Regarding the game threads, I think you are both right.
The fanbase and this board are rightfully in poor shape. There are a sliver of die hards fans left that will line up behind whatever this team rolls out. Most fans are extremely lukewarm, local team, enjoy going to or watching games, ect. There is nothing wrong with being a long time fan or city resident that wants the product to be better, and think it's reasonable to say this team continues to suck / be poorly run / this crap has gone on much longer than it should have, because most of the people still talking about the Kings fail to do so objectively or looking at the big picture.
The game threads are a prefect example. Back in early December, the Kings rode the vets to some games they would otherwise not win. Some of us back then said, we're going to regret this in April and then down the road. We were told by many: ugh you are the worst, can't we just enjoy this Cavs win; look, they are going to bottom out yet again in the spring; odds still favor we pick super high; so you aren't welcome in the game threads.
It's a huge cherry pick by the moderators. The majority of the posts here are often outlandish predictions about draft picks or trades that will never come to fruition. Many of them are made solely so someone can claim 5 years later, "I was right about player X." Over half the posts are "See, I have / had the better long term view." While the majority of the posts are about the future / long term and events that may not come to pass, that was verboten from the game threads for four months for one and only one aspect. If you wanted to make reference to Giles magic knees during a game thread that was fine. If you wanted to talk about the win total, math, or probabilities going forward, you could only talk about the game at hand. To many this is like asking who was having a better game between WCS and Skal, but if WCS had physically caught on fire. It was not permissible to say, "I think Willie is playing better tonight, but we should really think about getting out a fire extinguisher or blanket and putting the flames out." To which VF and others shouted, hey cut that out. I asked who is having a better game. Take that should we let players burn themselves to the ground conversation somewhere else.
The reaction of the fanbase a decade running has often been
When things turn bad, many and VF in particular are essentially
Often the discourse is unreasonable and not objective. Moreover, it's often self defeating. It's not just that folks are standing on a busted dock with few resources to fix it, looking out at a squal and blissfully saying "My ship is about to come in" Since the Cousins trade, the moderators have made choices that are bad for the product / views here. As recently as a couple of seasons ago, the team sucked but there were robust game threads and long next day grade / postgame threads. The postgame threads died because Brick, a die hard of all die hards finally had enough of the crap. At this point, the game threads are just a few pages often comprised mostly of just a handful of posters throwing out two cheering sentences or somebody else's tweet. Compared to 15, 8, even 3 years ago, the game to game analysis here has essentially died on the vine.
So I agree, it's dumb and short sighted.
On the other hand, it's their site and it's been the rule for months. At some point, it's Chinatown Jake and not worth picking a fight during game 82.
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