2021 NBA Draft Superthread

Who do you think the Kings end up drafting in tonight?

  • Wagner

    Votes: 24 39.3%
  • Sengun

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • Moody

    Votes: 12 19.7%
  • Johnson

    Votes: 2 3.3%
  • Kuminga

    Votes: 3 4.9%
  • They’ll end up trading the pick.

    Votes: 8 13.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 5 8.2%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
My twitter timeline right now is 95% memes about how awful the Lakers spacing will be next year and 5% dudes talking about the cap implications of the Cavs trading for Ricky Rubio
 
The thing is we can't panic about the Lakers deal falling through and counter by biting on the first offer we get.
Well, Buddy will probably help with that at some point so it might be wise to send him east and get what you can before you are in a Simmons/Sixers scenario. The issue that hasn't seemed to be alleviated since Vlades departure is open business when it comes to players on the block. I will give him credit on the Cuz trade, he didn't let that fester or spill out everywhere and allow it to drag on. It was a quick chop.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
No, I'm saying the history of ANY Kings big based around skill and that didn't totally fit didn't end well dating back to Spencer Hawes. The coaching thing is different but as of now it seems Fox WANTS Luke so you have to do what you have to do. Luke is a good guy at least. Karl wasn't F'n around with anyone at that point.
Okay, I can understand that but I've never thought decisions from more than a decade back with a completely different ownership, management, coach etc have any impact on the present. It's like when before a game they show the historical record between two teams spanning 60 years or more. It's interesting but it has no bearing on the game about to be played.

And Hawes and Cousins are pretty much the only "skill-based bigs" the Kings have drafted since 2007. The other bigs they took (only counting guys who ever played in Sacramento) are Jason Thompson, Hassan Whiteside, Thomas Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein, Georgios Papagiannis, Harry Giles, and Marvin Bagley. I wouldn't consider any of them bigs based around skill. Giles is probably the closest. Most of them I'd call raw and full of potential, even if most of them never lived up to that potential.

And none of them would even enter my mind in terms of drafting or not drafting Sengun. That'd be like passing on Haliburton last year because Tyreke Evans didn't work out as a big ballhandling guard for the Kings. He's not at all similar to Hali just like none of these guys are similar to Sengun. The closest is Cousins who was about the same height but a lot heavier, had a 7'5" wingspan (not sure what Sengun's is but he doesn't appear to have plus length so maybe 7 foot?) and only fell to 5 due to red flags/attitude concerns which turned out to be justified.

The Kings have a horrendous track record for lottery picks, but that doesn't mean anything as far as today's draft goes. And regardless of who they take tonight I hope what started with Haliburton continues and they slowly change the narrative.
 
Bobby Gerould on KHTK saying Jalen Suggs is a killer for making big shots in the tourney. LOLZZZZZZZ. Dude banked a three and it went in. Total Effing Luck.
 
No 22, no deal. I’m with him on that.

Doesn’t mean I’m happy Budward is still around though. Lmao
For sure, no 22, no deal.

Edit: And I'm totally cool with Buddy being on the roster on opening day and knowing the Kings tried to punt his ass. Dude deserves the pyschological trauma.
 
So weird that they keep using that shot to hype him up when it was clearly a prayer that got answered. Plenty of legit highlights for Suggs last season

Yea. Like, really? Dude clearly shot a three that went horribly wrong. So wrong that it became a prayer and they're citing that as evidence of his killer-ness.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
I was iffy on the Laker deal even if it included #22.

But Westbrook to LA may be the best thing to happen. Buddy was going to be a legit piece playing off LeBron and AD. And he wouldn't completely kill their caproom. But Westbrook, LeBron and AD with bargain basement signings to fill out the roster? They may struggle to be contenders if they can all stay healthy for the season with no spacing and no depth.
 
Okay, I can understand that but I've never thought decisions from more than a decade back with a completely different ownership, management, coach etc have any impact on the present. It's like when before a game they show the historical record between two teams spanning 60 years or more. It's interesting but it has no bearing on the game about to be played.

And Hawes and Cousins are pretty much the only "skill-based bigs" the Kings have drafted since 2007. The other bigs they took (only counting guys who ever played in Sacramento) are Jason Thompson, Hassan Whiteside, Thomas Robinson, Willie Cauley-Stein, Georgios Papagiannis, Harry Giles, and Marvin Bagley. I wouldn't consider any of them bigs based around skill. Giles is probably the closest. Most of them I'd call raw and full of potential, even if most of them never lived up to that potential.

And none of them would even enter my mind in terms of drafting or not drafting Sengun. That'd be like passing on Haliburton last year because Tyreke Evans didn't work out as a big ballhandling guard for the Kings. He's not at all similar to Hali just like none of these guys are similar to Sengun. The closest is Cousins who was about the same height but a lot heavier, had a 7'5" wingspan (not sure what Sengun's is but he doesn't appear to have plus length so maybe 7 foot?) and only fell to 5 due to red flags/attitude concerns which turned out to be justified.

The Kings have a horrendous track record for lottery picks, but that doesn't mean anything as far as today's draft goes. And regardless of who they take tonight I hope what started with Haliburton continues and they slowly change the narrative.
It's continuing now with Bagley though. If not then sure, but it still is apparently an ongoing curse. And they were still all bigs based around the potential to get you production. None were defensive specialists, none were freak athletes outside of Robinson, who really wasn't and was still undersized. He was a 20 and 10 type, nothing more.