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Again I would start Ayton and Stein - Ayton focus for offense, Stein can roam more on defense. Skal although very skilled offensively, his defense is pedestrian. Is Giles ever gonna play - Have my doubts.
Watching Doncic clips he seems to have a propensity to shoot Jason Williams 3-points - 30 footers ....hmmm. He does dribble exceptionally well for his size.
Watching Doncic clips he seems to have a propensity to shoot Jason Williams 3-points - 30 footers ....hmmm. He does dribble exceptionally well for his size.
You guys are absolutely nuts who don't want Doncic. That kid is the best wing prospect in at least a decade and Ayton is the best bigman prospect since Greg Oden, who would have been an incredible player if his knees weren't busted. This is the easiest slam dunk decision in the whole draft. If Doncic goes #1 we get Ayton. If Ayton goes #1 we get Doncic. Either way I'm sprinting to the podium with that pick. You can mess around trying to find the next Donovan Mitchell if you want but I'm taking the 6'8" teenager who is out there right now dominating grown men like the second coming of Pistol Pete or the monster 7 footer who's built life a Greek God and can shoot, handle the ball, and pull-up and shoot fadeaways like a guard. This is the easiest draft position ever. Phoenix is literally going to make our decision for us and I'm cool with that because I love both of these guys. Don't overcomplicate things. This is the best possible outcome for us. Phoenix gets all the pressure of history on their shoulders and we get a franchise changing talent no matter what.
http://arizonasports.com/story/1528...ka-doncic-deandre-ayton-2018-nba-draft-maybe/
“I’m not afraid to throw my opinion over there and to have an opinion. That’s my job,” he added. “I’ve got to be very cautious to have a strong opinion to demand. I’m not a guy who demands because if I don’t have a complete picture of the whole draft, it’s hard for me to give my voice and force for us to take Luka, even though he’s a diamond, he’s (a) really special kid. We have to compare Luka with other guys and see what’s best for the team.” (Kokoskov)
“I’m not afraid to throw my opinion over there and to have an opinion. That’s my job,” he added. “I’ve got to be very cautious to have a strong opinion to demand. I’m not a guy who demands because if I don’t have a complete picture of the whole draft, it’s hard for me to give my voice and force for us to take Luka, even though he’s a diamond, he’s (a) really special kid. We have to compare Luka with other guys and see what’s best for the team.” (Kokoskov)
Let's say you're right. Trading down for an asset (either a pick next season or a current player) while still getting a player you covet within the top 10 isn't a bad thing at all.
It comes down to what you value more Ayton or Doncic versus a player in the 4-10 range and whatever other asset(s) you could net in return.
It comes down to what you value more Ayton or Doncic versus a player in the 4-10 range and whatever other asset(s) you could net in return.
Whichever guy we get we get a player who can define the teams play style moving forward. We draft Doncic? We all of a sudden have three very good playmakers in Doncic, Bogi, Fox, team can play euro sytle system based on ball screens, passing and movement. Draft Ayton? Team gets a physically dominant big man with exceptional skill to go with it. Bogi/Buddy will get tons of easy looks from the gravity Ayton would command. The Kings were dealt the easiest job in the 2018 draft. Now Vlade and co. get to work on planning how the roster will look like in the Fall.
As a pure prospect? Yes.
His athletic peripherals are insane (higher vertical than 99.9% of the guards in the league). He's like the second coming of David Robinson except in a modern NBA where bigs are allowed to play on the perimeter more. Aside from some defensive concerns (and we have the defensive coach who turned Marc Gasol into one of the best defenders in the league running the team), he's about as much of a sure thing as they come.
His athletic peripherals are insane (higher vertical than 99.9% of the guards in the league). He's like the second coming of David Robinson except in a modern NBA where bigs are allowed to play on the perimeter more. Aside from some defensive concerns (and we have the defensive coach who turned Marc Gasol into one of the best defenders in the league running the team), he's about as much of a sure thing as they come.
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It's like saying "What do you value more- the chance to get Kevin Durant or the chance to draft Brook Lopez next year and a vet?"
The 1-2 in this draft is perhaps the strongest since the Oden-Durant-Horford draft (complete with game changing big/game changing wing/future HOFer glue big parallels) except this time the big man is even more of a freak than the last time and not made of glass.
The 1-2 in this draft is perhaps the strongest since the Oden-Durant-Horford draft (complete with game changing big/game changing wing/future HOFer glue big parallels) except this time the big man is even more of a freak than the last time and not made of glass.
Well, if you feel that strongly about Ayton and/or Doncic then I certainly understand your POV.
I'm not necessarily saying I disagree with you. However, having said that, I think it's hyperbole at this point to compare either of them to a Kevin Durant. Furthermore, neither you or I know whether or not the player they'd get at 4 - 10 (e.g. Jaren Jackson) would be an equally impactful player. He very well could be.
This draft is rich with talent to the point that a team like the Kings could really parlay a lot out of their #2 pick. That's all I'm saying.
But if Vlade and the rest of the front office believe like you do that Ayton and/or Doncic will be a franchise level player like a Kevin Durant, then by all means they should take that player. No argument from me there.
I'm not necessarily saying I disagree with you. However, having said that, I think it's hyperbole at this point to compare either of them to a Kevin Durant. Furthermore, neither you or I know whether or not the player they'd get at 4 - 10 (e.g. Jaren Jackson) would be an equally impactful player. He very well could be.
This draft is rich with talent to the point that a team like the Kings could really parlay a lot out of their #2 pick. That's all I'm saying.
But if Vlade and the rest of the front office believe like you do that Ayton and/or Doncic will be a franchise level player like a Kevin Durant, then by all means they should take that player. No argument from me there.
