[Game] Kings @ Grizzlies, 11/28/21 3pm Pacific 6pm Eastern
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I've been a Metu advocate, and thought him replace Moe in the starting lineup could help us, since Moe wasn't giving us anything offensively. Boy, is he making me eat crow.
While I appreciate his 11 rebounds in 23 minutes on a day we got outrebounded 68-49 (yikes!), he can't be taking 11 shots in that time, particularly when he's shooting 2-11. And it's not just this game. He comes in with a gunner's mentality. I wanted Moe to be a bit more aggressive (with improved efficiency hopefully), but Metu needs to really dial it down, since he is stealing shots from Fox/Banes/Hali/Holmes when he starts and jacks up without restrait.
I think Bagley has made a case for starting when Barnes is out. Metu's shoot first mentality might be better suited off the bench, as long as Buddy gets his.
Once everyone returns, I would like to see a starting lineup of Holmes/Barnes/King/Hali/Fox, and see how they roll.
While I appreciate his 11 rebounds in 23 minutes on a day we got outrebounded 68-49 (yikes!), he can't be taking 11 shots in that time, particularly when he's shooting 2-11. And it's not just this game. He comes in with a gunner's mentality. I wanted Moe to be a bit more aggressive (with improved efficiency hopefully), but Metu needs to really dial it down, since he is stealing shots from Fox/Banes/Hali/Holmes when he starts and jacks up without restrait.
I think Bagley has made a case for starting when Barnes is out. Metu's shoot first mentality might be better suited off the bench, as long as Buddy gets his.
Once everyone returns, I would like to see a starting lineup of Holmes/Barnes/King/Hali/Fox, and see how they roll.
Yeah, I wonder if it's a confidence thing now that defenders are closing in on him faster and he doesn't think he'll shoot the same rate or something? But Hali is far and away the 2nd best shooter on the team behind Buddy and on a team with a Fox/Holmes (non/inconsistent spacers), he needs to be launching these open shots and not trying to create all the time. The irony is that once he starts launching a bit, it'll give him a more clear path to the rim where he can create easy shots.
We don't need him launching 10 3's a game like Buddy, but he should pretty consistently be in the 6- 8 range every game. T. Davis for gods sakes, who's played 450 less minutes, only has 24 less 3's taken Hali. Hali is 5th on total 3PA on the team. He's got to be more selfish and take on that spacer role if the starting lineup wants to remain successful
We don't need him launching 10 3's a game like Buddy, but he should pretty consistently be in the 6- 8 range every game. T. Davis for gods sakes, who's played 450 less minutes, only has 24 less 3's taken Hali. Hali is 5th on total 3PA on the team. He's got to be more selfish and take on that spacer role if the starting lineup wants to remain successful
I don't think this game had anything to do with scheme. Ninety-nine percent of the time it's about defensive effort. The "tell" for me at the beginning of every game is always Fox. He's the best player, and as the best player's defensive effort goes, so goes the team. This game was no different. Fox was nonexistent on defense from the start, just pretending. (He's done this also in prior games). Early in the game he was switched on Brooks and his defense was almost clownish, putting up no resistance whatsoever. Brooks waltzed in for a layup. What is up with that? No respect for Brooks? Laziness? No will to win? It's really mystifying that a player of his caliber would be so cavalier about playing the game. In my opinion, this endemic inconsistency will continue with this team as long as we see this up and down defensive effort from Fox. Either Fox has to change his attitude, or we need to find another "best" player to take his place.
He was already fairly developed and not a super young player/raw player to begin with. I think the one thing that he can and needs to work on is more mass, and that will go a long way. He did a bit this offseason but you can see teams are able to push him around still. Him taking open shots is something that can change, him adapting to being a lead on ball attack player that doesn't struggle against pressure one on one or when double teamed is something that will be very hard and probably not smart to change at this point. Especially if it means wiping away a lot of his positive approaches to his game as a team player because for him he's still usually making the smart play. The problem is the offense is starting with him and teams are getting the Kings to waste clock on a lot of those possessions. So far the best aspects of Mitchell and Haliburton are their role player tendencies which are likely ingrained at this point. Mitchell has more of a scorers mentality but he's still more of a player that will defer when defense orient themselves his way.
I didn't watch a lot of the Celtics last season but I saw highlights where TT looked really positive. Then I heard blurbs about his pick and roll defense being the reason he wasn't so desired. I can see why. He was somewhat bad in Cleveland but holy cow, his pnr defense combined with the Kings drop coverage is some of the worst we've seen recently.
All great points. I've noticed this as well. Last year, I really thought he had that killer instinct, will to win type attitude. This year it's completely different. Yesterday when they got down like 11 really early, I saw him laughing with one of the Memphis players. I feel like true competitors would never do that in that moment. They'd be pissed at their horrible start and be focused.
He's really looking like he's going through the motions, collecting his money now. I just feel like something is off....maybe it's personal? More likely, he's realized he's in "basketball hell" and he's depressed!
He's really looking like he's going through the motions, collecting his money now. I just feel like something is off....maybe it's personal? More likely, he's realized he's in "basketball hell" and he's depressed!
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