2018 Draft - the morning after (split)
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Yeah, Zbo's starting Day 1.
Bagley may have been #3 on my board, but after Divac's comments yesterday on what he plans to do with this team and how Joerger plans to coach next year, I think we're in for a disaster.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them not move a big at all, Bagley play 15 mpg behind Zbo, and Skal and Giles not be in the rotation at all.
Bagley may have been #3 on my board, but after Divac's comments yesterday on what he plans to do with this team and how Joerger plans to coach next year, I think we're in for a disaster.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them not move a big at all, Bagley play 15 mpg behind Zbo, and Skal and Giles not be in the rotation at all.
I'm actually almost just as disappointed that we had Bates-Diop drop to us in the 2nd and we traded the pick away. The two future 2nd round picks that we got in return probably won't hold the value that Bates-Diop holds in this draft. This guy was mocked in the late teens, early 20s this whole time. Obviously he fell because some teams didn't like him as much as other guys but it wouldn't have hurt to take a flyer on the kid. Maybe the Kings just didn't want to add yet another super young player to the fray. I think it was a bit of a mistake.
Your basing your opinion on "feelings" and "vibes" What about facts, evidence and reason? Jerry Reynolds said Bagley reminds him of young KG with his mobility and explosiveness around the rim. David Robinson was effusive, saying he reminds him of a young Duncan with his poise. Most young bigs rush down low. Bagley refuse to be sped up. Coach K said Bagley is the best big he has had in 38 years. This is more significant than your "vibes".
I don't know about Dallas and being a great fit for Doncic. They just drafted a ball dominant Alpha Point Guard last year in Dennis Smith and he has already staked his territory.
I can't see Dennis Smith sharing the ball that easily. He seems like a player that would have an issue with sharing the ball, much more than I think Fox would have.
I can't see Dennis Smith sharing the ball that easily. He seems like a player that would have an issue with sharing the ball, much more than I think Fox would have.
Doncic is the gamble pick...with higher risk and reward imo. I would've picked Doncic - anyway. Bagley looks to be a good player, but I wonder about his potential. That's my opinion from watching him in the tourney. Vlade went for a good player with less potential imo - that's being safe. I also would've gone with JJJ over Bagley who looked to have more potential using both hands and a better long range shot. Bagley was 4th or 5th in my book.
I dont know about great potential. FTs are a red flag - and average passing if that. He looked lackadaisical when the Blue Devils needed leadership against Syracuse and Kansas. I don't think he's a leader. If the Kings have a lights out shooter or an alpha player already, I think it would certainly help Bagley, and he would thrive more. He'll probably do respectably I think to start. He looks like he'll help the offense perhaps at a defensive cost imo. He better work on his FTs and his defense - no excuse not to shoot 75% and improve on those effort areas. In that respect he has an advantage.
It wouldn't be Doncic I'm worried about.
It would be Dennis Smith willingness to share ball handling duties. Doncic can play off the ball, but he is much more effective bring the ball up court and setting the offense with his court vision. I don't think Dennis Smith would give that up very willingly. Smith is much more ball dominant than Fox.
It would be Dennis Smith willingness to share ball handling duties. Doncic can play off the ball, but he is much more effective bring the ball up court and setting the offense with his court vision. I don't think Dennis Smith would give that up very willingly. Smith is much more ball dominant than Fox.
To me, from the eye test, I think his ceiling could be The Greek Freak (since we are getting words that Vlade thinks he can play 3-5), and at worst he'd be a more athletic Deandre Jordan. Whereas Doncic's ceiling could be a less athletic Lebron, at worst he could be Ricky Rubio with a hairy trigger.
Just my opinion and I am totally open to being wrong.
Just my opinion and I am totally open to being wrong.
Those who are bummed about not getting Doncic, go find an interview with Coach K where he talks about Bagley. Highest praise he could possibly give to Bagley. Thinks he’s going to one of the best during his era. And of course, those who are salty will say he is just talking up his own guy and that is what they all do. Not true on that front, they don’t go out on a limb for one guy and speak a false narrative. Doing so trashes his credibility and ruins it for the next player.
My 1a was Doncic, Bagley was 1b. Can’t wait to see Bagley play.
