Bagley.
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Have any conspiracy theorists thrown out the idea that the Bagley camp is hyping up the injury to get him out of this franchise yet? Bagley Sr. does seem like that much of a jerk.
May explain why there's not been a concrete diagnosis on the foot thing. Although I'm leaning towards the non-transparency that's become this FO's MO.
...Or are we not allowed to bandy conspiracy theories on this forum anymore? Because I'm making this post with a big giant shaker full of big giant grains of salt. I just miss the days of whacky whimsy around here, it really helped pass the time between one draft lotto to the next.
May explain why there's not been a concrete diagnosis on the foot thing. Although I'm leaning towards the non-transparency that's become this FO's MO.
...Or are we not allowed to bandy conspiracy theories on this forum anymore? Because I'm making this post with a big giant shaker full of big giant grains of salt. I just miss the days of whacky whimsy around here, it really helped pass the time between one draft lotto to the next.
Blaming the fans is absolutely ridiculous. We can’t have nice things because we consistently have poor ownership that makes poor hiring decisions and rewards ineptitude.
The fans aren’t involved with the kings poor draft history. The fans haven’t hired the coaches, or managed the salary cap, the fans don’t run a coaching carousel. The fans certainly didn’t reward Vlades poor decision making with a contract extension.
The fans are rightfully upset. Attendance continues to drop. The kings shouldn’t be rewarded for how poorly this franchise is run, and fans certainly shouldn’t be labeled as toxic for calling a spade a spade.
Some fans have taking things too far, but we’re talking about a very small minority here that aren’t representative of the general populace of fans. It’s completely unfair and absolves the actual responsible parties of guilt.
The fans aren’t involved with the kings poor draft history. The fans haven’t hired the coaches, or managed the salary cap, the fans don’t run a coaching carousel. The fans certainly didn’t reward Vlades poor decision making with a contract extension.
The fans are rightfully upset. Attendance continues to drop. The kings shouldn’t be rewarded for how poorly this franchise is run, and fans certainly shouldn’t be labeled as toxic for calling a spade a spade.
Some fans have taking things too far, but we’re talking about a very small minority here that aren’t representative of the general populace of fans. It’s completely unfair and absolves the actual responsible parties of guilt.
Come on, now, that’s not fair. Per Amick, Vivek is fixing to fire Vlade before the season even ends for the express purpose of Vlade drafting Bagley. Bagley getting traded in the summer would have nothing to do with the fans. Listen to Amick, Vivek is a laughingstock at any NBA gathering. His peers think he’s a joke. That’s what he’s embarrassed about.
Amick sounded like he’s already pivoting towards covering the GM search.
Amick sounded like he’s already pivoting towards covering the GM search.
We can’t have nice things because we have a bad GM, a clueless owner and an organization that is underwhelming in many aspects. The proof is in the pudding with our current streak of non-playoff seasons.
There are few franchises with such a loyal, forgiving fanbase and such a team-friendly unaggressive media coverage.
The way a small group of so-called fans attacked Bagley personally is unacceptable. But it is not representative of this fanbase and a sign of the times, unfortunately. But to think that this would not happen elsewhere is wrong. If Bagley can’t handle such stuff here, he won’t be able to handle it anywhere.
Blaming negative effects of the continued dysfunction by this franchise on the fanbase is asinine, IMO.
There are few franchises with such a loyal, forgiving fanbase and such a team-friendly unaggressive media coverage.
The way a small group of so-called fans attacked Bagley personally is unacceptable. But it is not representative of this fanbase and a sign of the times, unfortunately. But to think that this would not happen elsewhere is wrong. If Bagley can’t handle such stuff here, he won’t be able to handle it anywhere.
Blaming negative effects of the continued dysfunction by this franchise on the fanbase is asinine, IMO.
He shouldn't.
But in today's world, and especially the social media world, it happens unfortunately and it is not something that will go away soon, I fear.
That means that it is a fact that Bagley has to deal with, just like every other famous sportspersons and other celebrities. If he can't, that is likely a problem for him and every franchise he will be part of.
But in today's world, and especially the social media world, it happens unfortunately and it is not something that will go away soon, I fear.
That means that it is a fact that Bagley has to deal with, just like every other famous sportspersons and other celebrities. If he can't, that is likely a problem for him and every franchise he will be part of.
I hear the argument that this fanbase is easier on players than others and players should and need to be able to handle criticism and hate, even when unwarranted, because everyone does it. The fanbase and how they treat their players has always been a source of pride with this franchise. That is literally the selling point for this team around the league.
We love when players like HG say how great the fans are. Beam with pride. So it really is disappointing when fans turn on a player who has not said a bad word about the fans and is suffering through some injuries. To say the player deserves it due to lack of improvement, when he hasn't played this season is not a good look, no matter how you slice it. Neither is "everyone does it" because I'm not sure it's true to that extent. But more importantly, it is incongruous to love when players and their families speak about how great the Kings fans are, like with HG and Holmes, and to also say players should be unaffected by negative fan talk.
We love when players like HG say how great the fans are. Beam with pride. So it really is disappointing when fans turn on a player who has not said a bad word about the fans and is suffering through some injuries. To say the player deserves it due to lack of improvement, when he hasn't played this season is not a good look, no matter how you slice it. Neither is "everyone does it" because I'm not sure it's true to that extent. But more importantly, it is incongruous to love when players and their families speak about how great the Kings fans are, like with HG and Holmes, and to also say players should be unaffected by negative fan talk.
Yes, it is a source of pride. And yes it is THE selling point, because we do not have other selling points. And that is a problem. As much as it is - and should be - a point of pride, it is likely very low on the list of reasons for players to want to come here and stay here. Being a good run franchise, being a perennial contender., having a reputation for developing players and being able to offer monetary incentives (not just by overpaying but also local advertising income - be a Pizza Guy!) are things which are much more important. Especially in today's game, where loyalty to a team has become loyalty to the NBA as Parker pointed out. He is not wrong and I don't have an issue with that. But it does show that a loyal fanbase means very little on the grander scale of things. And this franchise is more or less only good at overpaying for underperforming players.
So for me, this is shifting the discussion from what is really the problem (horrible FO) to a non sequitur (the fans are chasing players away) It is is disingenuous and reeks of Stockholm Syndrome, pardon me saying.
Who around here (or anywhere else) says that he deserves it? Serious question.
I think there is a very small and focal group on social media that say this awful stuff to Bagley (and maybe others) and I don't even know if they are real fans or just people venting their frustration of life.
So for me, this is shifting the discussion from what is really the problem (horrible FO) to a non sequitur (the fans are chasing players away) It is is disingenuous and reeks of Stockholm Syndrome, pardon me saying.
Who around here (or anywhere else) says that he deserves it? Serious question.
I think there is a very small and focal group on social media that say this awful stuff to Bagley (and maybe others) and I don't even know if they are real fans or just people venting their frustration of life.
