us back.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.
Ideally I'd like to trade back if Ivey is BPA but I don't like our trade down candidates in the top 10. Seems like they either already have a good SG/PG or don't have much to give us back.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.
I like the results of the lottery. Sure, I would prefer to pick first, but which team would not? 2nd or 3rd would have been nice as well. At least we're not picking 7th or lower.
Before I go on, I need to get this out of the way....I am VERY high on Banchero. I think his game is going to translate over to the NBA very well.
With that being said, I might suffer from a heart attack if he is wearing a Kings hat on June 23rd. Because I do not see ANY scenario playing out that sees him drop out of the top 3. He's way too good of a talent to pass up.
Ideally, I'd love to see Chet Holmgren come to Sacramento, but even he won't drop out of the top 3 in my honest opinion. So that leaves us with Jaden Ivey, Keegan Murray, and Bennedict Mathurin. I doubt we go with Ivey because we seem to be set at that position. And I'd much rather us stay away from Mathurin - I just don't see him being an effective player in the big leagues, and his game also didn't impress me a whole lot the few times I did watch him play.
Which leaves us with just one.
Keegan Murray.
I'll be very happy if he finds himself wearing a Kings hat on June 23rd.
My top 3 (for the Kings) at this very moment are as follows:
1. Banchero
2. Holmgren
3. Murray
If we end up with either of the above, I'd consider our draft a success. If not, I'll be looking very hard at the prospects for 2023.
Before I go on, I need to get this out of the way....I am VERY high on Banchero. I think his game is going to translate over to the NBA very well.
With that being said, I might suffer from a heart attack if he is wearing a Kings hat on June 23rd. Because I do not see ANY scenario playing out that sees him drop out of the top 3. He's way too good of a talent to pass up.
Ideally, I'd love to see Chet Holmgren come to Sacramento, but even he won't drop out of the top 3 in my honest opinion. So that leaves us with Jaden Ivey, Keegan Murray, and Bennedict Mathurin. I doubt we go with Ivey because we seem to be set at that position. And I'd much rather us stay away from Mathurin - I just don't see him being an effective player in the big leagues, and his game also didn't impress me a whole lot the few times I did watch him play.
Which leaves us with just one.
Keegan Murray.
I'll be very happy if he finds himself wearing a Kings hat on June 23rd.
My top 3 (for the Kings) at this very moment are as follows:
1. Banchero
2. Holmgren
3. Murray
If we end up with either of the above, I'd consider our draft a success. If not, I'll be looking very hard at the prospects for 2023.
Could not agree more, you absolutely nailed it! There is a lack of ego to the way Keegan Murray plays that I think gets in the way of peoples appreciation of him. Almost like people need to see a player impressed with himself to be assured that they should be confident in him. Keep sleeping on the humility and he’ll eat your lunch on both ends of the court. He reminds me of Jerry West and Mikal Bridges in a way. He might look too conservative/vanilla in his movements right now for all of those that think he doesn’t have enough upside but when he gets out of Iowa and starts playing with more creative guys everyday he’ll loosen up and the flavor will pop, as well as his underrated athleticism. Best player in the draft IMHO and if we walk away with Murray and Jake Laravia I would be overjoyed.
Hence why they took Kirk Hinrich over Dwyane Wade. Wait a minute.... haha. This is also kind of unfair though, Miami can usually have decent odds of guaranteeing home runs with their cap space in FA. If Sacramento has a chance to hit a homer, they have to consider it since they rarely ever get up to bat.
Speaking of Wade, there might be some of him in that Ivey guy.
Speaking of Wade, there might be some of him in that Ivey guy.