My 1a was Doncic, Bagley was 1b. Can’t wait to see Bagley play.
So, i was in a pretty bad mood yesterday. Listened to Grant all the way to the Arena. It was a nightmare getting in there. Didn't even get food because the lines were insanely long and not moving. I left after about the 4th or 5th pick.
I wanted Doncic. I have NOTHING against Bagley, I hope he's the best player in the draft class. I really do. He's exciting. I think my frustration is I don't believe that this front office understands how basketball is played since the rule changes have gone into effect. We have 6 bigs. All of who should play NBA minutes. 2 of which we wont trade and 4 of whom probably dont have great trade value.
I was really hoping we would be able to swing WCS, 37 and ?? for 12-14 pick a grab porter. I'm probably more upset that didn't happen than anything that actually did happen. Especially since we were tied to those picks pre-draft.
We need to make some moves and I don't know that they are able to be made.
I wanted Doncic. I have NOTHING against Bagley, I hope he's the best player in the draft class. I really do. He's exciting. I think my frustration is I don't believe that this front office understands how basketball is played since the rule changes have gone into effect. We have 6 bigs. All of who should play NBA minutes. 2 of which we wont trade and 4 of whom probably dont have great trade value.
I was really hoping we would be able to swing WCS, 37 and ?? for 12-14 pick a grab porter. I'm probably more upset that didn't happen than anything that actually did happen. Especially since we were tied to those picks pre-draft.
We need to make some moves and I don't know that they are able to be made.
I think Sacramento will embrace Marvin Bagley because Marvin Bagley embraced Sacramento!
I think Sacramento Kings fans just want to be Loved!
Here to hoping Bagley winds up the best player from this draft!
I think Sacramento Kings fans just want to be Loved!
Here to hoping Bagley winds up the best player from this draft!
Let's see we got the second pick in the draft and at the worst we got the consensus third best player in this draft.
Giles is ready to play, He was the best high school player in the country,
Bogi looked great last year
Hield seems like he works hard and could be even more improved this year
Everyone wanted Fox and now he has one year under his belt
Mason was a favorite and he has one more year of experience
Skal is still young and improving
Justin showed some flashes for his first year
That is 8 young players with lots of talent and potential
Add in a mix of vets like Kosta, Shumpert, Maybe Temple
a big in Zbo who can show the kids some tricks and lots of cap space
And yet a lot of you act like you lost a close friend yesterday.
The glass is half full not half empty
I personally cannot wait for the season to start
Giles is ready to play, He was the best high school player in the country,
Bogi looked great last year
Hield seems like he works hard and could be even more improved this year
Everyone wanted Fox and now he has one year under his belt
Mason was a favorite and he has one more year of experience
Skal is still young and improving
Justin showed some flashes for his first year
That is 8 young players with lots of talent and potential
Add in a mix of vets like Kosta, Shumpert, Maybe Temple
a big in Zbo who can show the kids some tricks and lots of cap space
And yet a lot of you act like you lost a close friend yesterday.
The glass is half full not half empty
I personally cannot wait for the season to start
Kings fans wishes doesn't effect what management wants and eventually does.
Sacramento loved DMC and DMC loved Sacramento and the FO traded him.
The Kings fans overwhelmingly wanted Doncic, but that didn't happen.
The fans affection for a player has little to do with what the FO chooses to do.
But it is always a good sign when a player and city have a bond.
Sacramento loved DMC and DMC loved Sacramento and the FO traded him.
The Kings fans overwhelmingly wanted Doncic, but that didn't happen.
The fans affection for a player has little to do with what the FO chooses to do.
But it is always a good sign when a player and city have a bond.
I've been replying to you ockingsfan, but I'm not aiming to pick on you. You're a good starting point.
I am speaking about the bare minimum expectations Kings fans have and the way the organization routinely abuses those low expectations. The Kings routinely lie to the fans. They say things that are ridiculous and expect the fans and press just to nod along. It's the only constant variable over the years of losing.
I am speaking about the bare minimum expectations Kings fans have and the way the organization routinely abuses those low expectations. The Kings routinely lie to the fans. They say things that are ridiculous and expect the fans and press just to nod along. It's the only constant variable over the years of losing.